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Thought I would provide a quick update on my status.  After breaking my SwingSpeed radar I decided to try out SuperSpeed's newly sponsored radar the PRGR Black Pocket Launch Monitor.

The good:

  • it's small
  • it's light
  • you don't have to have it as close to your swing for shots to register

The bad:

  • Speeds were very inconsistent
  • My top training speeds were showing 20mph slower than the SwingSpeed radar
  • It's $200
  • The radar would randomly show ball speed and carry distance even though I wasn't hitting a ball

I checked in with the good folks at SuperSpeed and they said they haven't heard of anyone else having those issues.  I'm thinking it may be from training in my basement and not having a ton of room to use the device as it's intended (outdoor monitor placed behind you).  They offered to send a replacement out but I'm going to return it and find a SwingSpeed radar online.

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Driver: :cobra-small: F9 10.5°, Fujikura Ventus Blue 6X
Fairway Wood:  :cobra-small: F9, Fujikura ATMOS TS Black 7X
3 Hybrid: :cobra-small:F9, N.S. Pro Modus3 G.O.S.T. Tour S
4 Hybrid: :cobra-small:F9, Fujikura ATMOS 7 Stiff
5-PW: :mizuno-small: JPX 919 Forged, KBS Tour Stiff
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Putter: :EVNROLL: ER5B

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On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2020 at 9:02 PM, Kenny B said:

Every time I read about the SuperSpeed C, I keep seeing in my mind...    

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Why didn't they come up with another name!!!

 

Chunks a lot is probably not aware of the back story to this. 🙂

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I started my level two protocol this week and it's been interesting to see the differences in speed between the various positions.   My normal swing setup is the fastest, and the kneeling and step change are almost the same.  If I had guessed before starting any of the training I probably would have thought the step change would be a faster speed. Hopefully this info will help me determine where I generate the most speed or which area needs more work in order to create it.    I'm trying to remind myself each session that level two might be a two month plateau period with no gains at all so as not to get discouraged.

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I started my level two protocol this week and it's been interesting to see the differences in speed between the various positions.   My normal swing setup is the fastest, and the kneeling and step change are almost the same.  If I had guessed before starting any of the training I probably would have thought the step change would be a faster speed. Hopefully this info will help me determine where I generate the most speed or which area needs more work in order to create it.    I'm trying to remind myself each session that level two might be a two month plateau period with no gains at all so as not to get discouraged.


If I remember correctly we wrote our reviews right at the end of level 2. Some of us had a 2nd jump and some didn’t. My level 2 jump came the second to last workout. I had to rewrite parts of the review because of it. My second jump was bigger than my first but I lost all of that jump when i stopped the workouts - gradually. I’m back where I was during level 2 again pre jump.

The guys who didn’t see a jump at the end of level 2 did early on in level 3. So hang in there.


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Three sessions with the new SuperSpeed-C club are done. Right now, it's still trending up to 10 MPH faster than my green club. I did not get an answer from SuperSpeed on Twitter as to how the club should compare to normal driver speed or speed with the other sticks:

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I am doing an every-other approach to training, rotating between my normal sticks and the C club. Right now I'm done with 10 sessions of the second protocol with the normal sticks (of 24 sessions total) and, as I mentioned above, three sessions of the first protocol for the C club (of 18 sessions total).

On course progress remains to be evaluated. I played my first round of the year last weekend and had drives of 272, 285 and 292 yards, albeit on some very hard/frozen fairways. I'm taking those numbers with a grain of salt because between the fairways and the wind, I have no concrete idea of my distances with regular, non-range balls in decent conditions (for example, I hit a 7-iron 200+ and a 185-yard 8-iron during the round between the wind and hard ground). I won't be playing regularly for at least another six weeks.

I do loosely measure my "dry" driver swings with an old 44.5" Cobra AMP driver I have to play with. Last year, I would have been very happy to break 110 on the swing speed radar with my dry swings. After my SuperSpeed C workout tonight, I took three swings and recorded speeds of 118, 119, and 121. That's a big jump since last winter.

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Driver: :cobra-small: Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme (9°, set to Draw), 44.5", Aldila Rogue Silver 60 (110 MSI) Stiff, Lamkin Sonar Connect
3W: :cobra-small: Cobra SpeedZone (15°), -3/4" SHORT, Aldila Rogue Silver 70 (110 MSI) Stiff, Lamkin Sonar Connect
17° Hybrid: :cobra-small: Cobra SpeedZone, -1/2" SHORT, UST Recoil 480 ESX F4, Lamkin Sonar Connect
4-GW: :cobra-small: Cobra SpeedZone, 2° Flat, -1/2" SHORT, KBS C-Taper Lite 115 X-Stiff, Lamkin Sonar Connect
54°, 58°: :cobra-small: Cobra KING MIM Black, 3° Flat, -1/2" SHORT (54°), -1/4" SHORT (58°), KBS C-Taper Lite 115 X-Stiff, Lamkin Sonar Connect
Putter: :taylormade-small: TaylorMade Spider X, 33", Golf Pride Tour Only Red Star
Ball: :Snell:Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow / :srixon-small: Srixon Z-Star XV Tour Yellow
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I've had an interesting couple of weeks as far as an attempt to get my third week of being back on the SuperSpeed train, one of which involved an injury playing a board game. Plus the weather hasn't cooperated in a while.

Today was week 3, day 1, for the third time.

I will say, for two of the three weeks I was able to get out and at least do a maintenance session to keep things from dropping off, with the exception of the week I was hurt. I'd rather be safe than sorry with this training.

What happened was, we had gone to have dinner with friends and after the food we decided to play Yahtzee. Our friends have bar height chairs and I was sitting there when all of a sudden a muscle in my inner thigh decided it had enough. The cramping was horrible and I honestly yelped. I hate getting older in some respects. I mean, why couldn't it have been while doing something cool and not sitting around?

Today was a good day and I feel I'm getting the feeling for swinging faster back. I started out with a high speed of 106 during regular swings, 112 doing the step change, and ended with 117 doing the last 3.
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Plus, I scared up two deer in the woods behind the house.

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I've had an interesting couple of weeks as far as an attempt to get my third week of being back on the SuperSpeed train, one of which involved an injury playing a board game. Plus the weather hasn't cooperated in a while.

Today was week 3, day 1, for the third time.

I will say, for two of the three weeks I was able to get out and at least do a maintenance session to keep things from dropping off, with the exception of the week I was hurt. I'd rather be safe than sorry with this training.

What happened was, we had gone to have dinner with friends and after the food we decided to play Yahtzee. Our friends have bar height chairs and I was sitting there when all of a sudden a muscle in my inner thigh decided it had enough. The cramping was horrible and I honestly yelped. I hate getting older in some respects. I mean, why couldn't it have been while doing something cool and not sitting around?

Today was a good day and I feel I'm getting the feeling for swinging faster back. I started out with a high speed of 106 during regular swings, 112 doing the step change, and ended with 117 doing the last 3.
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Plus, I scared up two deer in the woods behind the house.

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Yahtzee? I thought it would be twister for certain


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Yahtzee? I thought it would be twister for certain

 

 

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Must have gotten too aggressive shakin those dice!!!! only needed one more number for a Yahtzee.

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I read that it is recommended to do the training in the morning for neurological reasons but I'm simply not a morning person and my schedule is too tight before work.   Now I'm doing it after work and already I find it easier.  My energy and flexibility are both better and my swing speeds are slightly faster.  I'm also happy to see some increased distance already after only completing the level one protocol.   My skytrak has been almost spot on with data since I got it and I've noticed a 5-7 yard increase in most of my irons. unfortunately   It seems to have inconsistencies with a driver.  My ave carry is 250 yards and skytrak often displays something closer to  225 even though ball speed, launch and spin are accurate .  The courses here in MA are just opening and I can't wait to see some real world results. 

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I read that it is recommended to do the training in the morning for neurological reasons but I'm simply not a morning person and my schedule is too tight before work.   Now I'm doing it after work and already I find it easier.  My energy and flexibility are both better and my swing speeds are slightly faster.  I'm also happy to see some increased distance already after only completing the level one protocol.   My skytrak has been almost spot on with data since I got it and I've noticed a 5-7 yard increase in most of my irons. unfortunately   It seems to have inconsistencies with a driver.  My ave carry is 250 yards and skytrak often displays something closer to  225 even though ball speed, launch and spin are accurate .  The courses here in MA are just opening and I can't wait to see some real world results. 

 

I write in the morning but athletically I’m an afternoon/evening guy - my speeds were always better in the afternoon and Daisy, our SuperSpeed liaison, told us that we should workout when we swing fastest. All of us our wound differently.

 

BTW my speeds were great this afternoon. Based on the on course stuff and today’s workout I’ve had that first jump again. :)

 

 

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I ended up ordering the SuperSpeed-C club a few days ago.  With being stuck indoors for work and all Wisconsin schools closed for the next three weeks the timing ended up working out perfectly (unless I hit one of my kids swinging; then not so much).

I completed my first Counterweight training session earlier this morning.  Overall the speeds with the C club are a little higher than what I was seeing with the Green club.  My max speed with it in the first training session was 145 versus an all time max of 144 with the green club.

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And yes, I bought a new SwingSpeed radar after breaking my old one and not having much luck with the PRGR radar.  Found a used one for under $100 on eBay.

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Driver: :cobra-small: F9 10.5°, Fujikura Ventus Blue 6X
Fairway Wood:  :cobra-small: F9, Fujikura ATMOS TS Black 7X
3 Hybrid: :cobra-small:F9, N.S. Pro Modus3 G.O.S.T. Tour S
4 Hybrid: :cobra-small:F9, Fujikura ATMOS 7 Stiff
5-PW: :mizuno-small: JPX 919 Forged, KBS Tour Stiff
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I ended up ordering the SuperSpeed-C club a few days ago.  With being stuck indoors for work and all Wisconsin schools closed for the next three weeks the timing ended up working out perfectly (unless I hit one of my kids swinging; then not so much).
I completed my first Counterweight training session earlier this morning.  Overall the speeds with the C club are a little higher than what I was seeing with the Green club.  My max speed with it in the first training session was 145 versus an all time max of 144 with the green club.
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And yes, I bought a new SwingSpeed radar after breaking my old one and not having much luck with the PRGR radar.  Found a used one for under $100 on eBay.
That's some pretty impressive speed! I'm glad it came in and it'll give you something to occupy a little of your time and hopefully keep the stir craziness down.

I can honestly say, I haven't yet done the research on the C club, how much does it weigh in relation to the other sticks? Right now I'm assuming it's around the green based on your post.

Have fun with it and enjoy the extra time with the kiddos!

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16 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:

That's some pretty impressive speed! I'm glad it came in and it'll give you something to occupy a little of your time and hopefully keep the stir craziness down.

I can honestly say, I haven't yet done the research on the C club, how much does it weigh in relation to the other sticks? Right now I'm assuming it's around the green based on your post.

Have fun with it and enjoy the extra time with the kiddos!

From a quick check on my cheap kitchen scale this is what each club came in at:

Green: 260 grams
Blue: 298
Counterweight: 307
Red: 343
Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero with Ventus 60g shaft: 325g

I'm actually pretty surprised that it came in between the Blue and the Red sticks.  Feel wise it swings like the lightest club of the bunch since a good portion of the weight is in the butt end of the grip.  I'm very interested to see how this all pans out.

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3 Hybrid: :cobra-small:F9, N.S. Pro Modus3 G.O.S.T. Tour S
4 Hybrid: :cobra-small:F9, Fujikura ATMOS 7 Stiff
5-PW: :mizuno-small: JPX 919 Forged, KBS Tour Stiff
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I appreciate you checking in to that and for the information. I think it's going to be interesting to see how adding this training to the normal SuperSpeed regimen will affect your distance.



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2 hours ago, Bucky CC said:

I ended up ordering the SuperSpeed-C club a few days ago.  With being stuck indoors for work and all Wisconsin schools closed for the next three weeks the timing ended up working out perfectly (unless I hit one of my kids swinging; then not so much).

I completed my first Counterweight training session earlier this morning.  Overall the speeds with the C club are a little higher than what I was seeing with the Green club.  My max speed with it in the first training session was 145 versus an all time max of 144 with the green club.

145.jpg.ba3e5fb92e375979cbba705794782dc5.jpg

And yes, I bought a new SwingSpeed radar after breaking my old one and not having much luck with the PRGR radar.  Found a used one for under $100 on eBay.

I too could not resist the C club given my success with the Superspeed protocol. I am about 8 mph faster than my green stick with the C club. No idea what this translates to in the real world, but I thought I would give you my results. 

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I did not get an answer from SuperSpeed on Twitter as to how the C club numbers should fit into the other sticks or driver. But I am right along with you two - I'm usually about 5-10 MPH faster with the C club than my green club.

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Driver: :cobra-small: Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme (9°, set to Draw), 44.5", Aldila Rogue Silver 60 (110 MSI) Stiff, Lamkin Sonar Connect
3W: :cobra-small: Cobra SpeedZone (15°), -3/4" SHORT, Aldila Rogue Silver 70 (110 MSI) Stiff, Lamkin Sonar Connect
17° Hybrid: :cobra-small: Cobra SpeedZone, -1/2" SHORT, UST Recoil 480 ESX F4, Lamkin Sonar Connect
4-GW: :cobra-small: Cobra SpeedZone, 2° Flat, -1/2" SHORT, KBS C-Taper Lite 115 X-Stiff, Lamkin Sonar Connect
54°, 58°: :cobra-small: Cobra KING MIM Black, 3° Flat, -1/2" SHORT (54°), -1/4" SHORT (58°), KBS C-Taper Lite 115 X-Stiff, Lamkin Sonar Connect
Putter: :taylormade-small: TaylorMade Spider X, 33", Golf Pride Tour Only Red Star
Ball: :Snell:Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow / :srixon-small: Srixon Z-Star XV Tour Yellow
Tracked By: :Arccos: Cobra Connect powered by Arccos
Bag: :1590477705_SunMountain: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync
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On 3/10/2020 at 7:17 PM, sirchunksalot said:

Twister might have put me in the hospital. emoji16.png

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Thanks for the explanation. I was trying to figure out what full contact checkers would look like. Or full contact Yahtzee. I can see that.

I get the cramp piece. Two years ago after walking a hilly 18 holes I got dehydrated and the adductor cramp caused me to pass out. SWMBO thought I had a heart attack and called 911. I wound up with an ambulance ride to the hostitute. It was disappointing-I couldn't persuade them to use the siren. 

On a somewhat related note, Covid-19 has shutdown the Sportsplex. Yesterday this had me on the back porch swinging the Speedstix in -2* C weather. The things I'll do for golf.

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On 3/1/2020 at 9:15 AM, Pug said:

There’s a story involving the SS and the law of unintended consequences that I want to share.

I have been fortunate that the gym facility I use has allowed me to use the SS in one of the workout rooms. It happens to be the space with the heavy bags, speed bags, battle ropes and some other gear for the martial arts types to train on. I show up with my skinny little butt and start with the SS stretches and not much happens. Then the magic stix come out and the sound alone garners a lot of attention and usually a couple of questions. Tim, a big guy in his forty’s is one of the trainers and usually works with the body builder crowd. He had spied the SS when I first brought them to the gym and asked me about them. So I told them what they were all about, the stretching routine and protocols and also mentioned that I used them as part of my cardio work out. That piqued his interest. I can get my heart rate up to 92-95% of my theoretical maximum but I do more reps to get there. Yeah I know, it’s more than the protocols call for and the risk is that if you do run out of gas your going to train your body to swing slower. 

Back to the story. Tim mentioned he was doing physical therapy with a golfer and told me he would buy a set to use with the client.

I bumped into him last week while carrying the SS and we had a chat. He described how his client had a number of mobility issues. The client couldn’t rotate far enough to be able to lift the club head passed waist height on the backs swing. Tim adapted the SS as a mobility tool. He started the client lying on his back, knees bent, feet flat on the floor, rotating the SS using the arms and shoulders in a slow motion golf swing above his chest. They worked through each level of SS, then progressed to using the SS while sitting, then kneeling and finally while standing. Tim said his client has achieved a full range of motion with his golf swing. He was so impressed with the dedication and progress made by his client he gave the client the SS as a reward. I was surprised by his generosity, and he quickly added that he had already ordered another set to add to the physio equipment arsenal. 

So I suppose this is another example of the law of unintended consequences. I take the SS to the gym as part of my own mobility rehab and another golfer gets a set as a gift to recognize his own hard work to rehab his swing. Tim is also an occasional golfer and more importantly a good man. Just to prove that no good deed goes unpunished he is going to be invited to play with the Black Hole Gang this summer. Tim’s a bomber. Should be fun.

 

 

 

Just an update since so many of us are looking for something to keep us busy while Covid-19 runs its course. I ran into Tim just before the Sportsplex closed, extended the invitation to play with the BHG, and he is in 🏌️♂️

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Decided to use all of the current down time to get get back on the SuperSpeed train... at least until I got too close to the monitor and destroyed it. Was swinging the blue club around 120MPH right before it happened so... it's toast lol. Guess I'll be looking to purchase another one at some point, just not sure how soon I want to do that...

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