No3PuttLaLa Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Went to Club Champion today for irons. Hit about 12 diff shafts. Finally dialed into KBS Tour Pro 90. From there we went to heads. Hit about 7 diff heads(M3, AP2, JPX919 Hot Metal, C300, Z585). Wound up with the Z585. Stock OWM gamers were King F6. ( 95 mph ball speed, 1200 spin and 160 total distance). The Z585 produced a 125 mph speed, 4200 spin, and 195 yard distance. The shaft and head combo was definitely a big change from my current gamers. Looking at 4-GW. CC was asking $2,400 for the full set. Going to do some research and see if I can find a slightly used deal for a better price, I’m sure I can. Super happy with the experience at CC. I honestly feel it was well worth the $150 for the fitting. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: M4 10.5* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Woods: M6 3W 15* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Hybrid: M4 Rescue 19* / KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 85g Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Irons: Z585 4-AW / KBS Tour 90 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Wedges: CBX - 56* & 60* / KBS Hi Rev 2.0 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Putter: Sigma 2 Tyne 4 Platinum / Superstroke Pistol Ball: Project a Bag: Hoofer 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Kbs tour 90 shafts are an option if you order direct from Srixon. I would expect you could do the same from any reseller. You should also be able to get any other customizations that CC suggested. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No3PuttLaLa Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 Kbs tour 90 shafts are an option if you order direct from Srixon. I would expect you could do the same from any reseller. You should also be able to get any other customizations that CC suggested. That’s what I figured as well. Easily half the cost of CC quote. If not more! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: M4 10.5* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Woods: M6 3W 15* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Hybrid: M4 Rescue 19* / KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 85g Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Irons: Z585 4-AW / KBS Tour 90 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Wedges: CBX - 56* & 60* / KBS Hi Rev 2.0 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Putter: Sigma 2 Tyne 4 Platinum / Superstroke Pistol Ball: Project a Bag: Hoofer 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbdors Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Definitely half. How do they make that model work? I did an estimate for the same shaft, lie and loft adjustment, extra wraps and special grips, only $1142. I don’t get it. Woods: Rogue ST Max LS 9*, Ventus Blue 6S / Stealth Plus+, 15*, MCA Diamana Thump 75S Hybrid: 0317 X Proto 3H & 4H, Ventus Blue 7S Irons: Takomo IRON 101 5-PW, Accra T90i S Wedges: CBX ZipCore 48*, Accra T90i, 53* & 58*, Accra T100i S Putter: ER1.2, 355g, Tour GPS, 33" w/ Mid Slim 2.0 Ball: Maxfli Tour Bag/Cart: '20 Air Hybrid / 4.0 / Alphard Club Booster V2, Swivel kit Accessories: 360 / Garmin G80 / Nikon Coolshot Pro Stabilized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 They sell you on the fact that they are going to evaluate all the components to ensure that they are the same specs and that the clubs are setup exactly as they were during your fitting. They also have some playability guarantees associated with performance. Additionally people go in and pay to get fit without buying clubs. As with anything in the retail market some are willing to spend that money while others aren't Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No3PuttLaLa Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 Definitely half. How do they make that model work? I did an estimate for the same shaft, lie and loft adjustment, extra wraps and special grips, only $1142. I don’t get it.Add in the $150 fitting fee and a 35% profit(at least) for them. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: M4 10.5* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Woods: M6 3W 15* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Hybrid: M4 Rescue 19* / KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 85g Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Irons: Z585 4-AW / KBS Tour 90 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Wedges: CBX - 56* & 60* / KBS Hi Rev 2.0 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Putter: Sigma 2 Tyne 4 Platinum / Superstroke Pistol Ball: Project a Bag: Hoofer 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No3PuttLaLa Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 They sell you on the fact that they are going to evaluate all the components to ensure that they are the same specs and that the clubs are setup exactly as they were during your fitting. They also have some playability guarantees associated with performance. Additionally people go in and pay to get fit without buying clubs. As with anything in the retail market some are willing to spend that money while others aren'tDefinitely the best/most comprehensive fitting I have had vs our local retailers(Puetz, Pro Golf Discount, Dicks). I think the fitting was worth the time and money. But I will most definitely be buying my irons elsewhere. I will be looking for lightly used set of Z585 and the shaft combo. I can get them adjusted through a local vendor(Puetz or Pro golf) for less than $100(entire set). Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: M4 10.5* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Woods: M6 3W 15* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Hybrid: M4 Rescue 19* / KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 85g Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Irons: Z585 4-AW / KBS Tour 90 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Wedges: CBX - 56* & 60* / KBS Hi Rev 2.0 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Putter: Sigma 2 Tyne 4 Platinum / Superstroke Pistol Ball: Project a Bag: Hoofer 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 16 hours ago, No3PuttLaLa said: Went to Club Champion today for irons. Hit about 12 diff shafts. Finally dialed into KBS Tour Pro 90. From there we went to heads. Hit about 7 diff heads(M3, AP2, JPX919 Hot Metal, C300, Z585). Wound up with the Z585. Stock OWM gamers were King F6. ( 95 mph ball speed, 1200 spin and 160 total distance). The Z585 produced a 125 mph speed, 4200 spin, and 195 yard distance. The shaft and head combo was definitely a big change from my current gamers. Looking at 4-GW. CC was asking $2,400 for the full set. Going to do some research and see if I can find a slightly used deal for a better price, I’m sure I can. Super happy with the experience at CC. I honestly feel it was well worth the $150 for the fitting. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Do you recall what LM system they were using? G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 hour ago, fixyurdivot said: Do you recall what LM system they were using? They use trackman Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I’ve done 3 fittings there now and I’ve always taken the specs and bought the club/clubs elsewhere for much cheaper. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 17 hours ago, No3PuttLaLa said: Looking at 4-GW. CC was asking $2,400 for the full set. Going to do some research and see if I can find a slightly used deal for a better price, I’m sure I can. You most certainly can. I've had only one experience* with CC a few years ago but was a little put-off by their tactics. Granted the place was nice and fancy and appeared to have all the shafts, heads, LM's and such. It cost a lot of money to stock and runs stores like that. Not counting employees. The one I stopped by was in a high-end retail center where I'm guessing rent ain't cheap! All this goes into the price of your clubs. When asked I advise guys try and find and independant fitter. And one that has many many years of experience. They're out there if you look. I also suggest that you don't get hung up on playing only major mfg's brands. Think outside the box. Golf isn't just Taylormade, Callaway, Cobra, Srixon, Ping, Titleist, etc. There's a whole other world out there and... you'll be able to find great equipment, a great fit, a better game, and save some money. *I wasn't getting a fitting. Just looking around and asking questions. For an example the salesman - ehem..... fitter showed me an example of a custom fit driver. (Shaft & head combo) $600!! I asked if perhaps I could get a driver that would be great for less money and without a $400 shaft. His answer was.. sure. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 KBS shafts seemed to have replaced TT Dynamic Golds as the preferred steel iron shaft. I wonder why that is? As much a dinosaur as I am wailing about the deficiencies of modern equipment, the one thing toward which I was quick to adapt was graphite shafts on irons and wedges. In my instance, though, performance was a totally irrelevant factor in the decision. I found as i got older that steel shafts on anything but a putter are more harsh to the hands than either graphite or even old-fashioned hickory. I went to NV Pro 105s because they were heavy enough to use on heads made for steel without making the clubs feels weirdly light. Only then did i discover that the Aldilas played just as well if not better than the True Tempers. However, I'm curious. To those still favoring steel shafts in irons and wedges, what was the attraction of the KBS brand models? They seemed to have chased Brunswick and other steel shaft manufacturers other than True Temper away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 KBS shafts seemed to have replaced TT Dynamic Golds as the preferred steel iron shaft. I wonder why that is? As much a dinosaur as I am wailing about the deficiencies of modern equipment, the one thing toward which I was quick to adapt was graphite shafts on irons and wedges. In my instance, though, performance was a totally irrelevant factor in the decision. I found as i got older that steel shafts on anything but a putter are more harsh to the hands than either graphite or even old-fashioned hickory. I went to NV Pro 105s because they were heavy enough to use on heads made for steel without making the clubs feels weirdly light. Only then did i discover that the Aldilas played just as well if not better than the True Tempers. However, I'm curious. To those still favoring steel shafts in irons and wedges, what was the attraction of the KBS brand models? They seemed to have chased Brunswick and other steel shaft manufacturers other than True Temper away. I don't think this is true. True Temper (dynamic gold and project x) still dominate the iron shaft market. https://www.truetemper.com/dynamic-gold-tour-issue-no-1-shaft-in-golf/ In fact I'd bet there are more Nippon irons shafts on tour than KBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No3PuttLaLa Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 There was absolutely zero pressure to buy from them. My fitter was very professional and thorough. Couldn’t have asked for a better experience, IMO. Leagues better than any of our local golf shops here in the Seattle area. Probably will not pull trigger on the iron set until later next month. Have to save some pennies! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: M4 10.5* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Woods: M6 3W 15* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Hybrid: M4 Rescue 19* / KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 85g Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Irons: Z585 4-AW / KBS Tour 90 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Wedges: CBX - 56* & 60* / KBS Hi Rev 2.0 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Putter: Sigma 2 Tyne 4 Platinum / Superstroke Pistol Ball: Project a Bag: Hoofer 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 hour ago, jlukes said: I don't think this is true. True Temper (dynamic gold and project x) still dominate the iron shaft market. https://www.truetemper.com/dynamic-gold-tour-issue-no-1-shaft-in-golf/ In fact I'd bet there are more Nippon irons shafts on tour than KBS I did say "other than True Temper" but your point is very well taken nevertheless. I didn't know that TT was still number one, or that Nippon was that big. KBS seems to be beloved on internet forums. I'm sure that they're all good shafts, but in the last several years of my playing days, steel made my hands swell. I was fortunate that NV Pro 105s were a seamless and painless (if expensive) transition. Converting was like paying for my irons and wedges twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I did say "other than True Temper" but your point is very well taken nevertheless. I didn't know that TT was still number one, or that Nippon was that big. KBS seems to be beloved on internet forums. I'm sure that they're all good shafts, but in the last several years of my playing days, steel made my hands swell. I was fortunate that NV Pro 105s were a seamless and painless (if expensive) transition. Converting was like paying for my irons and wedges twice. Graphite iron shafts are definitely on par performance wise with steel. The only thing holding people back from making the transition is the cost. As you mentioned, the upcharge for the premium graphite iron shafts is borderline absurd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtracymog Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 KBS shafts seemed to have replaced TT Dynamic Golds as the preferred steel iron shaft. I wonder why that is? As much a dinosaur as I am wailing about the deficiencies of modern equipment, the one thing toward which I was quick to adapt was graphite shafts on irons and wedges. In my instance, though, performance was a totally irrelevant factor in the decision. I found as i got older that steel shafts on anything but a putter are more harsh to the hands than either graphite or even old-fashioned hickory. I went to NV Pro 105s because they were heavy enough to use on heads made for steel without making the clubs feels weirdly light. Only then did i discover that the Aldilas played just as well if not better than the True Tempers. However, I'm curious. To those still favoring steel shafts in irons and wedges, what was the attraction of the KBS brand models? They seemed to have chased Brunswick and other steel shaft manufacturers other than True Temper away. For me it was a numbers and feel thing. I had s300s in my irons for around 10 years. When I was fitting myself for the new ones, I tried them all: Modus 120 and 130, x100, rifle 6.5, KBS Tour 130 and I just fell in love with the feel and the dispersion of the C-Taper 130s. I liked the heavy feel and everything was crisp. I was also able to bring my spin numbers down a little. Until I don’t have the speed to play these anymore, I’ve found my shaft.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Cortex w/MGS Motore X F1 7X tipped 1" F5 17 degree hybrid w/Rogue Black 85X C300 Forged 3-5 w/C-Taper 130X FG Tour V6 5-6 w/C-Taper 130X Staff Model Blade 7-PW w/C-Taper 130X RTX4 52, 56, 60 w/S400 Tour Issue ER7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djahubes Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 That set is around $1100 on Srixon.com. Club champion is great, but then the buildout is ridiculous. They want to pure every shaft, order heads and shafts separately. Take the spec sheet and call Srixon. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 17 hours ago, NiftyNiblick said: I did say "other than True Temper" but your point is very well taken nevertheless. I didn't know that TT was still number one, or that Nippon was that big. KBS seems to be beloved on internet forums. I'm sure that they're all good shafts, but in the last several years of my playing days, steel made my hands swell. I was fortunate that NV Pro 105s were a seamless and painless (if expensive) transition. Converting was like paying for my irons and wedges twice. Had TT on my G20's. When I order my C300's I opted for KBS 90's and love them. FYI they're about 30 g. lighter Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 18 hours ago, No3PuttLaLa said: Leagues better than any of our local golf shops here in the Seattle area. I'm not pushing Wishon clubs on you or anyone else. But I did a search on Wishon's site for club fitters and found 2 close by for you. You might do the same and call them. Ask what brands they deal with. Just a friendly suggestion. Good luck. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No3PuttLaLa Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 Thank you. Srixon does have them for half the cost built to same spec. CC had my swing weight for these at D7, does that automatically happen when the clubs are built to this spec, or does additional weighting need to happen? Driver: M4 10.5* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Woods: M6 3W 15* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Hybrid: M4 Rescue 19* / KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 85g Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Irons: Z585 4-AW / KBS Tour 90 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Wedges: CBX - 56* & 60* / KBS Hi Rev 2.0 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Putter: Sigma 2 Tyne 4 Platinum / Superstroke Pistol Ball: Project a Bag: Hoofer 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Thank you. Srixon does have them for half the cost built to same spec. CC had my swing weight for these at D7, does that automatically happen when the clubs are built to this spec, or does additional weighting need to happen?Don’t know your specs; Did they suggest adding somewhere between 1/2 to inch in length? You are always best to provide all relevant information to ensure you get what you want Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No3PuttLaLa Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 Z585 Irons KBS Tour 90 +1" Length +3* Upright +1* Loft Lamkin Z5 Grips (2+1) Driver: M4 10.5* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Woods: M6 3W 15* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Hybrid: M4 Rescue 19* / KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 85g Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Irons: Z585 4-AW / KBS Tour 90 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Wedges: CBX - 56* & 60* / KBS Hi Rev 2.0 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Putter: Sigma 2 Tyne 4 Platinum / Superstroke Pistol Ball: Project a Bag: Hoofer 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No3PuttLaLa Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 Don’t know your specs; Did they suggest adding somewhere between 1/2 to inch in length? You are always best to provide all relevant information to ensure you get what you want Z585 Irons KBS Tour 90 +1" Length +3* Upright +1* Loft Lamkin Z5 Grips (2+1) Driver: M4 10.5* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Woods: M6 3W 15* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Hybrid: M4 Rescue 19* / KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 85g Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Irons: Z585 4-AW / KBS Tour 90 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Wedges: CBX - 56* & 60* / KBS Hi Rev 2.0 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Putter: Sigma 2 Tyne 4 Platinum / Superstroke Pistol Ball: Project a Bag: Hoofer 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Z585 Irons KBS Tour 90 +1" Length +3* Upright +1* Loft Lamkin Z5 Grips (2+1) The +1” length adds about 6 swing weight points and the grip weight is about average so it shouldn’t deduct or add any. The 585 comes stock as D2, so the configuration would be close to D7/D8. Tell them you want final swingweight as D7 Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No3PuttLaLa Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, cnosil said: The +1” length adds about 6 swing weight points and the grip weight is about average so it shouldn’t deduct or add any. The 585 comes stock as D2, so the configuration would be close to D7/D8. Tell them you want final swingweight as D7 Srixon said they cant add or remove any swing weight directly. Which is why I asked. Thank you a ton for your help and insight! Driver: M4 10.5* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Woods: M6 3W 15* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Hybrid: M4 Rescue 19* / KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 85g Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Irons: Z585 4-AW / KBS Tour 90 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Wedges: CBX - 56* & 60* / KBS Hi Rev 2.0 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Putter: Sigma 2 Tyne 4 Platinum / Superstroke Pistol Ball: Project a Bag: Hoofer 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Srixon said they cant add or remove any swing weight directly. Which is why I asked. Thank you a ton for your help and insight!No problem. This is part of what club champion does for you. . You could also see if there are any other resellers/fitters that would be able to do this for you. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollie017 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Went to Club Champion today for irons. Hit about 12 diff shafts. Finally dialed into KBS Tour Pro 90. From there we went to heads. Hit about 7 diff heads(M3, AP2, JPX919 Hot Metal, C300, Z585). Wound up with the Z585. Stock OWM gamers were King F6. ( 95 mph ball speed, 1200 spin and 160 total distance). The Z585 produced a 125 mph speed, 4200 spin, and 195 yard distance. The shaft and head combo was definitely a big change from my current gamers. Looking at 4-GW. CC was asking $2,400 for the full set. Going to do some research and see if I can find a slightly used deal for a better price, I’m sure I can. Super happy with the experience at CC. I honestly feel it was well worth the $150 for the fitting. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyYou can buy a direct from the manufacturer, with the same specs, for 40% less. I did the same following my CC fitting a year ago. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No3PuttLaLa Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 You can buy a direct from the manufacturer, with the same specs, for 40% less. I did the same following my CC fitting a year ago. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyYes sir! Only thing you don’t get is the “puring” of the shaft. I am not good enough to notice that anyways. Got from Srixon for half the cost shipped. Should come in mailThis week Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: M4 10.5* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Woods: M6 3W 15* / Evenflow Blue 6.0 Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Hybrid: M4 Rescue 19* / KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 85g Stiff / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Irons: Z585 4-AW / KBS Tour 90 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Wedges: CBX - 56* & 60* / KBS Hi Rev 2.0 - Regular +1" / Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Putter: Sigma 2 Tyne 4 Platinum / Superstroke Pistol Ball: Project a Bag: Hoofer 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 5:15 PM, jlukes said: On 10/14/2018 at 5:12 PM, NiftyNiblick said: Graphite iron shafts are definitely on par performance wise with steel. The only thing holding people back from making the transition is the cost. As you mentioned, the upcharge for the premium graphite iron shafts is borderline absurd You say that but have you seen the prices of steel shafts these days?? Steel shafts are what's gotten absurd! KBS S tapers are $55 each, Nippon Modus are $38 each, KBS tour 90 are $30 each, and Project X LZ come in at $45 each. Even basic Dynamic Golds are $23 each and they used to be less than $15 not that long ago. Not that much of a stretch anymore to move to a $50 Aerotech graphite shaft. My bag is a revolving door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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