Kor.A.Door Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 Revolution golf is going to be in big trouble for that I think. Well that was disappointing, I am not interested in the Cortex at all. Saves me from wanting something new. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehuti Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I was going to say the same thing!Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyYes I saw that too!Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk PXG 0211 12° driver w/Project X Cypher R flex shaft KE4 TC 16° 4 wood w/Kuro Kage Black 60g shaft KE4 TC HyWay 21° utilitywood w/Maltby MPF shaft KE4 TC 22° 4 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft KE4 TC 25° 5 hybrid w/Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue shaft Lazrus 27° 6 hybrid w/Lazrus graphite shaft PXG 0211DC irons 7-PW w/Project X Cypher graphite shafts CBX2 50° wedge M-Series+ 56° wedge w/UST Recoil 660 graphite shaft Infinite Bean putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Revolution golf is going to be in big trouble for that I think. Well that was disappointing, I am not interested in the Cortex at all. Saves me from wanting something new. I am the opposite. I was hoping for the cortex. Deeper face and similar to a blacked out M family. I never got along with the white/grey and black crowns for some reason. Can’t wait to give it a try. Wilson didn’t skimp on the stock shaft using the atmos tour spec either. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I just got an email saying Cortex won.... FROM WILSON! Sheesh.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Hopefully this knocks the C300 driver down a few bucks as well Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 ... I thought my home looked great in this last episode. I am not sure there is a better big city than Chicago in the summertime. From the lake, to the river running through the amazing buildings and architecture downtown and sooooo many great golf courses. To be honest, I am not sure there is a worse big city in the dead of winter LOL. The judges made their final decision at Harborside, a fun links style course with beautiful views and a fun place to play. Really enjoyable episode. Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 How awesome was the extra piece where Wilson paid for Tim's last year of school and offered him a job? That was just as cool as the final decision. Sent from my VS985 4G using MyGolfSpy mobile app PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 How awesome was the extra piece where Wilson paid for Tim's last year of school and offered him a job? That was just as cool as the final decision. Sent from my VS985 4G using MyGolfSpy mobile appGood humans right there. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Only prob was there was a pop up ad at the bottom of the screen from Revolution Golf(Golf Channel) just 3 minutes before the final announcement that said the Cortex was available now. Whoever made the decision at Golf Channel to insert the pop up, should be fired. It was a total spoiler after watching all season.Wilson gets an A, Golf Channel gets an F.Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I was texting and watching when the last segment started and totally missed the pop up ad. Saw some comments on Twitter and had to check the DVR - mercy what a gaffe by Golf Channel! I read a comment somewhere - I think it was in the blog comments - along the lines of who would buy a driver designed by an amateur. Two things... 1. Evan is a professional industrial designer, meaning he does stuff like this for a living. Tim is an engineering student - so these guys have some chops. 2 - and more importantly, once the basic ideas were in, Wilson's R&D team did a lot of the guiding and heavy lifting. The biggest problem with the Magnus was the kid wouldn't listen to the experts when it came to advice, ideas, etc. The fact he made it to the final three is, in fact, kind of remarkable. What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightsofnii Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I totally missed the banner on the bottom but saw all the comments about it after the show. I wasnt a fan of Cortex, because it was totally not unique at all. But, it is loaded with the features that work and have been time proven, like weights that can move the CG around, maybe even more than 4mm!! RADspeed 10.5, Evenflow Riptide CB 6.0s Bio Cell 3/4w, PXV 6.0s; AMP 3h 19deg Aldila RIP R. Bio Cell 4h 22.5deg PXV R. 2021/22 T200 5-7, T100 8-P (bent 1deg strong), LZ 5.5 CBX-2 50/11 ATV 56/16deg Impact No.3 Align putter Caddie for tracking. Pro V1X balls Previous forum tests: 2019: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus 4 grips, Lynx Black Cat 5-PW. 2020: LX5 Watch. 2021: Impact #3 Align putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Har in the Hat Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I saw the Cortex driver advertised for sale last night on Golftown. What's in my Mizuno BR-D2 bag OFFICIAL TESTER FOR THE PING i500 CLUBS. Currently playing Ping i500 w/ Alta CB graphite shafts MP 25 - fitted w/ Project X shafts - stiff 60 / 56 52 910 D2 driver - 9.5 degree -fitted13 F 3 wood 13.5 deg CPR 3 hybrid Method mallet Dexterity: I shoot left-handed so no one can ask me "Hey, can I try that club?" Twitter @GolfingHat Instagram @Mizunostixgolfnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I was really hoping the Cortex would have won last night. I can understand why Wilson changed the crown to a carbon construction, but I am a little disappointed. I hope that we can see the Trabecular tech in the future after Tim starts working for Wilson. With that said, I still can't wait to hit the Cortex. Did anyone else catch the Wilson Pres saying that the Cortex has produced better numbers than driver Wilson Staff had made before? Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I really like that Wilson offers the 12º option. Don't understand the upright 58º lie angle, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I am approaching this with an open mind. Fuji Atmos shaft, the educated golf world watching. I believed that $399 was the mark here so we’ll see how it goes. I remember selling the Deep Red driver when folks would walk in wanting a Cleveland Launcher or a TM r580. After a few swings the Wilson won nearly 7/10 times. Looking forward to how this holds up during MGS testing. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 ... I have already said that I am a Wilson golf fan. I enjoyed the show. I just don't understand the results. Other forums are gonna say the Cortex is a TM rip off. It isn't of course, but it does resemble the M3 (and others) with some added heel toe weights in only 2gm and 8gm that will have very little effect if any, for the average golfer. It looks great at address and performance seems to be very good, although saying it is the best Wilson Staff driver has ever tested does not tell us how it compares to the Rogue, M3/4 or even the F8. All of this can be overcome with great reviews and some buzz from word of mouth. ... But the killer for me is the price. $399 seems like the starting point but even pricing it at $449 might mean some may test it compared to others at $499. I get the argument that if you price it below the established drivers selling for $499 you may be sending the message that it isn't as good. I would hate to be a VP in Marketing/Sales and have to make that call. But the bottom line is Wilson has to do something really different to get the attention of buyers that have traditionally never bought a Wilson driver and I just don't think there is anything about this driver that does that. At least the Roswell with the very unique Z Track and Trabecular Tech would have been something really different if they could have found a way to increase the performance. I hope I am wrong and I will test the Cortex and maybe I will become one of those spreading some buzz. But honestly the Cobra F9 looks much more impressive with the same Atmos shaft. Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightsofnii Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I'd love to see more numbers. Mygolfspy has tons of data showing most all drivers' CG exists within a 1.5cm cube; that includes adjustable weight drivers. So, how far can we adjust the CG of this Cortex, and where does it compare with others? Time will tell. I'm going to wager it can move the cg 4mm from its neutral position. Cool show. As always, these reality things all have similar structures, but I think it was done well. Congrats to everyone who even made it to the first episode. Pretty cool!! RADspeed 10.5, Evenflow Riptide CB 6.0s Bio Cell 3/4w, PXV 6.0s; AMP 3h 19deg Aldila RIP R. Bio Cell 4h 22.5deg PXV R. 2021/22 T200 5-7, T100 8-P (bent 1deg strong), LZ 5.5 CBX-2 50/11 ATV 56/16deg Impact No.3 Align putter Caddie for tracking. Pro V1X balls Previous forum tests: 2019: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus 4 grips, Lynx Black Cat 5-PW. 2020: LX5 Watch. 2021: Impact #3 Align putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 ... I have already said that I am a Wilson golf fan. I enjoyed the show. I just don't understand the results. Other forums are gonna say the Cortex is a TM rip off. It isn't of course, but it does resemble the M3 (and others) with some added heel toe weights in only 2gm and 8gm that will have very little effect if any, for the average golfer. It looks great at address and performance seems to be very good, although saying it is the best Wilson Staff driver has ever tested does not tell us how it compares to the Rogue, M3/4 or even the F8. All of this can be overcome with great reviews and some buzz from word of mouth. ... But the killer for me is the price. $399 seems like the starting point but even pricing it at $449 might mean some may test it compared to others at $499. I get the argument that if you price it below the established drivers selling for $499 you may be sending the message that it isn't as good. I would hate to be a VP in Marketing/Sales and have to make that call. But the bottom line is Wilson has to do something really different to get the attention of buyers that have traditionally never bought a Wilson driver and I just don't think there is anything about this driver that does that. At least the Roswell with the very unique Z Track and Trabecular Tech would have been something really different if they could have found a way to increase the performance. I hope I am wrong and I will test the Cortex and maybe I will become one of those spreading some buzz. But honestly the Cobra F9 looks much more impressive with the same Atmos shaft. From a marketing standpoint I believe that the Cortex has the better initial first impression. Wilson needed a driver that would give a buyer more reasons to say yes than no. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 ... And there it is Ben. I feel 100% opposite. You and I are golfers and buyers so we are the target audience and we feel completely opposite about these two drivers. The Z Track would have my attention but the front to back sliding track does not, as I have seen that for years now. Nothing about the Cortex captures my attention other than watching the show and seeing it's excellent performance, especially on mishits. The majority of buyers will not have that experience. Just shows that Marketing is really a tough job. Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 34 minutes ago, chisag said: ... I have already said that I am a Wilson golf fan. I enjoyed the show. I just don't understand the results. Other forums are gonna say the Cortex is a TM rip off. It isn't of course, but it does resemble the M3 (and others) with some added heel toe weights in only 2gm and 8gm that will have very little effect if any, for the average golfer. It looks great at address and performance seems to be very good, although saying it is the best Wilson Staff driver has ever tested does not tell us how it compares to the Rogue, M3/4 or even the F8. All of this can be overcome with great reviews and some buzz from word of mouth. ... But the killer for me is the price. $399 seems like the starting point but even pricing it at $449 might mean some may test it compared to others at $499. I get the argument that if you price it below the established drivers selling for $499 you may be sending the message that it isn't as good. I would hate to be a VP in Marketing/Sales and have to make that call. But the bottom line is Wilson has to do something really different to get the attention of buyers that have traditionally never bought a Wilson driver and I just don't think there is anything about this driver that does that. At least the Roswell with the very unique Z Track and Trabecular Tech would have been something really different if they could have found a way to increase the performance. I hope I am wrong and I will test the Cortex and maybe I will become one of those spreading some buzz. But honestly the Cobra F9 looks much more impressive with the same Atmos shaft. That white Atmos shaft would be a non-starter for me. Visuals affected me. I would guess that Fjikura's Vista Pro 65 might work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 . I hope that we can see the Trabecular tech in the future after Tim starts working for Wilson. Going to work for Nike:https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/sports/college/oregon-state/2018/11/13/salem-man-falls-short-250-000-prize-driver-vs-driver-2/1934799002/ Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 ... And there it is Ben. I feel 100% opposite. You and I are golfers and buyers so we are the target audience and we feel completely opposite about these two drivers. The Z Track would have my attention but the front to back sliding track does not, as I have seen that for years now. Nothing about the Cortex captures my attention other than watching the show and seeing it's excellent performance, especially on mishits. The majority of buyers will not have that experience. Just shows that Marketing is really a tough job. It’s super tough! I completely agree with you that the Rozwell has better tech and a better first impression. Yet, here we are as MGS guys, better informed golfers and buyers. I’m speaking as a vendor (which I did not specify) in my original comment. The average golfer, the guy who says “Wowzers Chip! Looks like a VW on a stick!” That guy who already has his mind made up on the TM M4. In their mind, Wilson is a Walmart brand and the Infiniti helix looks like a gimmick. The Cortex weights, shape and design. Now that looks like what the pros are using. Does that make sense? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, bens197 said: It’s super tough! I completely agree with you that the Rozwell has better tech and a better first impression. Yet, here we are as MGS guys, better informed golfers and buyers. I’m speaking as a vendor (which I did not specify) in my original comment. The average golfer, the guy who says “Wowzers Chip! Looks like a VW on a stick!” That guy who already has his mind made up on the TM M4. In their mind, Wilson is a Walmart brand and the Infiniti helix looks like a gimmick. The Cortex weights, shape and design. Now that looks like what the pros are using. Does that make sense? .... Makes perfect sense! I have seen it both ways. I did a review of what I thought might have been the best CB irons ever produced quite a few years ago when Bridgestone released their J33CB's. Very soft feel, perfect size and shape and a very subdued cavity with excellent performance. But Bridgestone got the feedback that they had no shelf appeal and needed some BLING! So they released the J36 with black and blue accents and a big B badge. Feedback was wrong colors, not enough color and too much color in the cavity. They couldn't win and their Marketing Director told me that was the last time they tried to appease stores and would do their own in house research and produce what they felt was the best look for their irons and have been pretty subtle with their players irons since. Predicting what golfers like must be maddening in todays polarization of we want MORE bling and we want LESS bling. I have heard some younger players not play a driver that performed because of the head cover!?! ... And Wilson is between a rock and a hard place as older players remember their status in the golf world but lost track as they did go the Walmart route as you stated. And younger players only think of them only as a Walmart brand. They have a tough road to hoe but I am pulling for them. Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txgolfjunkie Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I'm not in marketing, but as an avid golfer and young enough to still venture on social media daily, I think Wilson needs to find ways to get their clubs into the hands of influential golfers/social media personnel to compare the Cortex with their existing gamer. I know it's a risky move but people want to see it's better than x driver before even attempting to swing it. TaylorMade does a great job of this with pros hitting their latest and greatest and recording their initial reaction. Same with Ping and some of the forged wedges commercials. Heck even Titleist is posting pics of TS testing results. Rick Sheils is a great start but they need to go put this Cortex in the hands of NoLayingUp, BryanGolf, etc. and let these folks help you get the word out. Post results from trackman sessions. Let the people give honest feedback. Sure, that could destroy your product just as much as it could help it, but at some point, you've either got to sh*t or get off the pot. Cobra Connect 5 Competitor - Team Chad King Radspeed 10.5* w/ Hzrdus RDX Blue 60 6.5 tipped 1/2" - Peacoat/Red King Radspeed Big Tour 3 Wood w/ Hzrdus RDX Blue 70 6.5 Tipped 1/2" King Radspeed Tour 5 Wood w/ Motore X F1 70 X Flex King Utility 4 21* w/ Tensei Pro White 100 X Flex King Tour MIM Copper Irons 5-G w/ AMT White X100 Onyx King MIM Black Wedges 55* & 60* w/ AMT White X100 Onyx Spider SR Pro V1x Left Dash Lefty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0808 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 The Revolution Golf ad I saw and it did really spoil the moment as a viewer. That being said I think Wilson got it right this year vs the original as far as a production stand point. I thought the show was much better put together. The winning design the Cortex looks like a winner. I know many are saying that it looks like a M series or like another big OEM. It is really a double edged sword. If they go with a design that performs and looks a little bit different in order to create a buzz they will not be able to sell in store. They went with a design that looked great and performed, but does not really stand out as a unique design. I actually think that will help it to sell better than the Triton. In my bag: Driver: Rogue ST Triple Diamond LS 10.5* (set to 9.5) UST Lin-Q Gunmetal 6f5 Wood: Tsi2 15* Project X RDX Black 70 6.5 Hybrids: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX Irons: Cobra King Tour MIM 4-PW Dynamic Gold 120 X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 3 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400 Putter: Nashville Z1C 34" Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 .... Makes perfect sense! I have seen it both ways. I did a review of what I thought might have been the best CB irons ever produced quite a few years ago when Bridgestone released their J33CB's. Very soft feel, perfect size and shape and a very subdued cavity with excellent performance. But Bridgestone got the feedback that they had no shelf appeal and needed some BLING! So they released the J36 with black and blue accents and a big B badge. Feedback was wrong colors, not enough color and too much color in the cavity. They couldn't win and their Marketing Director told me that was the last time they tried to appease stores and would do their own in house research and produce what they felt was the best look for their irons and have been pretty subtle with their players irons since. Predicting what golfers like must be maddening in todays polarization of we want MORE bling and we want LESS bling. I have heard some younger players not play a driver that performed because of the head cover!?! ... And Wilson is between a rock and a hard place as older players remember their status in the golf world but lost track as they did go the Walmart route as you stated. And younger players only think of them only as a Walmart brand. They have a tough road to hoe but I am pulling for them. Oh...you mean the guys who buy wedges based solely upon the look of the back flange so they can stamp letters on it!? Madness Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, NiftyNiblick said: That white Atmos shaft would be a non-starter for me. Visuals affected me. I would guess that Fjikura's Vista Pro 65 might work. ... Bite off your nose to spite your face Nifty? I get the sentiment as I too really disliked white shafts when they were introduced because I found them distracting and didn't play one for quite awhile. But I kept an open mind and IF I ever found one that was better than what I was playing I would game it. That scenario manifested itself with the Rogue Black Tour shaft as it out performed everything and was the best feeling shaft I had ever hit. If you play this game to be the best you can be, it is a no brainer to play the best performing and feeling shaft even if it is bright orange and purple (although hopefully nobody produces an excellent shaft in those colors ) Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, chisag said: ... Bite off your nose to spite your face Nifty? I get the sentiment as I too really disliked white shafts when they were introduced because I found them distracting and didn't play one for quite awhile. But I kept an open mind and IF I ever found one that was better than what I was playing I would game it. That scenario manifested itself with the Rogue Black Tour shaft as it out performed everything and was the best feeling shaft I had ever hit. If you play this game to be the best you can be, it is a no brainer to play the best performing and feeling shaft even if it is bright orange and purple (although hopefully nobody produces an excellent shaft in those colors ) Orange and purple would be a dream come true. Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, JohnSmalls said: Orange and purple would be a dream come true. All you need is an Oban Purple and a can of orange spray paint. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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