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4 hours ago, Headhammer said:

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but at the time PXG entered the market equipment sales had been negative for 5 consecutive years. PXG did not offer multiple lines and instead offered a high priced luxury item that outsold all of the other more expensive lines causing golf companies to rethink their pricing strategies. Historically companies built clubs to achieve a certain price point that they would rarely exceed. Now they are not letting those pricing norms dictate club features.

Parsons is going after a different market than what the rest of the OEMs are chasing. Parsons wants a consumer that doesn’t care about price but wants what others don’t have or looking for that exclusivity.  Prior to PXG there were already high priced clubs available to use consumers like Honma, Miura and XXIO and their success had no impact on how OEMs prices their clubs.  Titleist launches the limited c16 release and the T-MB as their dive into the hollow body and somewhat exclusive line while keeping all their other lines in the normal price range and even with the recent releases of 718, 818, TS the prices have remained normal or same as previous release while at the same time adding new technology, process and/or high end shafts as stock.  Calllaway took the bait and went with the Epic irons to chase that high end  crowd while yet keeping all other lines at the same price as previous lines.  TaylorMade kept their m family in line with previous releases and raised prices on theirs p lineup some of which was limited release like p730/750 and the 770/790 were roughly what many OEMs had out for similar products.

Did Parsons success give them something to consider about raising process. I would say yes. Did it alter their pricing significantly? I would say no.  These companies are in it to make a profit and as you mentioned they build to a price point and that price point takes into account the amount R&D gets to spend, how much goes to marketing plus the cost of materials which is going up as they use more and more high end materials, and they have to factor in cost to employ people (benefits, salary, taxes) which considering pretty much every brand has a California facility aren’t cheap. They can offset that by having clubs made/built overseas and Mexico.

until I see every iron from these companies exceed $1000, every driver $600+, every wood approaching $400 abd hybrid at $300 the PXG influence isn’t there. These companies like any company in any industry want to make a profit and arevt going to push away consumers to a different brand by outpricing themselves out of the market.

cost of sonsunde goods has been on the rise for awhile and is part of life, golf included 

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Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S

Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4

Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S

Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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I am playing an entirely different game than most folks here. There’s no way I am spending anywhere near the coin that the major OEMs are charging. My no name clubs were bought brand new and I got a static fitting at no additional charge. Good enough for me. Maybe in the future I’ll buy a 2 or 3 year old name brand driver on closeout, but that’s about it.


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th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg Gen1 0811X 12° driver w/Project X Evenflow Blue 55g shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 16° 4 wood w/Kuro Kage Black 60g shaft

:srixon-small: Z355 22° 7 wood w/Miyazaki Jinsoku shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 19° 3 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 22° 4 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft

:tour-edge: HL E521 25° 5 hybrid w/Fubuki HD55 shaft

post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg Sti2 6 iron w/UST Recoil 660 graphite shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 Tour+ irons 7-PW w/UST Competition Series graphite shafts

:cleveland-small: CBX2 50° wedge w/Rotex shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg M-Series+ 56° wedge w/UST Recoil 660 graphite shaft
:cleveland-small:  Huntington Beach Soft Premier 10.5

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I was on the webiste of (our big box store up here in Canada ) Golftown  and looking at the  Titleist TS driver.
 
Are you sitting down for this --- $660 CAD.   
Are you friggin kidding me???
is there going to be a point where we as consumers say  " Enough is Enough". These prices arre getting out of hand.
 
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If I ever buy one of these I guarantee it will be new, about 3 years from now when it’s on closeout and going for $199.00 or less.



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th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg Gen1 0811X 12° driver w/Project X Evenflow Blue 55g shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 16° 4 wood w/Kuro Kage Black 60g shaft

:srixon-small: Z355 22° 7 wood w/Miyazaki Jinsoku shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 19° 3 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 TC 22° 4 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft

:tour-edge: HL E521 25° 5 hybrid w/Fubuki HD55 shaft

post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg Sti2 6 iron w/UST Recoil 660 graphite shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg KE4 Tour+ irons 7-PW w/UST Competition Series graphite shafts

:cleveland-small: CBX2 50° wedge w/Rotex shaft
post-76102-0-38507100-1525284411.jpg M-Series+ 56° wedge w/UST Recoil 660 graphite shaft
:cleveland-small:  Huntington Beach Soft Premier 10.5

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On 10/6/2018 at 3:12 PM, Har in the Hat said:

I was on the webiste of (our big box store up here in Canada ) Golftown  and looking at the  Titleist TS driver.

 

Are you sitting down for this --- $660 CAD.   

Are you friggin kidding me???

is there going to be a point where we as consumers say  " Enough is Enough". These prices arre getting out of hand.

 

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Where I'm from Har they are $850 each and I know that there is another big brand releasing a driver next year that will top $1000 NZ dollars 😵😵😎

 

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Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3 Hybrid - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
Irons:      :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 4-PW - True Temper XP95 Reg
Wedges: :cobra-small: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° -True Temper XP95 Reg
Putter:    :rife-putters-1: Two Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :titelist-small: Pro V1

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