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club / ball synergy...does it still exist?


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In my teens, I had a short-lived interest in firearms.

As I use humane, catch-and-release mousetraps,

you may safely assume that I didn't hunt. (No judgments, here.)

 

I did like to shoot however.

 

Around that time, two cartridges similar to the M16 round

 

(5.56 mm NATO military full jacketed  /  Remington .223 hunting hollow point)

 

were introduced for "varmint" hunting,

 

the rimmed .225 Winchester and the rimless.224 Weatherby Magnum. 

 

We discovered that if one took the factory bullet, factory primer, and factory powder from the Winchester round,

 

and loaded it into the Weatherby brass cartridge,

 

then that handload surpassed both original factory rounds in machine rest accuracy. We had no gear to measure velocity and energy, but group size was definitely and obviously reduced.

 

The .224 Weatherby was an expensive and non-ubiquitous rifle, but if you had one as I did, this is the round that you wanted to shoot in it.

 

I discovered a similar  thing with golf balls and golf clubs later on.

Golf clubs of the era definitely had preferred ammunition.

 

My Lynx Predator woods, related predecessor to the metalwood,  

and Spalding Executive irons / wedges,

absolutely LOVED the high compression Top Flite ball.

 

NOTHING else performed as well with them.

 

I don't hear anything like that in discussions of modern equipment. it seems that such club/ball synergies simply don't exist anymore, or else linksters are just not talking about them.

 

Anybody know of any?

 

 

 

 

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Absolutely. Club design has changed because of the ball

In my :mizuno-small: BR-D4 Stand Bag

:ping-small: G410 LST 9* VA Nemesys 65X
:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X
:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X
:mizuno-small: MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-PW Oban CT 115 X(-)
:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 50F - 54S - 59D
:EVNROLL: ER1v
:titelist-small: ProV1
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Interesting - I never found that to be the case in the old days nor do I really recall hearing it but I was never attracted to clubs like the Predator or Executive.

 

In regards to today I remain stunned that OEMs haven't started to claim or even intentionally make balls that “fit” their clubs. I suppose they feel it's not worth the risk.

 

 

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Taylor Made Sim2  10.5 (Opened 1 click) Ventus Blue 5  R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

Edison Wedges 54 and 59 KBS Tour Graphite 80's

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Tour Exotics 3 wood is in the bag because we are allowed 14 clubs.  It's a great club for pulling balls out of the water or from bushes - you never want to put your hand into anything in Florida unless you are absolutely certain that it's safe.  There are rare wind conditions when I might hit it off the tee on a few holes that I play.  

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Interesting - I never found that to be the case in the old days nor do I really recall hearing it but I was never attracted to clubs like the Predator or Executive.

 

In regards to today I remain stunned that OEMs haven't started to claim or even intentionally make balls that “fit” their clubs. I suppose they feel it's not worth the risk.

 

 

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Some companies have talked about getting into the ball business but smarter heads prevail when they look at market share and it's not a cost effective venture. With only a handful of larger companies not having a ball and their current market share in clubs being around the 5 spot or worse it might be a hard sell to get ball for their clubs

Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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Interesting - I never found that to be the case in the old days nor do I really recall hearing it but I was never attracted to clubs like the Predator or Executive.

 

In regards to today I remain stunned that OEMs haven't started to claim or even intentionally make balls that “fit” their clubs. I suppose they feel it's not worth the risk.

 

 

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It would depend on their market share. Someone like Bridgestone, who has a much larger market share in balls would be making a terrible desicion, they would alienate the people who play their ball with X clubs.

 

But for someone like Taylormade, who had a much larger share in the club market than ball market, coming out with a ball that "fits" their clubs best, could be a great move. It would get players who love their TM clubs to play their ball.

 

This being said, it should be an addition to a lineup not a full lineup change. We have the best ball for those of you who play our clubs, and then an offering for those of you who don't.

Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff

Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff

Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock

 

 

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