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11 hours ago, edingc said:

I broke down and ordered the Stability Mat at the beginning of the month, and it finally arrived today. Found a good deal online and got it for $37 delivered. All I can say is: Buy the mat! I had been trying to do kneeling swings on a piece of cardboard. The mat is so much better.

Saw a few 103 and 104 mile per hour swings on my Swing Caddie today during my range session, including one estimated carry of 252 yards. That is very promising. And tonight's training session yielded my best green club swing yet:

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My on course results haven't been as great, but my speed is definitely improved from last season. 

Man congrats on the big number!

Your training numbers confuse me a bit (not to be insulting), I'm not yet understanding where the speed goes on the driver SS though? You've been posting all the same and comparable numbers I've reported for some time I think but from your reports the driver SS hasn't played up to full potential yet? Holding back on the driver?

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6 hours ago, Trial&Error said:

Man congrats on the big number!

Your training numbers confuse me a bit (not to be insulting), I'm not yet understanding where the speed goes on the driver SS though? You've been posting all the same and comparable numbers I've reported for some time I think but from your reports the driver SS hasn't played up to full potential yet? Holding back on the driver?

Thanks! No offense taken at all. It's a little disheartening, though I'm not at all surprised. I have a bit of a complex once I get on the course - I tend to forget everything I've worked on and start getting really out of sorts at times. I especially fight a hitting impulse that is a speed killer.

(I say I'm not surprised because as a baseball player I'd randomly go through stretches where I'd just forget how to throw from third to first. Like air mailing first base by 10 feet kind of stuff. Oh well, we're not all cut out to be major league players or professional golfers 🤣.)

For example, without a ball I can swing the driver "dry" routinely in the mid-110s on the radar. Today before my round I hit 105 with my fastest swing while hitting a ball, with many around 102-103. 

I've been taking the SuperSpeed radar and sticks with me to the range in an effort to fix some of that. I take a few swings with the sticks, a few dry swings with the driver, and then hit a ball or two. If the speed isn't great, I go back to sticks or dry swings and try to carry that feeling to actually hitting the ball.

EDIT: @Trial&Error I looked back at your posts and one major difference between you and me is that your blue and red club numbers are much higher than mine on average. I occasionally see mid-120s with the blue club and saw 119 once with the red club, but my averages are much lower and I'd consider these high numbers an anomaly. I would say my typical blue swing is between 119-121 and my typical red swing is 112-114. 

In fact, during the second protocol I've seen the biggest gains in the green club and all of my lefthanded stuff. The blue and red clubs have remained rather stagnant or even dropped a bit from level one. Maybe that has something to do with this as well. Might be a thing to focus on as I continue my training.

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@edingc that's great man and that's why I'm glad we have alot of these things in type here so we can go back and reference just as you have. Glad you were able to do that and yeah you've got speed on tap when needed.

I did this today with you on my mind to report back and also so I can confirm or not if my numbers are still steady or not. Yesterday, my level 3 training numbers were Green 134, Blue 131 and Red 124. Went to range today, very brief warmup with 15 9 irons and then hit 12 drivers for recording data (just regular swings, no craziness). Driver swings I had one "stinker" low of 109mph, highest of 117mph, and averaged 113.08mph for all.

I'll start Level 4 weeks end this week, let's just keep banging it out!

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1 hour ago, edingc said:

I occasionally see mid-120s with the blue club and saw 119 once with the red club, but my averages are much lower and I'd consider these high numbers an anomaly. I would say my typical blue swing is between 119-121 and my typical red swing is 112-114. 

And that is a very good point you have there. I actually feel like I tend to struggle with the lightest stick and yet can get pretty decent numbers with the heavier ones. Seems the same with the actual drivers too. Part of my trip out today was just to also test speeds of two very different drivers I have, one being especially heavy...........and ironically I can still swing it the same speed as the much lighter one. It was the other purpose of today's outing

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A bit disappointed today. Was doing some club testing and had an opportunity to hit a driver on the gC quad. Swing speed 105. Essentially what it was before I started superspeed training. Was hoping to be 110ish. Oh well.

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Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
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Irons:      :srixon-small: 765 6-AW with KBS Tour shafts
Wedge:  :cleveland-small: 588 54-14, 58-12
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A bit disappointed today. Was doing some club testing and had an opportunity to hit a driver on the gC quad. Swing speed 105. Essentially what it was before I started superspeed training. Was hoping to be 110ish. Oh well.


Try it again soon - good days and bad days you know.

I didn’t use any swing speed devices today because I just wanted to hit a few shots with every club - haven’t swung a club for a week and wanted to remember what the clubs looked like.

Warmed up, hit wedge, 9,,8 got to 7 and started to reach the flag that I was aiming aid so I grabbed my range finder expecting to see 165 or so pop up - 172! Grabbed 6 iron and started knocking it past. I was waving good by to the 185 flag with the 4 hybrid and way past the farther flag that was 230 with driver.

Very pleased and I hit it solidly too - my poorest shots were a bit thin but playable!


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2/3’s of the way through week three now.  So far no bumps in max speeds in training.

I had a range session last night to try to work through the driving trouble I had on Saturday. I warmed up, went to the short game area and had a good session.  Moved on to the range and was really pleased with the mid irons. Crisp strikes, on target, very consistent. When I took out the 3w and driver, I had all sorts of difficulties executing a swing.  I kept swinging as though I was  trying to knock the cover off the ball with the consequent effect that I was off balance with poor tempo and shots going everywhere but down the range. It took me about an hour to regain some control and actually swing, not HIT! KILL! the ball.

I feared I might be susceptible to this sort of thing, my teachers have always worked hard to get me out of hitting mode and into swinging mode.  Has anyone else struggled with this?  Anyway, I do find it curious that my iron striking has improved while I’ve gone into hit mode with the driver.

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Maybe there is no correlation between the training and actual driver swing, maybe there is.  I certainly hope that I can get back on track.

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15 minutes ago, L.I. Rich said:

Maybe there is no correlation between the training and actual driver swing, maybe there is.  I certainly hope that I can get back on track.

Don't get discouraged. While they (superspeed) do have some rough correlations of training numbers versus swing speed, please remember: you are your own best test subject. All you can do is stick to it, log the training numbers, and continue to test your Driver SS every few weeks or months and look for YOUR patterns. That's what I did . I found as I logged training versus my driver SS, I could see my own patterns emerging. Past that, I know not

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3 minutes ago, Trial&Error said:

Don't get discouraged. While they (superspeed) do have some rough correlations of training numbers versus swing speed, please remember: you are your own best test subject. All you can do is stick to it, log the training numbers, and continue to test your Driver SS every few weeks or months and look for YOUR patterns. That's what I did . I found as I logged training versus my driver SS, I could see my own patterns emerging. Past that, I know not

Thanks for the kind words.

I believe that the training works based upon the evidence from this thread, its adoption on tour, and the endorsement from the pros at my club.  I think I need to keep up with swing practice as diligently as I am following the protocol to gel it all together.

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2/3’s of the way through week three now.  So far no bumps in max speeds in training.
I had a range session last night to try to work through the driving trouble I had on Saturday. I warmed up, went to the short game area and had a good session.  Moved on to the range and was really pleased with the mid irons. Crisp strikes, on target, very consistent. When I took out the 3w and driver, I had all sorts of difficulties executing a swing.  I kept swinging as though I was  trying to knock the cover off the ball with the consequent effect that I was off balance with poor tempo and shots going everywhere but down the range. It took me about an hour to regain some control and actually swing, not HIT! KILL! the ball.
I feared I might be susceptible to this sort of thing, my teachers have always worked hard to get me out of hitting mode and into swinging mode.  Has anyone else struggled with this?  Anyway, I do find it curious that my iron striking has improved while I’ve gone into hit mode with the driver.
Keep up the good work, you'll start seeing improvements soon. As @Trial&Error stated, you'll start seeing your own patterns begin to emerge. For me, the real jump in training speeds happened in week 4. I've also noticed that during the next two workout protocols that I see a pattern of regression at the start of a new protocol and slight gains here and there up until two weeks before the end and that's where I see my best numbers. The final two weeks my speed goes down a bit.

As far as driver speed goes, you will see gains probably between weeks 6 and 9, it takes a while for everything to click. When it does, it's amazing. I'm still in a maintenance phase right now but I'm planning on jumping back into training next week once we go back to ten hour days at work and I can no longer play during the week.



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Than you Sir!

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Did anyone experience issues with their golf swing while using these?  I am about 3 weeks in and have developed a major swing issue and I am not sure if it is from this or the fact that I just do not practice any more. 

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Did anyone experience issues with their golf swing while using these?  I am about 3 weeks in and have developed a major swing issue and I am not sure if it is from this or the fact that I just do not practice any more. 

There have been some comments about this throughout the thread. I don’t have any proof other than it not being my norm but as I got toward week 8 I developed a push/slice with all my clubs. Been dealing with that for a couple of weeks but seem to be getting back on track.
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Wedge:  :cleveland-small: 588 54-14, 58-12
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2/3’s of the way through week three now.  So far no bumps in max speeds in training.
I had a range session last night to try to work through the driving trouble I had on Saturday. I warmed up, went to the short game area and had a good session.  Moved on to the range and was really pleased with the mid irons. Crisp strikes, on target, very consistent. When I took out the 3w and driver, I had all sorts of difficulties executing a swing.  I kept swinging as though I was  trying to knock the cover off the ball with the consequent effect that I was off balance with poor tempo and shots going everywhere but down the range. It took me about an hour to regain some control and actually swing, not HIT! KILL! the ball.
I feared I might be susceptible to this sort of thing, my teachers have always worked hard to get me out of hitting mode and into swinging mode.  Has anyone else struggled with this?  Anyway, I do find it curious that my iron striking has improved while I’ve gone into hit mode with the driver.


Yes - a few times depending upon the drills in the protocol. So I had some issues at about the point you are at, also whenever it was the kneeling swings started. Both times the issues went away quickly.

You should also know that SuperSpeed claims that you will hit the ball farther and more consistently if you focus on swinging fast (not hard) on the course. They’ve done extensive testing on this. You may wish to send an email to them, they will respond and you can discuss it with them. If it helps I think of the step through when hitting driver - I also think of that drill and visualize the ball flying high with a slight draw right down the middle on my last 3 swings part of the protocol.

Also I was one of the few testers who found that my irons improved ahead of my driver, quality of ball strike and distance.

We are all different so while we may collectively reflect SuperSpeed’s data we will have distinctively individual results.


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Also I was one of the few testers who found that my irons improved ahead of my driver, quality of ball strike and distance.
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I would probably say my irons were/are ahead of driver.
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Thank you RevKev.  I think I will reach out to them, it can only help.  I will have to figure out how to differentiate and focus on fast as opposed to hard.  I don’t want to think about mechanics on the course (of course :-)).

It’s good to hear you describe the improvement in your iron striking. One of the things I’ve noticed is that my iron ball striking has improved quite a bit. Really crisp, centered, squared up.  Stock distances are now former max distances. 

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1 hour ago, jacustomgolf said:

Did anyone experience issues with their golf swing while using these?  I am about 3 weeks in and have developed a major swing issue and I am not sure if it is from this or the fact that I just do not practice any more. 

Yes for me, as described above.  I think I need to make sure I get some range time in to make sure I can keep the club (particularly driver) swing a good golf swing.

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28 minutes ago, L.I. Rich said:

Yes for me, as described above.  I think I need to make sure I get some range time in to make sure I can keep the club (particularly driver) swing a good golf swing.

Thank you all for the replies.  I am cutting across the ball resulting in pull hooks.  I believe this is from the speed sticks as I tend to swing more around my body as I do not want to hit the ground.  I am sure I will work it out.  I really enjoy the speed sticks though.

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Putter: Taylormade Spider
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1 hour ago, cnosil said:


I would probably say my irons were/are ahead of driver.

Same here. By a long margin as I've documented :-).

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