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New Iron set purchase insight: Late Season sales VS Waiting till next season.

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I've been wanting too upgrade my irons all Summer, but haven't quite found what I'm looking for yet. Im on the fence between upgrading my irons. Do I take advantage of last seasons irons being marked down quite a bit at this point (2016-2017 clubs), or would I benefit more from waiting until the start of next season when this years models (2018) will be marked down in similar fashion. I have no problem purchasing older clubs or past generations that are sill new. I'm not entering tournaments every weekend so there's no reason too always have the “newest tech”. With that being said, I personally feel like this was a year where iron innovation and advancement was impressive across the board. Which makes me wonder if the performance gains/advancements/etc in 2018 were significant enough for me to hold off on new irons until Next season when they're much cheaper and I have a full summer to utilize them. If the gains were minimal between a 2016-2017 club compared to a 2018, Rhere wouldn't be as much reason to wait till 2019 to upgrade my irons :) . This question may confuse many, in which I apologize. Hopefully someone out there can shed some light on this mental battle for me. Any positive insight on this topic would be appreciated!

 

 

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You asked so I'll respond.

 

You're not going to be missing or giving up anything (except money) by purchasing a set of irons that are 1-2-3 years old. Any gains that you're hoping for whether that be distance or forgiveness has been there for years. Weren't the 2016 irons by XX the most accurate, longest, most forgiving ever made? They say that every year and with each new release. Nobody buys the hype these companies put out year after year. Are the newest irons this year better than last year? Absolutely..... according to XX company.

Here's what's important. Get yourself fit for your irons. That's where the magic comes alive. And you can do that with a set of 2016 irons just as easily as 2018 or 2019 irons. And... you'll save a ton of money.

Good luck.

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Don't expect irons released this year to drop in price next year. Most OEM are holding to a minimum 18 month life cycle before dropping any price.

 

The old , TaylorMade will come out with a new club in 6 months and this will become half price, hasn't existed for a couple years now.

 

And frankly it was never a 1/2 price drop anyway. Always more like 25 to 30 percent.

 

The internet has been known to exaggerate greatly.

 

 

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You never know which advance will be the one that pops for your swing. What is always in fashion is a good swing and familiarity with equipment that fits as best as possible.

 

I would think the buy at the end is f the season strategy gives the opportunity to practice some with the new stuff now and in the Spring.

 

 

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I'm a firm believer in taking advantage of the used club market. Most golfers believe it's the arrow and not the Indian so the market is full of clubs from disappointed lost souls. I always recommend the gold digest hot club list. You can find those list online dating back ten years. If you go back to 2014 then work your way up to 2018 you'll find some great sets at a fraction of today's pricing.

 

I bought a set of Ping i25s 4-PW in unbelievable shape for $125. I replaced the grips so all in $200 for a set originally sold for over $700.

 

 

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I'm a firm believer in taking advantage of the used club market. Most golfers believe it's the arrow and not the Indian so the market is full of clubs from disappointed lost souls. I always recommend the gold digest hot club list. You can find those list online dating back ten years. If you go back to 2014 then work your way up to 2018 you'll find some great sets at a fraction of today's pricing.

 

I bought a set of Ping i25s 4-PW in unbelievable shape for $125. I replaced the grips so all in $200 for a set originally sold for over $700.

 

 

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Nothing wrong with weighing all options but I think... at least from members (including me) in this forum the Golf Digest Hot List list is not exactly an unbiased opinion. I'd take MGS testing and recommendations over any others.

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Nothing wrong with weighing all options but I think... at least from members (including me) in this forum the Golf Digest Hot List list is not exactly an unbiased opinion. I'd take MGS testing and recommendations over any others.

Lots of sources of information out there, just recommended one which is easily accessible. For arguments sake, there is bias in all reviews. It maybe personal, environmental and or professional but it's virtually impossible to eliminate bias. I utilize reviews as one of many sources of information and rarely if ever move on a particular product based on one person's opinion.

 

 

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I almost always buy 1 gen older gear, simply because it's more cost effective. Iron tech will change over 5-6 years, but year to year it really doesn't seem from everything I've seen and read to be drastically different.

 

Go hit some sets. If you don't see any gains from a 2016/2017 set to a 2018 set, then go for it.

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If it's a FOMO on gains in technology you'd see a bigger gap if they were clubs from 4-5 years ago. It does depend upon your skill level but trying to save some $ while buying a club from the recent product cycle is financially responsible.

 

 

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I have almost never bought old tech irons. If I'm in the market for a new set, I always sell what I'm getting rid of, so I get the “price reduction” on the brand new set. I always go to a professional fitter., and I find the best deal possible for said set.

 

 

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I don't think you'll miss out by looking for iron, but I'd go hit some different sets. You may find that a set from last year fits your eye and gives you the numbers you want, and they may still be similar to any new set you hit. Lots of good options out there, but I think it's important to find somewhere to get fit.

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I don't think tech changes too much from year to year. Maybe every 5-10 years tech will improve to the point of noticeable data. I think the most important thing is to get fit and find a set that fits your eye. As you see in my signature I play 8 year old irons, and I don't really feel like I am missing out on too much. I have forgiveness, workability and distance. When I was testing out these irons (last year) they were 2 yards shorter with the same dispersion, height, and spin rate as new irons. This was conclusive enough for me that I didn't feel like I needed to pay $600-1000 more for the newest tech.

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I play Adams CB3's, and no irons have shown to be much, if any, better for me. I am getting new irons, leaning to Ping I210's, but that's more because I am missing a coup!e irons out of my set, and to be honest, I just want something shiny and new. I don't expect to all of a sudden drop 3 strokes off my HC. So I think buying a set from 1 or 2 years ago will be fine, as long as they work for your swing.

Rob is correct though, you probably aren't going to get a great deal on a new set of irons that has been out for a year.

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If you're looking at or get fit for Callaway irons, go check their pre-owned site. They are the best when it comes to pre-owned. If you find something in 'like new' condition, it's pretty much brand spankin new but at a good discount. Since I like their wedges and the occasional Odyssey putter, I'll look there before I go find something on eBay or another site. 

 

TaylorMade's pre-owned site is pretty good as well. 

2nd Swing is a real head scratcher. Their condition rating is pretty liberal (mint in their book is not mint in my book) and their prices are 'meh' at best. 

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If you're looking at or get fit for Callaway irons, go check their pre-owned site. They are the best when it comes to pre-owned. If you find something in 'like new' condition, it's pretty much brand spankin new but at a good discount. Since I like their wedges and the occasional Odyssey putter, I'll look there before I go find something on eBay or another site. 

 

TaylorMade's pre-owned site is pretty good as well. 

2nd Swing is a real head scratcher. Their condition rating is pretty liberal (mint in their book is not mint in my book) and their prices are 'meh' at best. 

 

Another +1 for CPO. Have bought numerous things from them, and they always have sales. I've gotten some good deals from them. Even some of their stuff that's rated "very good" looks new.

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... As someone that usually plays new irons every year for my reviews on https://www.facebook.com/InternetGolfReviews/  I can tell you of all the categories of clubs I review, irons are the least likely to perform better, let along significantly better than last years irons. There are many reasons however to buy new/used/older and replace what you are playing. 

1. You just want a change to shake things up. Most of us recognize that playing new irons give you a mental jolt and can energize your iron game. Obviously this depends on budgets and how important golf is to you. And of course there is nothing wrong with playing irons that are older if they work for you. 

2. Your game has changed. You played MB's or serious players irons but now have other responsibilities like young kids, new job, injuries or a myriad of reasons you do not play or practice as much.  There are so many forgiving options out there from low offset, thinner topline irons appealing to better ball strikers to wide soled thick topline irons for confidence and forgiveness for those that want or need it. Of course the opposite is also true. You have improved and need more trajectory control and/or want a better feeling iron. So moving from SGI to GI's or even a forged soft carbon steel players irons could be a viable option. 

 

3. There is a deal that is just too good to pass up. That can be either the irons themselves or even shafts that will be better for your game. 

 

... In all the years I have reviewed and played new irons, it was very rare for any of those irons to have a significant performance increase. Usually it was a boost mentally, a better look at address or a better feel. Amp Forged irons, which I consider to be Hall Of Fame irons, have been "updated" twice now. Fly Z+ were the next generation and now Forged Tours. The cosmetics have changed and some very minor performance changes have been made but the difference between the original Amp Forged and my Forged Tours is negligible. Those looking for a bargain that can find original Amp Forged in like new conditions can get a steal. Cobra sells the Tour Forged 4-pw or 5-gw on their website for $999 but if you look in the Outlet section you will see Fly Z+ irons for $623. And that includes custom shafts! A savings of $376 for virtually the same irons with custom shafts options is a heckova deal.

... There are however, irons that come along every now and then that actually do make a performance difference. Hollow headed hybrid-like SGI irons has been a huge benefit to many higher index players. AP2's fall into that category providing all the performance a better player wants as well as all the forgiveness they need. A more forgiving multi material players is now offered by most OEM's. And PXG started the next performance increase in irons with their hollow, foam filled even more forgiving players iron that was longer than it's competitors and the Players Distance Iron was created. P790's, i500's and it looks like CNCPT players distance irons from Titleist are on the way. My P790's have made a difference in my score, my confidence in long irons and my distance. At age 65 I am not getting longer with my irons so keeping Father Time at bay, even briefly has been a boon to my game. 

... I will end this with my favorite personal philosophy. If you are looking at new irons, look at the most forgiving irons you can effectively play. For different players this has a different meaning. Tiger Woods needs ultimate control of his trajectory and his side to side movement and hits balls everyday so effectively MB's are the most forgiving he can play. About 1% of all golfers fall into that category. So if you are looking at new irons, demo the most forgiving irons you can stand to look at and then progress, if necessary to GI's or even Players Irons.

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If I was in your shoes I would look to get fitted into Mizuno 900s before the fitting abilities are gone because they are sending out the 919 now then look to purchase a discounted set soon those are irons that could last you 10 years.

 

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