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2018 Official Forum Member Review Bridgestone Tour B JGR Driver, Fairway Woods and Hybrids

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Wow Rob that G400 Max was a total bomber for you too. Sweet to hear that the JGR may be even better... that’s really saying something!


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It really is saying something. The 400 is very good. But it doesn’t have s thing over this for me.

Additional note: Our Superintendent saw me on the course today came up to talk. I told him ti take a swing with it.

Cold out of his cart in his boots and no warmups. He hit a drive 20 yards past where he normally is on that hole.

He just looked at me and said “Holy MF’er, what the hell is this thing?”

He couldn’t believe it and followed me to the next hole. Same thing. Two more just as long. We’ll see if he places an order tomorrow. Ha



Bridgestone Tour B JGR Driver and HF2 irons Pre Release Testing
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It really is saying something. The 400 is very good. But it doesn’t have s thing over this for me.

Additional note: Our Superintendent saw me on the course today came up to talk. I told him ti take a swing with it.

Cold out of his cart in his boots and no warmups. He hit a drive 20 yards past where he normally is on that hole.

He just looked at me and said “Holy MF’er, what the hell is this thing?”

He couldn’t believe it and followed me to the next hole. Same thing. Two more just as long. We’ll see if he places an order tomorrow. Ha



Bridgestone Tour B JGR Driver and HF2 irons Pre Release Testing
20 yards further that's impressive

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I'll do my follow up this weekend as there's one or two more things I need to do before I can give my final thoughts.

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Thanks for bumping this thread. I have been meaning to check in on it the past couple of days.  This thread and the Bridgestone wedge thread has really caught my eye.

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Still listing the JGR driver as "Coming Soon" on the Bridgestone website.  Wasn't it supposed to launch on the 8th?  If that doesn't change I will be in MD hitting Rob's next Tuesday.

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1 hour ago, Wedgie said:

Still listing the JGR driver as "Coming Soon" on the Bridgestone website.  Wasn't it supposed to launch on the 8th?  If that doesn't change I will be in MD hitting Rob's next Tuesday.

yes, I confirmed that they did launch on the 8th...sounds like someone slept on that.   

But by all means, come on down to MD to hit mine.   Wait...you don't even have to come that far....check out his thread. 

 

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Thanks for the follow-up Rob.  I need to be in Philly next Wednesday the 17th.  I will see if anyone in that area has them to hit.

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Just now, Wedgie said:

Thanks for the follow-up Rob.  I need to be in Philly next Wednesday the 17th.  I will see if anyone in that area has them to hit.

Club Champion from what I know is supposed to be among the very first places to get them.  If you are going a bit south of Philly...Wilmington has a huge brand new 2nd Swing which my Bridgestone Rep raves about.  But not sure if they have any stock yet. 

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Cool, thanks!  I'm sure I can make my way down there fairly easily.  Or I could wait until spring but where's the fun in that.

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UPDATE

 

Driver: This club was a struggle for me from the outset because of the extreme draw bias of the club. There's 25g of internal weight in the heel and a 10g removable weight in the heel. Bridgestone sent me a 2g weight twice because the first one they sent managed to make a break from the envelope they sent it in. The second one they sent in an envelope inside a box, so their was no getting out of that package. I bunged the 2g weight in and was still hooking the driver, so I put 4g of lead tape on the toe and that helped somewhat, but I still had a bit of a hook with it. I put another 2g of lead on the toe and it was a bit better but there was still something missing. So this weekend I took the midsize Pure DTX (I asked for midsize from Bridgestone but it seems they sent my clubs with standard grips) off my Mizuno and put it on the TBJGR, tweaked my swing a little bit, took 2g of lead off the toe and I was hitting it either straight or with a slight draw. If you suffer from a really bad slice, this would be a driver to look at but, if you hit a straight or draw ball, I couldn't recommend it. As it is now, it's hanging onto my bag by the skin of it's teeth and may not see next season.

 

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3 Wood: The 3 wood, in my opinion, is as good as my JPX_EZ. It's great off the tee and pretty easy to hit off the deck with my average being 211 yards vs 203 with the Mizuno. This club fought it's way into my bag and it won't be going anywhere soon. I also swapped the grip with a Pure DTX and it's just awesome to hit this club.

 

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Hybrids: I'll be honest and say that I wasn't too keen on the hybrids because of my past experience with "wood" shaped ones and my preference for "iron" type hybrids. I was pleasantly surprised when I hit these as they were quite easy out of different lies and I was getting a very nice increase in distance. Imagine my surprise when the first time hittingthese on the course I hit my 4H 206 yards, although my average is quite a bit less than that, compared to my Maltby 4H I'm averaging 12 yards longer with the TBJGR. So, both the 3 and 4 are sticking around but I need to work more with the 3 because I'm nowhere near as confident with it as I am with the 4.

 

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There you have it, Bridgestone have done a very good job with these clubs, although the driver could have been better without so much weight in the heel. They'll be hanging around my bag for the foreseeable, which is a surprise, as I didn't think anything would kick the Mizunos out .

 

Thanks again MGS and Bridgestone for the opportunity to test and review my new weapons.

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UPDATE
 
Driver: This club was a struggle for me from the outset because of the extreme draw bias of the club. There's 25g of internal weight in the heel and a 10g removable weight in the heel. Bridgestone sent me a 2g weight twice because the first one they sent managed to make a break from the envelope they sent it in. The second one they sent in an envelope inside a box, so their was no getting out of that package. I bunged the 2g weight in and was still hooking the driver, so I put 4g of lead tape on the toe and that helped somewhat, but I still had a bit of a hook with it. I put another 2g of lead on the toe and it was a bit better but there was still something missing. So this weekend I took the midsize Pure DTX (I asked for midsize from Bridgestone but it seems they sent my clubs with standard grips) off my Mizuno and put it on the TBJGR, tweaked my swing a little bit, took 2g of lead off the toe and I was hitting it either straight or with a slight draw. If you suffer from a really bad slice, this would be a driver to look at but, if you hit a straight or draw ball, I couldn't recommend it. As it is now, it's hanging onto my bag by the skin of it's teeth and may not see next season.
 
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3 Wood: The 3 wood, in my opinion, is as good as my JPX_EZ. It's great off the tee and pretty easy to hit off the deck with my average being 211 yards vs 203 with the Mizuno. This club fought it's way into my bag and it won't be going anywhere soon. I also swapped the grip with a Pure DTX and it's just awesome to hit this club.
 
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Hybrids: I'll be honest and say that I wasn't too keen on the hybrids because of my past experience with "wood" shaped ones and my preference for "iron" type hybrids. I was pleasantly surprised when I hit these as they were quite easy out of different lies and I was getting a very nice increase in distance. Imagine my surprise when the first time hittingthese on the course I hit my 4H 206 yards, although my average is quite a bit less than that, compared to my Maltby 4H I'm averaging 12 yards longer with the TBJGR. So, both the 3 and 4 are sticking around but I need to work more with the 3 because I'm nowhere near as confident with it as I am with the 4.
 
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There you have it, Bridgestone have done a very good job with these clubs, although the driver could have been better without so much weight in the heel. They'll be hanging around my bag for the foreseeable, which is a surprise, as I didn't think anything would kick the Mizunos out .
 
Thanks again MGS and Bridgestone for the opportunity to test and review my new weapons.

Good stuff Matt.

I wouldn't say I struggled with a big slice. But 90% of my drives tend to be a solid 5 to 10 yard fade.

The draw bias in this driver is perfect for me. It has turned my drives into either straight or a very slight draw.

In either case it has worked out putting me in very good position off the tee.




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Good update Matt. I wonder if working with the driver this winter will get you more comfortable with the draw bias of it

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1 hour ago, Mr_Theoo said:

Good update Matt. I wonder if working with the driver this winter will get you more comfortable with the draw bias of it

Thank you mate. I think may be the case, plus I need the practice before I hit Florida with @revkev and @fozcycle in March.

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On 9/25/2018 at 6:55 AM, bardle said:

 

Unfortunately Driver is my best club and I owe it to the ability to tinker.

 

For example, When I got my F7, I had the weight in the toe, a Regular flex shaft and an 11 degree loft, I was slicing everything and maxing out at 225 on good drives. 

 

I spent two range sessions playing with it and hit 150 balls. Put the weight in all 3 spots, turns out the Front worked best, then I lowered the loft and got my swing grooved. that put me at 9.5º.  Now I'm hooking things but swinging faster because it felt more comfortable and of course I was practicing.

 

I did some research and as an experiment bought a used F8 shaft in stiff for 50 dollars with the adapter installed, I plugged it in and after some quick practice, I was hitting it much better(same loft). 

 

That was 4 weeks ago, My last round I hit 85.7% of fairways and averaged 277 yds off the tee according to Arccos (granted that was a very good round for me). Prior to the tinkering I was at 29% FIR and a 205 avg distance...

 

Maybe its just me, but I feel like the flexibility to tinker and adapt is paramount nowadays, especially for beginners whose swings can change from month to month or even week to week given proper instruction. Due to my experience and being able to seamlessly switch out a shaft, I just don't see myself ever buying a driver that isn't adjustable no matter how good it is. I may be in the minority but I feel like it's at least worth hearing opinions on the topic.

Using the F8 shaft also could be helping.. it could have a slightly different bend point and being that it is stiffer might also be helping.. 

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With the way the weather has changed and with daylight getting shorter quickly, I may have played my last round for the season last night, so here are my current thoughts on the Tour B JGR family of woods.

DRIVER: The more I hit it, the more I am disappointed. I don't think my expectations were too high, but it just is not cutting it right now. My back has healed and my swing feels pretty good (although I was a bit stiff from my first session with a trainer at our gym Monday night), but the results are not good. See image below from last night. This hole is about 420 yards and last night was dead into a fairly stiff breeze. The ball mark on the driver face was just to the heel side of center, so not horrible contact. The ball flight was decent with a bit of a fade, ending up about 3 paces off the fairway,  BUT ONLY 200 YARDS LONG per Golf Pad, leaving 220 yards to the center of the green. Normally I would pull a hybrid (which one would depend on whether the course were firm or soft) but because of the wind and temperature being around 50 F, I grabbed the 3W. You can see the picture - I was pin high about 20 feet to the right for an "easy" par.

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I honestly am at a loss for what is going on, but my current thinking is (and has been for the last few weeks) that this shaft isn't right for me. Perhaps one of the more experienced guys can tell me if a shaft mismatch could make that big of a difference? More than likely I will end up going to a fitter at some point this winter to see what's up. Ultimately, I trust that the head is better than the results I am seeing, so I have to think it's the shaft.

3W, 3H, & 4H: The "love affair" with the hybrids continues and my conscious decision to hit more 3W's has paid off. I really like these clubs - they feel good and I have confidence in them, which is a beautiful thing! All three will be in my bag for the foreseeable future. I know the Bridgestone 3H is about 10-15 yards longer than my old TaylorMade 3H and the 4H is about equal to the old 3H. The gapping at the top of my old bag used to be a disaster with the transition from 3H to 5 iron leaving way too large of a gap. With the increased length in the irons and the 4H, I now have options when I get to the 185 - 200 range, which used to be a really bad distance for me. I can only guess about the distance comparison between the JGR and my Callaway - I don't have any tracked shots to really compare, but my gut tells me they are very similar, but the JGR seems a little easier to keep in play.

I am still trying to arrange time to get on a launch monitor to get firmer numbers for comparison for both this thread and the iron thread, but scheduling conflicts keep coming up with me and the friend who has access to one. I assume it will happen, I'm just not exactly sure when - when it does, I will update the threads.

Fire away with any and all questions and comments!

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Yeah, if you’re hitting your 3w off the deck further than driver off the tee, you need to look at a fitting. Something is amiss. Have you tried 3w off the tee???


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Without seeing what your launch angle , spin, swing speed and ball speed are, it would be hard to know what the issue with the driver is. If you can get on a good launch monitor and give us those numbers we'd definitely be able to help

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Yeah, if you’re hitting your 3w off the deck further than driver off the tee, you need to look at a fitting. Something is amiss. Have you tried 3w off the tee???

 

 

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Yes and I've been pretty happy with it, but I have been making an effort to hit the driver more to see if I can figure it out. I've hit a few 3W's off the tee that are in the 240 range.

 

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As mentioned in the Bridgestone iron thread, I had the chance to spend a little time on a simulator to get some data to go along with my perceived notions. The simulator was a TruGolf simulator that seems fairly accurate based on what I've seen on the internet and my observations after hitting on it. There was a serious time constraint, so I was not able to get all the data I wanted, but I got enough to make some real decisions:

Hybrids: I still love these hybrids and they are staying in my bag. I didn't even bother hitting them on the simulator because I feel like I have a good idea what they are capable of doing.

3W: When I last updated this thread, I felt like I was starting to get a grasp on hitting the 3W solid and was more than a little shocked at the following numbers:

JGR 3W:

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Compared to this...

Callaway Razr Fit 3W:

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I was disappointed by the distances I was seeing from the Bridgestone - higher launch, higher spin, and slower off the face are not particularly pleasing to me. Unlike the case of the irons where outliers were messing with the dispersion, in this case, all the shots were decent contact so the dispersion is closer to reality. ever since I made the decision to hit the JGR 3W more, It did seem more accurate than my old Callaway. As I have wondered with the driver, I'm curious what a different shaft might do for me?

Driver: My friend and I had not really figured out the simulator software very well when I was trying to compare drivers, so I don't have any pictures, but I am still disappointed in the JGR driver. Out of 12-15 balls, the farthest I hit the Bridgestone was 250 yards (yes, 5 yards shorter than the max of my old 3W off the deck) with an average around 230 whereas my max distance with my 2010 Adams was 274 yards with an average around 255. As of right now, the Tour B JGR driver will be a decoration sitting in my old bag in the basement. I will likely revisit when spring comes, but as of now, it just isn't making the grade. I'm bummed by this because I think it is a beautiful club, but that doesn't help me score.

We are supposed to play in our league this afternoon for the last time this year. I took the JGR driver out of the bag and my plan is to hit tee balls with the Callaway 3W and the JGR 3W in any other instance that requires it just because I feel like it is more accurate with some supporting data.

I have it stuck in my head that the issues I am having have to be a shaft issue. Hopefully over the winter I can get to Club Champion and find out.

By the way, I forgot to mention in the iron thread, but the balls I used for every shot were the Tour B RX's that Bridgestone sent with the clubs.

Fire away with any questions/comments....

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Gary VanSickle seems to like the Tour B JGR Driver!

 

http://www.morningread.com/features/b2733d69-45b1-4fec-a4ac-5fb56e3b7bdb

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