Har in the Hat Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 As you guys are probably aware, Cannabis is now legal in Canada. Yesterday my wife could smell something from our sons room ( 14 years old) and she went to investigate. He has been previously been caught with a vape so we do suspect him of doing things. She found a container of weed. So i had a talk with him last night and of course came the self defence- it's legal , everyone does it , etc. During our conversation he says "C'mon Dad, don't tell me you never smoked marijuana when you where my age"? Honestly, I didn't know how to answer that. Do I tell him the truth and now I am being a hypocrite and i have no weight behind what i am saying or lie so i have a stronger case for getting him to not smoke? GB13 and fixyurdivot 2 Quote What's in my Mizuno BR-D2 bag OFFICIAL TESTER FOR THE PING i500 CLUBS. Currently playing Ping i500 w/ Alta CB graphite shafts MP 25 - fitted w/ Project X shafts - stiff 60 / 56 52 910 D2 driver - 9.5 degree -fitted13 F 3 wood 13.5 deg CPR 3 hybrid Method mallet Dexterity: I shoot left-handed so no one can ask me "Hey, can I try that club?" Twitter @GolfingHat Instagram @Mizunostixgolfnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 First off, sorry you're having to deal with this. I'm really not sure which is the best path. One thing that floors me is that whoever was behind the legislation to legalize this drug, they didn't think to make the legal age something other than teenagers. This wouldn't stop them, but would at least give parents a legal basis to try and discourage. Good luck. MattF and GB13 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, fixyurdivot said: First off, sorry you're having to deal with this. I'm really not sure which is the best path. One thing that floors me is that whoever was behind the legislation to legalize this drug, they didn't think to make the legal age something other than teenagers. This wouldn't stop them, but would at least give parents an legal basis to try and discourage. Good luck. Legal age in Canada is 18 with some provinces going with 21. srooch2 and fixyurdivot 2 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, GB13 said: Legal age in Canada is 18 with some provinces going with 21. Good to hear. Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I sent Har a PM with my opinion. On another note I have glaucoma. Currently my pressure is out of control in the right eye which already has significant damage in it. My ophthalmologist has given me the option of trying cannabis or going for laser surgery. I’m honestly torn. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy MattF and GB13 2 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, revkev said: I sent Har a PM with my opinion. On another note I have glaucoma. Currently my pressure is out of control in the right eye which already has significant damage in it. My ophthalmologist has given me the option of trying cannabis or going for laser surgery. I’m honestly torn. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy If it's the version stripped of the mind blowing agent, it might be worth a try. GB13 and MattF 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Heck this is my opinion.... I'm all for whatever anyone wants to do to their own body. I'd rather someone get it legally then illegally. Har in the Hat and MattF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hey @Har in the Hat, I sent you a PM. Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Here's a shocker... The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety published a study today that says the frequency of collision claims per insured vehicle year rose 6% following the start of retail sales of recreational marijuana in CO, NV, OR, and WA compared with the controlled states of ID, MT, UT, and WY where it's illegal. The study is based on collision loss data for the period January 2012 to October 2017. Rtracymog and GB13 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Har in the Hat Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 What's funny is that my son loves watching Intervention and he knows the consequences of a drug addiction . I am really not so worried about the weed, but am more scared of him being at a party and some one there brings out some meth or coke and he tries it. That is what really scares me. And I told him this. This is where it starts for young people. MattF and Kenny B 2 Quote What's in my Mizuno BR-D2 bag OFFICIAL TESTER FOR THE PING i500 CLUBS. Currently playing Ping i500 w/ Alta CB graphite shafts MP 25 - fitted w/ Project X shafts - stiff 60 / 56 52 910 D2 driver - 9.5 degree -fitted13 F 3 wood 13.5 deg CPR 3 hybrid Method mallet Dexterity: I shoot left-handed so no one can ask me "Hey, can I try that club?" Twitter @GolfingHat Instagram @Mizunostixgolfnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hmmm if it was me, I would probably tell them the truth... yes, I smoked a couple of times during high school... 3 times max... just out of curiosity. Never made it a habit, because I cared too much about my academic performance, so didn't want to gimp my brain The more you forbid them to do, the greater their desire to go against you. So my dad would let me drink a few beers with friends at home, under his supervision. He said better do stupid stuff here where I can see you than getting drunk in a bar and getting stabbed. My kids are still young (4 and 1), but I think that's how I will raise my daughter, too. I will let her have a drink with me at home, so she knows her limit and doesn't go all drunk and wild in a party. *** Also, I'm all for legalizing all drugs, let natural selection do its stuff. Whatever you do, it's your choice, live with it. MattF and tommc23 2 Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Kenny B said: Here's a shocker... The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety published a study today that says the frequency of collision claims per insured vehicle year rose 6% following the start of retail sales of recreational marijuana in CO, NV, OR, and WA compared with the controlled states of ID, MT, UT, and WY where it's illegal. The study is based on collision loss data for the period January 2012 to October 2017. I saw that headline yesterday, but admittedly did not read the details. Are they claiming legal weed was the cause or just noting the correlation? Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 A fourteen year old experimenting with cannabis or a vape wouldn't give me the vapers. Blowing off his homework, engaging in boorish behavior, or acting in a misogynist manner toward his female classmates would bother me a lot. Stay calm. I'm guessing from your concern that you're doing a good job. srooch2 and deejaid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 No doubt starting there can lead to moves to stronger drugs. Our society “poo-poos” marijuana use, and I’m not sure why. I’m lucky to have made good choices growing-up as I’ve never tried a single drug. Not once. I had an older brother who started by drinking, then smoking dope, and ended-up as a heroin/crack addict. As he said, he was that kid that would try whatever someone was offering that was stronger, different. I have had this conversation with 15 yr old my son already. He knows vaping is unacceptable, same with drinking, and doing drugs. All I can say is that a child that does these things and uses the “everyone else is doing it” is probably only doing these things to fit-in. As a former teacher, coach, and principal, this is a sign of lower self-esteem and a need to please others. Lots of psychology in-play here. My two cents are he could use a visit to a counselor to see what’s going-on. Look-up the now known issues that vaping are causing to the lungs and young brains. It’s not a small thing to blow-off. If he is like my brother, it does lead to things down the road...As I used to tell students, “You know your parents care by saying ‘no’, and giving you rules to live-up to.”Good luck. It’s not easy. But remember who the adult is and you’ve learned lessons. You can teach your son these lessons. Help him. Something is going on there.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro GB13 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. 82 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Well, I'm probably one of the few people left on the planet who has never smoked weed, or done cocaine, or heroin, or any other "illegal" substance. I smelled pot in the hallway in my freshman year of high school, and thought it smelled worse than a fart, and then it was pointed out to my extremely naive self that that was pot, and I responded with, "and people want to do this why?" Drugs just simply scare me, period. As for alcohol, my father was a bit more proactive with that. We were on the golf course when I was 14 and he had Black Label in the cart. I asked him if I could drink some, and he said, "sure go ahead, but I don't think you're gonna like it." I took two sips and about threw up. Granted, my tastes have changed since then, and I drink the occasional beer, but have long since sworn off excessive alcohol consumption. As to the conflict with your teenager. There is a sign in a local restaurant that says, "Hire a teenager, while they still know everything." Comedy aside, I took an authoritarian role to parenting in my house. It was pretty simple - it was my house, and my kids were living in it. I was lucky though, because both of my kids inherited my character traits of obedience to authority, and never did anything remotely as troubling as smoking weed or even wanting to try drugs. For that I guess I was fortunate. I'll close this by sharing a story from my childhood. My younger brother had a friend named Steve who was somewhat of a bad influence. Steve and my brother were caught smoking weed (I can't remember how old he was honestly, but it was maybe middle school years). To this day I have never seen my father as upset as he was the day my parents found out. And normally my mother was the source of discipline in the family, as my Dad stayed on the sidelines, except for the most serious offenses. Heck, most of the time our offenses were minor, and Mom dealt with us accordingly, and we general towed the line but didn't go over. But in this case, Dad left no stone unturned. I didn't witness it, but I believe my brother couldn't sit for a week due to the spanking he received from my Dad. My Dad met with the other father and they both agreed that Steve and my brother were never to see each other again. I honestly don't remember the rest of the punishment, but to sum it up, whatever my Dad handed down as punishment to my brother solved the problem, as he never did weed or any other drugs ever again. Look, my parents just simply didn't tolerate even venturing into this territory. They put a stop to any behavior they considered wrong before it even had a chance to get off of the ground. If you are having a debate with your teenager about how weed is legal and even entertaining the debate, you've already lost the battle. I learned this parenting lesson from my parents. It's not even about the weed, but it's about who is in charge here. My parents always made it perfectly clear that it was their house, and I was just lucky to be living in it. Weed, drugs, missing curfew, talking back, piss poor attitude, disrespecting either of my parents, whatever; none of that was tolerated - not even entertained. So it's about who is in charge. You can take any issue and insert it where the weed is, it's totally irrelevant to the theme of this problem. You are the parent, it's your house, and you are in charge. You can run with that, or continue to allow the 14 year old to know that he owns you right now. Kor.A.Door, PMookie, GB13 and 1 other 4 Quote G400 Driver XR 4 Fairway 16.5° Fli-Hi Utility Iron - 21° G Series 5-9 irons SM7 46°, 50°, 54° & 58° Ghost Spider S putter Nexus Laser Rangefinder Garmin Approach S20 GPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hopefully your son understands that there are still laws about age limits. That, and your house rules, are the ultimate factors here. If I were in your shoes I’d handle it like a drinking underage or driving without a license issue. However, you are in your shoes, and I hope you are able to get things squared away. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy MattF, tommc23 and yungkory 3 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, PMookie said: No doubt starting there can lead to moves to stronger drugs. Our society “poo-poos” marijuana use, and I’m not sure why. I'm sorry, PMookie, but calling marijuana a "gateway drug" is a patently absurd statement. It factually isn't. yungkory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 36 minutes ago, NiftyNiblick said: I'm sorry, PMookie, but calling marijuana a "gateway drug" is a patently absurd statement. It factually isn't. I'm sorry... I must have missed where that fact is stated. Can you give me a reference? GB13 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I'm sorry, PMookie, but calling marijuana a "gateway drug" is a patently absurd statement. It factually isn't. My brother, who barely escaped the grasp of heroin and crack, would definitely disagree with this “thought”. I suggest you stop here...... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro GB13 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I'm sorry... I must have missed where that fact is stated. Can you give me a reference?Did you read my post completely??? My brother went through it and COMPLETELY attributes it to part of his path to heroin and crack. I suggest you stop here.........Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro GB13 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, PMookie said: Did you read my post completely??? My brother went through it and COMPLETELY attributes it to part of his path to heroin and crack. I suggest you stop here......... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Yes, I read it completely, and I am truly sorry that your brother and your family had to go though that. I was referring to to Nifty's statement, not yours. The FACT is that marijuana cannot be proven one way or the other to be a "Gateway Drug". In your brother's case it did lead to stronger drugs, but there is also evidence that it doesn't lead to stronger drugs. It depends on the person. But to say that it "factually isn't" a gateway drug is not supportable. yungkory, fixyurdivot and PMookie 3 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaid Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 As a regular user of cannabis that has children I have a few thoughts.First, ask your son why he is using marijuana. Is it because his friends do it? Is it for an escape from problems he may be having. Really listen to what he has to say, it may be eye opening. Next, go online with him and research the positive and negative aspects of marijuana use and discuss with him. While cannabis has many wonderful healing properties, it does also impair functions that could prevent your son from finishing chores or schoolwork, and once he has a drivers license, can be dangerous.Then finally tell him that you don’t think it is good for someone that is still developing to be using a substance that can alter them. There are reasons for age limits and they must be obeyed for his safety. Once he is of a mature age he can then choose what substances to put into his body, but it is your duty to help him make those decisions while he lives at home.Be open and honest and loving. But most of all, don’t just talk, listen.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk yungkory, russtopherb, silver & black and 4 others 7 Quote WITB: Stan Thompson “Reactionizer” persimmon woods 1-4 Spalding Tour Edition 3-PW Spalding Top-Flite E.V.A. Sand Club Rife Legend Z Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 hours ago, GSwag said: Well, I'm probably one of the few people left on the planet who has never smoked weed, or done cocaine, or heroin, or any other "illegal" substance. X2 silver & black and Har in the Hat 2 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I will not give an opinion either way, because this post isn’t about my opinion on drugs or the use of them, I just want to let Har know that we appreciate his openess and wish him the best in the situation with his son. These are difficult things to deal with, and I hope that everything works out for the best. tony@CIC, cnosil, fixyurdivot and 3 others 6 Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaid Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 A fourteen year old experimenting with cannabis or a vape wouldn't give me the vapers. Blowing off his homework, engaging in boorish behavior, or acting in a misogynist manner toward his female classmates would bother me a lot. Stay calm. I'm guessing from your concern that you're doing a good job. I see what you did there. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote WITB: Stan Thompson “Reactionizer” persimmon woods 1-4 Spalding Tour Edition 3-PW Spalding Top-Flite E.V.A. Sand Club Rife Legend Z Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newballcoach Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 14 hours ago, Har in the Hat said: As you guys are probably aware, Cannabis is now legal in Canada. Yesterday my wife could smell something from our sons room ( 14 years old) and she went to investigate. He has been previously been caught with a vape so we do suspect him of doing things. She found a container of weed. So i had a talk with him last night and of course came the self defence- it's legal , everyone does it , etc. During our conversation he says "C'mon Dad, don't tell me you never smoked marijuana when you where my age"? Honestly, I didn't know how to answer that. Do I tell him the truth and now I am being a hypocrite and i have no weight behind what i am saying or lie so i have a stronger case for getting him to not smoke? I teach in Ontario, and we broach this topic with our kids all the time. Many have different attitudes on marijuana brought on by media figures, parents, peers, etc. I try to give them the facts. a) it's illegal at your age (no debating that) and b) tons of research has shown it can have many harmful effects on your mental health, school performance and can increase the risk of psychological disorders. I have had students ask me before if I've done it (I lie to them) but I also tell them it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if everyone else in the room has tried it, it's about you, what matters to you and your pros and cons of the risk factors about that drug. Encourage your son to make his own decisions and not worry if "everyone does it" or who else has done it in the past. You're not a hypocrite for encouraging someone to not do something you have done. They are benefiting from your experience. At this point, he is looking for an excuse to continue, so you need to get him to think about why he is doing it, what he wants to get out of it, and do the potential risks outweigh what I want to get out of my life. You need to encourage and empower him to make his own decisions, because if you come down like a hardass he'll probably just sneak around and do it without your knowledge (which is always worse) I hope that helps, I'd be happy to share any resources with you if you're interested. Good luck Kenny B, MattF, silver & black and 1 other 4 Quote WITB Driver- PING G400 LST w/ Project X Evenflow Black Fwy- TM Aeroburner 16.5HL Irons- Callaway Steelhead XR (3-PW) Wedges- Callaway MD3 (50,54,58) Putter- Cleveland TFI Satin Cero Ball- Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newballcoach Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Kenny B said: Yes, I read it completely, and I am truly sorry that your brother and your family had to go though that. I was referring to to Nifty's statement, not yours. The FACT is that marijuana cannot be proven one way or the other to be a "Gateway Drug". In your brother's case it did lead to stronger drugs, but there is also evidence that it doesn't lead to stronger drugs. It depends on the person. But to say that it "factually isn't" a gateway drug is not supportable. I firmly believe that marijuana and alcohol are most peoples first introductions to the world of banned/controlled substances and from there, more can be experimented with (this actually has facts to back it up). The non-gateway drug argument means that you are arguing that crack heads likely started with cocaine and never tried another drug before that, which is statistically untrue. It doesn't mean that everyone who uses marijuana will one day use something worse, but people who use something worse often start with marijuana or alcohol. https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug Interesting article to see about the responses to THC in rat brains and how it primes certain parts of the brain for cross-sensitization for other drugs afterwards. fixyurdivot, Kenny B, silver & black and 1 other 4 Quote WITB Driver- PING G400 LST w/ Project X Evenflow Black Fwy- TM Aeroburner 16.5HL Irons- Callaway Steelhead XR (3-PW) Wedges- Callaway MD3 (50,54,58) Putter- Cleveland TFI Satin Cero Ball- Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, newballcoach said: I firmly believe that marijuana and alcohol are most peoples first introductions to the world of banned/controlled substances and from there, more can be experimented with (this actually has facts to back it up). The non-gateway drug argument means that you are arguing that crack heads likely started with cocaine and never tried another drug before that, which is statistically untrue. It doesn't mean that everyone who uses marijuana will one day use something worse, but people who use something worse often start with marijuana or alcohol. https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug Interesting article to see about the responses to THC in rat brains and how it primes certain parts of the brain for cross-sensitization for other drugs afterwards. I wish I like that more than once. I had started a response about this but could never word it right. Thank you for a coherently worded response. Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 29 minutes ago, newballcoach said: I firmly believe that marijuana and alcohol are most peoples first introductions to the world of banned/controlled substances and from there, more can be experimented with (this actually has facts to back it up). The non-gateway drug argument means that you are arguing that crack heads likely started with cocaine and never tried another drug before that, which is statistically untrue. It doesn't mean that everyone who uses marijuana will one day use something worse, but people who use something worse often start with marijuana or alcohol. https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug Interesting article to see about the responses to THC in rat brains and how it primes certain parts of the brain for cross-sensitization for other drugs afterwards. Agree totally. That's my point exactly, and it has been supported by many studies over the years. And the younger someone starts, the more opportunity exists to try something else. It really depends on the person and their environment. tony@CIC 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, newballcoach said: You're not a hypocrite for encouraging someone to not do something you have done. They are benefiting from your experience. This... will hopefully help Har more than anything. Kudo's to all of us here on the forum for being able to discuss a topic like this without it going completely south. I've said it in my first MGS post, but it's worth repeating. MGS rocks and there is something about the mix of members (and our Mods) on this website that just works - better than any others I currently or previously participated on. russtopherb, tony@CIC and newballcoach 3 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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