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Guy I've been playing with quite a bit this year and starting to get to know better told me last weekend while we were playing that he was trying to put together a golf trip to Ireland for next year.

One week trip with 6 days of golf.

 

The next words out of his mouth were "..something, something, 3300 per guy...something...something"

 

I tried to play it cool but WHOA!.... 

 

Someone please tell me this isn't accurate.... there's got to be a better way.

 

I'm not sure what courses he's playing but that price seems really really high.

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Does the number include flights?  Hotels?

 

Flights are anywhere from 500-800

 

Hotels in Ireland will run anywhere from 100-200 a night

 

So there you are looking at basically almost $2000 before you even start counting greens fees.  Definitely doesn't seem like a crazy number

This is accurate.  Do your own homework if you want, but $3,300 for a week in Ireland is average.  Sure, you can spend the time and look for deals, etc, but what your buddy is quoting isn't insane.

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Yeah, if this is all inclusive, it is pretty accurate.

I am sure you could go bargain hunting and find it for $500 cheaper or something but your buddy definitely isn't way out of the ballpark.

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I agree, it isn't a crazy number.  There are certainly some ways to save some money, easiest is to stay away from the most famous courses.  The big names are in the Southwest (Waterville, Ballybunion, Lahinch, Old Head, Doonbeg) or in Northern Ireland (all of the Royals).  You could go to County Mayo, Sligo, and/or Donegal and play wonderful Irish links and pay a lot less.  Another way is to stay in a B&B instead of a hotel.  The thing is, if your friend is using a booking service, they'll generally steer you towards more luxurious lodgings and more famous courses.  They might also include a vehicle and driver, you can save money by driving yourselves.  

 

On the other hand, Ireland is a brilliant place to visit.  Many of the golf courses are outstanding, the people are friendly, and the food and drink are good to excellent.  The only problem with going to Ireland once is that you'll want to go back over and over again.

 

I just realized, I have a point of comparison.  In June I spent a week in Scotland, (flew IcelandAir to save about $400), 8 days of golf planned (we played a few more holes along the way) 8 nights lodging (one nice B&B, one small hotel), we drove ourselves, and our base cost was under$2000, plus about $850 for air travel.  We didn't play Open rota courses, although Prestwick hosted the first 12 Open Championships.  If your friend is talking $3300 plus air, he's being quoted a fairly high-class package.

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It just seems that in this day and age with vacation home rentals and Uber this should be cheaper.

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It just seems that in this day and age with vacation home rentals and Uber this should be cheaper.

Have you ever traveled outside CONUS?

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I just went on an Ireland Scotland family vacation. Just the wife and I. I only played one round at St. Andrews and with sightseeing, food, lodging, and travel we were just shy of 10. We were there for 10 days.

 

If $3,300 is everything, I think that is a hell of a deal.

 

 

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Have you ever traveled outside CONUS?

I was gonna ask the same... but yeah, Europe can get really expensive. Price is actually pretty reasonable when you add airfare from the US.

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Don't forget to factor in that the U.S. dollar is about $0.75 on the dollar in Northern Ireland and Scotland.

 

 

 

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I'm wondering whether strokerace has any more information on what that price included.  Details that would make a difference would be:

Level of accommodation (hotels, B&B), single or two per room

Transport included, including driver, or self-drive rental vehicle(s)?

Courses?

Airfare included?

Meals included, beyond breakfast (which is included at most places)?

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I don't really have too many details yet; I think he mentioned that transportation was included and there were some pretty nice courses.

Nevertheless this is way out of my budget but I just wanted to see if it was reasonable....which, it sounds like it is.

Guess I'll be waiting a while to golf in Ireland!

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I don't really have too many details yet; I think he mentioned that transportation was included and there were some pretty nice courses.
Nevertheless this is way out of my budget but I just wanted to see if it was reasonable....which, it sounds like it is.
Guess I'll be waiting a while to golf in Ireland!



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I'm planning a trip for May, you can save a lot by staying in Airbnbs. Also kind of random but you can save a decent amount if your credit card / auto insurance provider has rental car coverage so you don't have to pay up for the expensive coverage from the rental companies.

 

I'm shelling out for Ballybunion, and filling in the rest of the trip with so called "hidden gems" that are less well known but very good value. (Dingle, Ballybunion Cashen course, Dooks, and some courses in County Louth north of Dublin, one of which is County Louth Golf Club a nice old links course that has hosted two Irish opens)

 

Played Waterville a few years ago. Amazing place. Next time around I'll hit Lahinch and RCD, once I win the lottery that is...

 

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On 11/28/2018 at 7:27 AM, rwmck9 said:

I'm planning a trip for May, you can save a lot by staying in Airbnbs. Also kind of random but you can save a decent amount if your credit card / auto insurance provider has rental car coverage so you don't have to pay up for the expensive coverage from the rental companies.

 

I'm shelling out for Ballybunion, and filling in the rest of the trip with so called "hidden gems" that are less well known but very good value. (Dingle, Ballybunion Cashen course, Dooks, and some courses in County Louth north of Dublin, one of which is County Louth Golf Club a nice old links course that has hosted two Irish opens)

 

Played Waterville a few years ago. Amazing place. Next time around I'll hit Lahinch and RCD, once I win the lottery that is...

 

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Make sure you play Sea Point while your in Louth
I'll chime in, absolutely play the Island Club your last day there and stay in Malahide. It's very close to the Dublin airport and a thrilling topsy-turvy gorse covered links. Also Ardglass is on my list for that side of the country. European Club to the south in Wicklow is amazing. Portmarnock Old didn't do much for me tbh.

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If you have a flexible schedule, try looking on Groupon or living social. We got flight, a huge house at adare manor for 6 days and a manual transmission van (we upgraded to the automatic) but that was around 8-900 person. This would be a good base price and starting point. We did a lot of driving over that time because we just stayed at adare. We played the course there and old head because my mom and wife with with us, but you can get some amazing deals on flight and one place of stay through them. Good luck!


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hmmm, our trip to Irleand and Scotland (playing 7 courses to include old head, the european club, portmarnok, New course, carnousite, jubilee, kingsbarn) all hotels (Portmarnok, Scores, Metropole) transportation provided with private driver, all include the full Irish and Scotish each day and 2 dinners plus a gift card or so.  I'm starting to wonder if we took it in shorts for 4400, plus we needed airfare?  Oh well, its about to go down and its paid for...I'm going to enjoy it.

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hmmm, our trip to Irleand and Scotland (playing 7 courses to include old head, the european club, portmarnok, New course, carnousite, jubilee, kingsbarn) all hotels (Portmarnok, Scores, Metropole) transportation provided with private driver, all include the full Irish and Scotish each day and 2 dinners plus a gift card or so.  I'm starting to wonder if we took it in shorts for 4400, plus we needed airfare?  Oh well, its about to go down and its paid for...I'm going to enjoy it.

The newer courses are also some of the most expensive, and you have three of those on your list.  Private drivers are expensive, and you're staying in nice hotels.  You can plan these kinds of trips yourself, play some less-famous courses, stay in B&Bs, and drive yourself, and save a bit.  When you work through an agency, that agency has to make some money somewhere.

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The newer courses are also some of the most expensive, and you have three of those on your list.  Private drivers are expensive, and you're staying in nice hotels.  You can plan these kinds of trips yourself, play some less-famous courses, stay in B&Bs, and drive yourself, and save a bit.  When you work through an agency, that agency has to make some money somewhere.

Yea, that sounds about right.  I'm thinking next time we do this I'd like to do Scotland or Ireland and stay in airbnb and such.  Thanks for input on the golf in the St Andrews area...we will check one of them out for sure.

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You can do it much cheaper, just takes work. Wife and I are going in September and with flights and hotels (used AirBnB for a few places) for both of us its under 2k.  

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OK....Truth....You can go to Ireland for a week and spend $1000 a head and play courses like the one down the street. Stay at Motel 6's.. And fly cheapass air..Like Thomas Cook that just went belly up...Right now course costs in $...Ballybunion 290, Old Head 390, Waterville 250, Tralee 275, Lahinch 275, Royal Portrush 290, Royal County Down 300.....If you go 3000 plus miles to play golf....Those are the places you want to go first few trips...Do you get in your car....drive 3 hours to play the local muni for $20....NYET...So why go to Ireland to play below average courses....No. You go to play the worlds great links courses....and they are not cheap. I set up trips...Not bunches of trips but a few every year. I have 4 guys going next August. Single rooms at nice places. Playing the standard rotation of great courses in SW Ireland. 6 nights, 6 rounds, bus, driver...NO Air. $5200 a head. Asking cost of a trip to far away special places is like asking...How much should my Driver cost. Some guys have drivers that were a $100 and play fine. Some spend over $500...Special Trip 101...If you have to be concerned re cost...Maybe don't go. Everybody has a story of some special nice course they played in far away places for cheap money....As with most everything in life...You get what you pay for....

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OK....Truth....You can go to Ireland for a week and spend $1000 a head and play courses like the one down the street. Stay at Motel 6's.. And fly cheapass air..Like Thomas Cook that just went belly up...Right now course costs in $...Ballybunion 290, Old Head 390, Waterville 250, Tralee 275, Lahinch 275, Royal Portrush 290, Royal County Down 300.....If you go 3000 plus miles to play golf....Those are the places you want to go first few trips...Do you get in your car....drive 3 hours to play the local muni for $20....NYET...So why go to Ireland to play below average courses....No. You go to play the worlds great links courses....and they are not cheap. I set up trips...Not bunches of trips but a few every year. I have 4 guys going next August. Single rooms at nice places. Playing the standard rotation of great courses in SW Ireland. 6 nights, 6 rounds, bus, driver...NO Air. $5200 a head. Asking cost of a trip to far away special places is like asking...How much should my Driver cost. Some guys have drivers that were a $100 and play fine. Some spend over $500...Special Trip 101...If you have to be concerned re cost...Maybe don't go. Everybody has a story of some special nice course they played in far away places for cheap money....As with most everything in life...You get what you pay for....

I don't completely disagree, a number of those courses are absolutely outstanding, and well worth the price.  But there ARE outstanding links courses that aren't as expensive.  On my last trip I played at Carne and Enniscrone, with current greens fees of 110 and 125 euros (1 euro is $1.09 when I just checked), essentially half the price of the courses you list.  These courses provide an incredible experience, even more dramatic dunes than at the more famous courses further south.  And oddly enough, you might actually be around Irishmen on the golf course, not all tourists.  Someone who is budget-conscious can choose to double up in rooms, or stay in a less expensive hotel.  I like having my breakfast prepared for me, so I wouldn't choose AirBnB, but that's another option.  You CAN drive yourself, you don't NEED to have a driver, especially if you're staying in one place for a few days at a time. 

I wouldn't ever tell anyone that a top of the line Ireland trip is a poor choice, and I'd always recommend playing at least a few of the well-known greats.  But you can have an amazing experience at a lesser price with a compromise or two, and careful planning.

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Based on my brief poking around the interwebz, regarding this subject, $3300 for a week of golf at top end courses and lodging seems average.  If that includes flights, it's a really good deal.  This makes me wish I'd have been a little less committed to the corporation while they had me traveling all over the globe 😐.  That said, as much as I'd like to play Ireland courses, there are a few loops here in the good old USofA I will do beforehand... Robert Trent Jones Trail, Golf Hall of Fame to begin with but there are many others to choose from.

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Watching the latest "Tourist Sauce" season from the No Laying Up crew made me think of this thread. For all the hype Scotland gets as a golf destination the Irish golf looks positively breathtaking. I think they've been very fair in comparing the two. You can tell the difference in the weather though, the Scottish courses all looked burned out and the Irish ones are very green and lush. 

I highly recommend watching if anybody is planning on taking a trip. They talk about having a driver too and not only is the scenery beautiful to look at, but many of the roads are one-way, narrow or difficult to navigate. Having a driver means you don't have to worry about that, which seems appealing to me. Lots of great shots of the nightlife in the little towns they are visiting as well, and lots of Guinness. 

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I have done multiple trips to Ireland and Scotland.  Each has advantages and disadvantages.  

 

The courses in Ireland tend to be more dramatic--bigger dunes, more separation of holes, more elevation changes. But, the courses are pretty spread out.  You will spend a lot of time in a car in Ireland and frequently change hotels.  (Again, these are generalizations.)

 

The courses in Scotland tend to be flatter, but are no less of a test of golf.  But, the courses are grouped together, so much less travel is involved.  You can stay in the same hotel for days and only have short drives to multiple courses.   Troon, Prestwick and Turnberry in one hotel, the Old, New, Jubilee and Kingsbarn from one hotel.  North Berwick, Gullane and Muirfield.  

 

Both are great trips.  My favorite courses are about evenly split between the two, with the nod to Ireland, particularly Northern Ireland.  But if you want to relax more and travel less between rounds, then I would recommend going to Scotland first.    

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18 minutes ago, newballcoach said:

Watching the latest "Tourist Sauce" season from the No Laying Up crew made me think of this thread. For all the hype Scotland gets as a golf destination the Irish golf looks positively breathtaking. I think they've been very fair in comparing the two. You can tell the difference in the weather though, the Scottish courses all looked burned out and the Irish ones are very green and lush. 

I highly recommend watching if anybody is planning on taking a trip. They talk about having a driver too and not only is the scenery beautiful to look at, but many of the roads are one-way, narrow or difficult to navigate. Having a driver means you don't have to worry about that, which seems appealing to me. Lots of great shots of the nightlife in the little towns they are visiting as well, and lots of Guinness. 

I've been to both Scotland and Ireland a couple of times.  I've loved every minute, but there are some differences.  Ireland has courses with much more dramatic dunes, higher highs, steeper slopes than I've seen in Scotland. In Scotland, you can stay in one of 3 or 4 spots, and find a bunch of golf courses within an hours drive.  In Ireland, they're much more spread out, you'll end up with longer drives and more different hotels.  In both places I've been a primary driver for our group, and never had a problem doing it.  If you want to hit every good golf course, no matter where you go, you'll spend a lot more time in the vehicle than you will in the pubs, so a driver is a good idea  These are the kinds of trips that the tour companies want to market, big name courses, higher-end hotels, and a driver.  But if you choose a couple of hubs, with shorter drives to the courses, and maybe not quite so many big name courses, I don't think you really need the expense of a driver.  Everyplace I've stayed, I walked to pubs and restaurants, no real need to drive much in the evenings.  I prefer to stay in one place for a few nights, and not have to pack and unpack a bunch.  But there's brilliant golf to be had in both places.  

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Just now, alfriday101 said:

Looks like we were typing at the same time, Dave.  

We were, and apparently we agree on most of this stuff.  One more thing, and it follows on some of the factors we mentioned, for a first-timer, I'd recommend spending a week in St Andrews.  Lots of golf nearby, a lovely town with great restaurants and pubs, not far from either main airport.

:titleist-small: Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff

:callaway-small:Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X

:mizuno-small: T22 54 and 58 wedges

:mizuno-small: 7-wood

:Sub70: 5-wood

 B60 G5i putter

Right handed

Reston, Virginia

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