Jarmst10 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Just wanted to throw this out there as I am curious the cost/benefit of getting fitted for clubs vs just working with a stock set as a higher handicapper(20). Also, does getting fitted benefit your game that much as a higher handicapper or would the money be better used for lessons? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy WITB? Driver: 2016 TaylorMade M2, 9.5*, Irons: 2017 Taylormade M2 4-PW, Wedges: Bombtech 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Odyssey White Hot putter Ball: Callaway Supersoft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Absolutely yes. Results might not he as drastic,but here are some great videos of a high handicap golfer being fitted https://youtu.be/37eeDv5lmlE https://youtu.be/jcUwb5-wviw And if you don't have the money for a full fitting, at least get an understanding of your driver swing (speed, angle of attack) and spend the $7 for an online fitting at Truegolffit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 The stick setup may not fit your swing. Getting fit will put clubs in your hands that will work with you and your swing instead of trying to find a swing that makes the club work. A fitting is about reducing the shot dispersion and improving ball flight characteristics. Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaskanski Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Both? When you think about it, regardless of your ability your clubs should "fit" your physical dimensions, your stance, your strength and ultimately the way you swing. That element doesn't change so much. Lessons are a means of learning an effective and efficient way to deliver the club to the ball as well as learning how and when to play certain shots. BOTH elements of fitting and lessons share one common goal - to enable you to be hitting the ball better every time. The fitted clubs simply increase the chances of finding the centre of the clubface, regardless of your ability. Lessons increase your ability. So it's a self perpetuating win-win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Absolutely yes. Results might not he as drastic,but here are some great videos of a high handicap golfer being fitted And if you don't have the money for a full fitting, at least get an understanding of your driver swing (speed, angle of attack) and spend the $7 for an online fitting at Truegolffit Beat me to the exact same reply. But I'll also add this one G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Just wanted to throw this out there as I am curious the cost/benefit of getting fitted for clubs vs just working with a stock set as a higher handicapper(20). Also, does getting fitted benefit your game that much as a higher handicapper or would the money be better used for lessons? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Yes, I'm a 23 and have done a few fittings. Sometimes to find new clubs that work better others just to make sure I'm in the right specs so I can focus more on improving my game and not wondering if this club is holding me back or something. Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 GET FIT! If you don't, you will alter your swing to fit the clubs not getting clubs that fit your swing. It is a simple as this, fit clubs will ALWAYS perform better than off the rack. Lessons would be a great next step after a fitting. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Both? When you think about it, regardless of your ability your clubs should "fit" your physical dimensions, your stance, your strength and ultimately the way you swing. That element doesn't change so much. Lessons are a means of learning an effective and efficient way to deliver the club to the ball as well as learning how and when to play certain shots. BOTH elements of fitting and lessons share one common goal - to enable you to be hitting the ball better every time. The fitted clubs simply increase the chances of finding the centre of the clubface, regardless of your ability. Lessons increase your ability. So it's a self perpetuating win-win situation. It really is this answer. If you are misfit for clubs you can develop a lifetime of bad habits. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdubya Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 i can only speak as a guy that just got fit for a driver only...i've played more golf than i ever have this year and rewarded myself for finally breaking 90 by getting a fit for a new driver. 1. i'm basically an off the rack standard size guy, 6ft and 180 2. i had no idea what my swing speed was and my last driver was an off the rack 12* tm aeroburner with a "regular" shaft 3. where i went the guy tested the actual stiffness of my shaft and his findings were that it was actually stiff and not regular. 4. then i got in the bay and started hitting. first he found my swing speed, which was between 95-100 5. from there he got me trying different heads. all the new stuff. the pings, the 2 taylor made ones, the rogue, and i think one other. 6. the main thing was finding the combo which got the tightest dispersion which is really what i wanted. i can regularly hit the ball 250, and sometimes a lot further, with the 12* i had. 7. from there he tried to max my distance with a few other shafts but we decided on what seemed to give me more forgiveness/what was in or closest to the fairway. i ended up with a callaway rogue 9* with an off the rack shaft option which was the same sort of performance of some fancy one that was like 200 bucks or whatever. the main thing, for me, was knowing i was fitted for something that really did match my swing and i saw working. now that it's taken care of in that way, i can't blame the club can i? haha. really though that's the best thing i got out of it. Rogue 9* w. Hzrdus Green 55 Rogue 3W 15* w. Project X Evenflow Blue 75 Rogue X 3H 18* w. Project X Evenflow Black 85 JPX 919 Hot Metal 4-GW w. Nippon 950 stiff S18 55* and 60* w. Nippon 950 stiff Method Matter B2-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 The entire launch monitor fitting might be premature at the beginner level, I would guess, but lie angles at the very least should be checked. At least with irons and wedges. Most modern metalwoods can't be bent, unfortunately, and with woods, there's a face angle issue as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbmullin Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Joined MGS back in march and as I read more , most everyone on here recommended getting fit, knowing I was in the market for new irons and possibly driver, I went and got fit and it was the best thing I could have done for my game. I am a high handicapper as well but improving. From being fit I would have never known I needed a more upright lie angle (ping green dot) I did not think much about the grips but I actually needed a bigger grip size, the shafts I got the best for my swing speed ( no idea prior as to what my avg speed was) . As a bonus the fitter being a teaching pro also adjusted my grip after observing I had a tendency to go left , was an awkward adjustment but after practice it has been a difference maker. I took the lessons pre new clubs and have been able to incorporate both into my improved game. Setup, address, weight transition, swing tempo ( big one for me I was swinging for the fences on every drive) The two combined have helped my game tremendously. DRIVER - Ping G425 SFT Driver Tensei AV 55 Orange Reg Flex Woods - Ping G425 7 wood Tensei AV 65 Orange Reg Flex Irons - Cobra Rad Speed 1 Length UST Recoil 780 Smacwrap Graphite Reg Flex WEDGES- Callaway jaws 52/56/60 PUTTER- Taylormade FCG spider putter 34" BALL- Pro V1x or Tp5X -- trying to figure this one out. Footjoy Tour S golf shoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Joined MGS back in march and as I read more , most everyone on here recommended getting fit, knowing I was in the market for new irons and possibly driver, I went and got fit and it was the best thing I could have done for my game. I am a high handicapper as well but improving. From being fit I would have never known I needed a more upright lie angle (ping green dot) I did not think much about the grips but I actually needed a bigger grip size, the shafts I got the best for my swing speed ( no idea prior as to what my avg speed was) . As a bonus the fitter being a teaching pro also adjusted my grip after observing I had a tendency to go left , was an awkward adjustment but after practice it has been a difference maker. I took the lessons pre new clubs and have been able to incorporate both into my improved game. Setup, address, weight transition, swing tempo ( big one for me I was swinging for the fences on every drive) The two combined have helped my game tremendously. Thats awesome stuff. A real testament to the quality fitting you got. Just like me in the TXG video of my fitting. Ian actually took about 30 minutes to address two swing faults. Not judt try and cram a club down my throat. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullldog Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I'm on the opposite side. I say no. No need to spend more money that aint necessary yet. I think lessons first or just enjoy the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPenso Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 If I had to choose between the two options, club fitting or lessons, I'd choose lessons all day long. I'm not a big believer that getting fitted is a big benefit for most high handicappers. If you can figure out your driver swing speed and work back from there to get an idea of your shaft stiffness, I'd say just buy a good quality set of game improvement clubs and spend your money on lessons and at the driving range putting those lessons into practice. This is especially true if you are a "standard size" fella, say 5'8-6' tall, which covers the majority of us. Of course if you are 5'2 or 6'6" off the rack might be radically unsuited to you. In my experience most high handicappers suffer from two basic shortcomings. They don't practice enough or at all, and they don't work on their swing via lessons or self taught. They just show up to the course and swing away and generally, just hitting balls is a chore and forget about warming up with more than a few chips and a half dozen putts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 I'm kinda on the fence with a full blown fitting for a beginner. I think one can go to one of the big golf centers and spend a little while in the booth with a salesman and swing a bunch of different clubs. I think it's good to have an idea of what you want to learn tho, with the main emphasis on swing speed to get a general idea of shaft flex. But no matter how well a club is fitted, if the dude has a fatal swing flaw, only lessons can help that. But, I guess the question should be, Do you already have decent clubs, or are you thinking of buying some new ones? If you're dumping a lot of coin on new stix then by all means, get them fitted. But mostly, it depends... TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteddyGolf Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Something to consider in regards to when to get fitted....... what are your measurements? Do you fall between the 5 10 to 6 foot range? Do you have big Michael Jordan hands? Or the wing span of LeBron James? My point here is if you are an average dude then work on posture, technique and tempo first. If you fall outside of the normal measurement range then getting fitted upfront will pay huge dividends as you develop. Caveat- if you have physical limitations (other than lack of talent) and or a disability then you to are a strong candidate for an early fitting. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Miura MB 502 Irons ping G400 Driver Cobra F7 3 wood Mizuno putter Mizuno Wedges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 If I had to choose between the two options, club fitting or lessons, I'd choose lessons all day long. I'm not a big believer that getting fitted is a big benefit for most high handicappers. If you can figure out your driver swing speed and work back from there to get an idea of your shaft stiffness, I'd say just buy a good quality set of game improvement clubs and spend your money on lessons and at the driving range putting those lessons into practice. This is especially true if you are a "standard size" fella, say 5'8-6' tall, which covers the majority of us. Of course if you are 5'2 or 6'6" off the rack might be radically unsuited to you. In my experience most high handicappers suffer from two basic shortcomings. They don't practice enough or at all, and they don't work on their swing via lessons or self taught. They just show up to the course and swing away and generally, just hitting balls is a chore and forget about warming up with more than a few chips and a half dozen putts. I agree, I'd also add buy used clubs (+ add new grips) and spend the difference on lessons and range balls. A couple of years from now as one gets better then a fitting an new clubs might be in order. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH1980MN Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I'm in the "both" camp- if you're brand new to the game, take a lesson or two, and get a basic fitting to get you close- at least get the clubs you have (assuming they're in the ballpark of what you should be swinging) dialed in to your specs, or get your specs so you know what to look for while shopping. However, lessons, or even a basic thirty minute session or two will do a ton to get you headed the right way. Take it from there. WITB: Adams 9064LS 9.5* (until I cracked the face) Adams Super LS 17* Adams XTD Ti 23* Wilson Staff Ci7 4-PW Adams wedges: 52/7 56/13 60/7 Wilson Staff Infinite Southside putter/Odyssey DualForce 660 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPenso Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Something to consider in regards to when to get fitted....... what are your measurements? Do you fall between the 5 10 to 6 foot range? Do you have big Michael Jordan hands? Or the wing span of LeBron James? My point here is if you are an average dude then work on posture, technique and tempo first. If you fall outside of the normal measurement range then getting fitted upfront will pay huge dividends as you develop. Caveat- if you have physical limitations (other than lack of talent) and or a disability then you to are a strong candidate for an early fitting. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy If you're 5'10" with LeBron's 7 foot wingspan you're probably too busy working in the circus to have time for golf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchester33 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I agree, I'd also add buy used clubs (+ add new grips) and spend the difference on lessons and range balls. A couple of years from now as one gets better then a fitting an new clubs might be in order. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Fully agree with Tony here. Because golf requires trying out clubs before pulling the trigger on them you can always go into any golf galaxy or PGA superstore and try out the clubs they have to see what works for you, especially with their used clubs. You can learn a lot about what you like from hitting a few used drivers or irons with different shafts/lofts/head shapes and decide whats right for you based on what the monitor says. And because golfers love to buy equipment more than maybe anyone but motorheads there is a plethora of used equipment on ebay at great prices which lets you focus your funds on getting better. Driver: Callaway Rogue - Project X HZRDUS Yellow, 6.0, 63g Fairway: Callaway Epic 3 wood, Rogue MAX stiff, 75g 4-6 Iron: Mizuno JPX-850 - Project X 5.5 7-PW: Mizuno JPX-850 Forged - Project X 5.5 Wedges: Mizuno MP-T5 (50, 54), Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 60 ES Putter: Odyssey Marxman, Currently tested and kept Golf Pride Tour SNSR Contour Pro 140cc grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinius Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I went to Golf Galaxy to try some irons and left disappointed. For one, I do not think the LM was accurate as it stated my swing speed varied from 48 to 72 mph and that I only hit my 7-iron 130 yards. In fact, I consistently hit my 7-iron 155 yards at the range and on the course. With that being said, the employee gave me a Taylormade M4 that was 2* flat and it made a world of difference in the quality of contact that I was making with the ball. All this to say, I think that a basic fitting for a high handicap player can make a significant difference. Unfortunately, I can't bend my 13-year-old Taylormade RAC CGB irons... Driver: F7 with Fujikura regular flex shaft Fairway: XHot Hybrid: Fly-Z XL Irons: RAC CGB with regular flex graphite shafts Wedges: 52-degree Bombtech Golf wedge 56-degree Vokey SM-6 M-Grind 60-degree Speedblade Putter: O-Works 2-ball Handicap: 25.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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