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Thanks for the welcome guys.
I finally got to do another session today at the range during my lunch. Speeds where around my usually speed 126 for green, 120 for blue and I managed to get the red up to 115.
I then decided to leave the swing speed radar out and hit some balls. I placed the radar slightly in front of the ball pointing backwards at a 45 degree angle. This was my first time attempting to hit balls with the radar.
Now, I'm not sure I was doing this right but I started out with my 8 iron and the speed reading was 85 mph which is around what I would expect.
I switched to my driver and I averaged 108 mph over 5 hits. The ball was carrying the small green which was 245 to the middle according to the distance chart in my bay so that looks legit and it wasn't measuring the ball speed.
I then tried my 3 hybrid which was 99 and my 3 wood was 105 on average. I went back to my driver and again I averaged 109 over 8 swings.
I'm now confused over my SS stick speeds as my green has only ever got to 129 as a max (I did have a 137 once which I discarded as a miss-read) and the red to 115. Things I've read says I should expect around 81% of the red speed but I'm getting close to 95% of that speed if I'm setting the radar up correctly. Maybe it's because I'm a fairly strong guy (can still deadlift 400lbs even when not training regularly), maybe it's just the way my body works or maybe I've not got the radar in the correct place for my SS swings? I set it up in the middle of my stance, pointing straight at me.
I guess all will be revealed when I set up another GC2 session soon as if this is correct I should see a decent jump in ball speed off my driver.


We saw this in our group and heard it from Daisy our SuperSpeed Rep. Everyone is different - I would not be overly concerned if your numbers didn’t match exactly what is “expected.”

We especially saw this right around the end of level 2 (when we wrote our stage 2 reviews). Some of us went through big jumps at that point others did not. (Theirs came a couple of weeks later)

You’re still relatively new - you will improve your speed technique with the sticks and that will translate to driver and other clubs.


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Reached the end of level 2 protocol today.  I did a couple of extra weeks of level 2 since I took a break due to some pain in my fingers, break didn't help but I kept moving forward.  Was able to get back to speeds back up to close to where I had been prior to stopping but the last couple of weeks the speeds were down a bit.   Since it was the end of a level,  I did a driver speed test and topped out at 117.   

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Reached the end of level 2 protocol today.  I did a couple of extra weeks of level 2 since I took a break due to some pain in my fingers, break didn't help but I kept moving forward.  Was able to get back to speeds back up to close to where I had been prior to stopping but the last couple of weeks the speeds were down a bit.   Since it was the end of a level,  I did a driver speed test and topped out at 117.   


Wow!


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9 minutes ago, revkev said:

 


Wow!


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That was my thought as well.   While that is way up there,  swinging for those speeds isn't something I would try in a normal round.  I think I would am more comfortable in the 110 range as a normal swing. 

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Reached the end of level 2 protocol today.  I did a couple of extra weeks of level 2 since I took a break due to some pain in my fingers, break didn't help but I kept moving forward.  Was able to get back to speeds back up to close to where I had been prior to stopping but the last couple of weeks the speeds were down a bit.   Since it was the end of a level,  I did a driver speed test and topped out at 117.   
That's impressive!

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10 hours ago, cnosil said:

Reached the end of level 2 protocol today.  I did a couple of extra weeks of level 2 since I took a break due to some pain in my fingers, break didn't help but I kept moving forward.  Was able to get back to speeds back up to close to where I had been prior to stopping but the last couple of weeks the speeds were down a bit.   Since it was the end of a level,  I did a driver speed test and topped out at 117.   

Very nice!  Keep up the good work!

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So I’m participating in a Cobra connect challenge with Bucky from here. Can’t wait - SuperSpeed has definitely gotten my groove back on - I’m just flat out longer - 230 may sound like nothing to many guys but down the middle in wet (no roll) conditions at Sea level - it’s a huge game changer for me.

I hit an 8 iron 155 under those conditions today too.


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So I’m participating in a Cobra connect challenge with Bucky from here. Can’t wait - SuperSpeed has definitely gotten my groove back on - I’m just flat out longer - 230 may sound like nothing to many guys but down the middle in wet (no roll) conditions at Sea level - it’s a huge game changer for me.

I hit an 8 iron 155 under those conditions today too.


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That’s certainly nothing to sneeze at!

I was out on a wet course and my first tee shot ended like this but super speed training still had me up to around my normal shot anyway!

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On 7/13/2019 at 4:09 PM, revkev said:

We saw this in our group and heard it from Daisy our SuperSpeed Rep. Everyone is different - I would not be overly concerned if your numbers didn’t match exactly what is “expected.”

We especially saw this right around the end of level 2 (when we wrote our stage 2 reviews). Some of us went through big jumps at that point others did not. (Theirs came a couple of weeks later)

You’re still relatively new - you will improve your speed technique with the sticks and that will translate to driver and other clubs.

 

Oh, I'm more than happy with my driver and club speeds, they have definitely improved. This weekend I hit a 285 yard drive right down the middle according to my Garmin, the hole is a 465 yard par 4 and I hit a driver and 7 iron into it. I've never done that before. It was early as well (around 9am) and the fairways aren't rock hard, it must have carried around 265 I would think.

Even miss-hits are carrying further. Near the end of the round I caught one right out the toe and sent it too far right, into the area I would normally not have the distance to carry unless I caught it flush. It carried the trees and landed in heavyish rough, so got no roll at all and my Garmin had it at 242 yards. I also caught one out the heel and it still went 250 yards including run out.

I was just confused as to how my driver speed is nearly the same as my red stick speed. I'm not complaining though, I'm see the results out on the course.

Definitely need to get back on the same GC2 this week as I was on in April to see the differences in actual numbers.

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On 7/14/2019 at 9:38 PM, revkev said:

So I’m participating in a Cobra connect challenge with Bucky from here. Can’t wait - SuperSpeed has definitely gotten my groove back on - I’m just flat out longer - 230 may sound like nothing to many guys but down the middle in wet (no roll) conditions at Sea level - it’s a huge game changer for me.

I hit an 8 iron 155 under those conditions today too.


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That's great Rev...given my age, size, and amount of golf I've played so far (probably around 50 rounds total), those are the kind of numbers I think I'm capable of as I get my swing to be more efficient over time.  Mostly what I need now is practice time, some lessons (not in the budget this year), and to keep playing.  And of course, keep up with my SS training.

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5 wood

This was a great driver pre SuperSpeed


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So I was warming up to do a session the other day and swung some 6 irons with the super speed radar....

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I’d loooovveee to believe that’s true, and I had some other swings in the mid 90’s, but that feels really fast to me.

I’m going to set it up at the range next time I go and see what sort of numbers I get then hitting balls as well.

A week into level 2 and the kneeling swings aren’t as bad as I was expecting. Actually had a few in the 94-95 range, I was expecting worse as I don’t feel like my shoulder range is great right now.

What are some of your numbers for kneeling vs max?


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So I was warming up to do a session the other day and swung some 6 irons with the super speed radar....

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I’d loooovveee to believe that’s true, and I had some other swings in the mid 90’s, but that feels really fast to me.

I’m going to set it up at the range next time I go and see what sort of numbers I get then hitting balls as well.

A week into level 2 and the kneeling swings aren’t as bad as I was expecting. Actually had a few in the 94-95 range, I was expecting worse as I don’t feel like my shoulder range is great right now.

What are some of your numbers for kneeling vs max?


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When I was doing it full time I was getting high 130s with the green standing then mid 100s kneeling. Blue and red were both below 100 kneeling but above 120 standing.

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When I was doing it full time I was getting high 130s with the green standing then mid 100s kneeling. Blue and red were both below 100 kneeling but above 120 standing.

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I have dreams about high 130s. Haha 126 still the max so far. More work to be done!


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19 hours ago, B.Boston said:


What are some of your numbers for kneeling vs max?

 

I did a session today and took down my kneeling vs standing:

Green:  right:  130 standing,  108 kneeling,
              left:   120,  102

Blue:  119, 104
           110, 99

Red:  113, 100
           108, 91

 

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I did a session today and took down my kneeling vs standing:
Green:  right:  130 standing,  108 kneeling,
              left:   120,  102
Blue:  119, 104
           110, 99
Red:  113, 100
           108, 91
 


Thanks! That’s what I was hoping to see. You guys got any shortcuts for getting to 130?! Haha


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16 hours ago, B.Boston said:

 


Thanks! That’s what I was hoping to see. You guys got any shortcuts for getting to 130?! Haha


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Swing faster? 😉

I'm sure it will come when you are done with the kneeling swing. I'm going to start my kneeling ones on Monday.

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Swing faster? 
I'm sure it will come when you are done with the kneeling swing. I'm going to start my kneeling ones on Monday.

Kneeling swings go on for a long time. I just started protocol 3 and still have to do kneeling. I was hoping that I would be done; summer has taken its toll on the grass and kneeling is a little more uncomfortable.
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Swing faster? 
I'm sure it will come when you are done with the kneeling swing. I'm going to start my kneeling ones on Monday.


I’ll give that a try!


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Lengthy post incoming...

OK, managed to get back to the exact same GC2 monitor that I hit on back in March. The results were both positive and negative.

Ignore club names as I was just selecting anything on the screen at the time to give me difference colours, the GC2 guesses club head speed anyway so I was only interested in the ball data.

Numbers from March when I had my driver set at 9.25 degrees in draw position with a TaylorMade Project(a) ball.

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My first hits where with the Project(a) ball again but I've got my driver at 10.5 degrees just now in Fade since I was trying to play a fade as I've been coming over the top lately. When not in Fade setting my misses have been big pulls left.

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Positive is the big 5mph increase in ball speed, not bad for 6 weeks! Negatives are the huge jump in spin that means I'm not gaining anything really and I'm off the planet right when I leave the face open.

In true MyGolfSpy fashion I then switched to my current ball the Bridgestone Tour B X to see if that produced any more speed (it should going by the MyGolfSpy ball test).

I hit 4 shots with the driver in the same setting before lowering it to 9.75 and switching to the Draw setting again.

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Ball speed up nearly 7mph now, I guess the ball testing was accurate as the Bridgestone has given me another 2mph.

From these results it's obvious that a few things are happening...

1. I'm hitting down on the ball with my driver instead if hitting up. This is probably because I've been trying to steepen my backswing but I'm not shallowing out enough on the downswing. When I swing with a shallower backswing I have big pulls left with both irons and driver as a miss. This more upright backswing has helped my irons a lot but it may be hurting my driver.

2. If I keep swinging as I am just now I need to lower my current driver loft to 9 degrees but this is opening the face up even more. If I do that I'll need to make sure I get better club face control but I'm worried I won't be able to control it and start slicing massively.

3. Superspeed works, there is no doubt about it in my mind.

Next step is probably to go get a lesson from a local pro who has a Trackman to see if I can retain this speed but adjust my angle of attack to hit up. If I can do that I should be seeing carries into the 260 range.

 If that fails, I guess it's time for a driver fitting as I think I would benefit from a 9 degree driver rather than the 10.5 one I have currently. Plus, it's a 2016 M1 driver I'm hitting, I need an excuse to replace it. 😀

tl;dr Superspeed works.

 

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