Hitting mega push draws (drawing 20 yards)

[Big money]

Finally got out and took a few swings on this beautiful fall 65 degree day.Every shot was a massive push draw.It would start out right and hook back in or over hook 20 plus yards at times.Looked impressive in the air 

I went thru my routine of checking aim , posture , grip etc. Even filmed my swing and saw very little Clubface turning over. It actually looked real good on camera. What would cause mega push draws ? Is it possibly out of sync from hardly playing this season ?

[GB13]

6 minutes ago, Big money said:

Finally got out and took a few swings on this beautiful fall 65 degree day.Every shot was a massive push draw.It would start out right and hook back in or over hook 20 plus yards at times.Looked impressive in the air 

I went thru my routine of checking aim , posture , grip etc. Even filmed my swing and saw very little Clubface turning over. It actually looked real good on camera. What would cause mega push draws ? Is it possibly out of sync from hardly playing this season ?

I would guess that it is a club path problem. You are holding the face open but swing way inside to out causing hook spin. If you swing a little more to the left the hook should disappear. 

[Big money]

7 minutes ago, GB13 said:

I would guess that it is a club path problem. You are holding the face open but swing way inside to out causing hook spin. If you swing a little more to the left the hook should disappear. 

Right now it would be impossible for me even slicing a ball. Really feels solid hitting a big hook 

[GB13]

2 minutes ago, Big money said:

Right now it would be impossible for me even slicing a ball. Really feels solid hitting a big hook 

Okay, if it goes high enough, I would just play with the big draw. If it eliminates one side of the course and you strike it well most times, you are in good shape. 

Just adjust the aim for the draw, and fire away. 

[Mr. 82]

I thought you were giving up the game?

That said, what is your swing plane?  Is it mostly like a baseball swing (flat), or is it more upright?  Try bringing the swing plane up, and more upright.  That will cause more of a slice, then it will a hook.  I always adjust my swing plane, depending on the type of shot I want to pull off.  Flat for draw, upright for cut.

[Big money]

1 hour ago, GSwag said:

I thought you were giving up the game?

That said, what is your swing plane?  Is it mostly like a baseball swing (flat), or is it more upright?  Try bringing the swing plane up, and more upright.  That will cause more of a slice, then it will a hook.  I always adjust my swing plane, depending on the type of shot I want to pull off.  Flat for draw, upright for cut.

Just can’t let it go. I guess I’m a glutton for punishment.

my swing goes extreme vertical backswing. Into a shallow move.Real goofy looking. But it did look like I was shallowing later today, and slightly steeper until hip high. I’m thinking it was from such a long lay off from the game.

[Mr. 82]

1 minute ago, Big money said:

 I’m thinking it was from such a long lay off from the game.

Probably.  Time for a range session.  Pull out your 7 iron and hit that about 100 times until you are hitting it straight.  Then once you've relearned the muscle memory of a good swing take that to some of your other clubs.

When I started playing again about 4+ years ago I spent a week at the driving range before attempting a round.  I knew after a few years of not playing that my swing would be total crap.  In fact, I went from hitting a slice previously to having a draw bias with my irons.  I had never seen that before.  My body had to relearn how to hit a golf ball basically.

[PMookie]

More than likely, in-to-out swing path.

 

 

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Take a head cover and lay it down just out in front of the ball, in front of the front right quadrant of the ball, giving enough room for the head to pass it. Hit some drives. This will make sure you don’t go in-to-out, because of you do, you’ll hit the head cover.

[Big money]

Went to the range Yesterday and played 9

hples. And still massive push draws. It really shows in 5 iron up to driver.The short irons are all nice little draws.It isn’t a snap hook , but a nice high flight with very noticeable right path and a 20 yard hook back in the middle.I was hitting some drives in areas that I’ve onlh reached with a wind behind me.Very long for me.Is this normal where my path and face angle naturally changed with out playing golf for months? I’ve never had a flight of the ball like this.Really hate to lose it 

[Big money]

Went to the range today and hit a bunch of drivers.The chap next to me mentioned that he never saw a ball hook in as much as mine.My divots were just slightly right of the target line.Normal height drivers with 30 yards of curve at times.I still can’t grasp how this is happening.Just dumbfounded.On a real tight driving course this shot could be a little scary 

ball contact not on the toe,grip stance line and shoulder line all on target and not way right.Ball played off of left front foot Instep for all shots.

[Big money]

Used the indoor simulator and played 9 holes at spyglass with some other guys.Still massive push draws that start way right and hook in.They were actually amazed how it was curving like this.Its really nuts how my swing just naturally reverted with this shot.As long as I adjust and aim for it I’m ok.I didn’t know current gear would allow a ball curving like that 

 

[tommc23]

Used the indoor simulator and played 9 holes at spyglass with some other guys.Still massive push draws that start way right and hook in.They were actually amazed how it was curving like this.Its really nuts how my swing just naturally reverted with this shot.As long as I adjust and aim for it I’m ok.I didn’t know current gear would allow a ball curving like that 
 

I hit my right to left the same way sometimes I just aim for it and there's no issue

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[Big money]

15 hours ago, tommc23 said:

I hit my right to left the same way sometimes I just aim for it and there's no issue

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It’s really a cool ball flight. Some of the guys told me That shot will make the game even more difficult. I somewhat disagree, it’s a consistently massive hook back into the target . All should be fine as I can get this flight consistently and it doesn’t turn into a big push .

[RickyBobby_PR]

19 hours ago, Big money said:

Used the indoor simulator and played 9 holes at spyglass with some other guys.Still massive push draws that start way right and hook in.They were actually amazed how it was curving like this.Its really nuts how my swing just naturally reverted with this shot.As long as I adjust and aim for it I’m ok.I didn’t know current gear would allow a ball curving like that 

 

Sounds like you are coming from way inside and  probably getting stuck and having to roll hands hard to get square/save the shot. Basing this on your previous post about divot. Used this post because of the curve comment. Your dide spin is probably pretty high and with how your face to path is will cause that type of spin/flight. 

Do you see any big pushes that start right and keep going right?

 

[NiftyNiblick]

That was my swing.

I'd  swing decidedly inside out.

The dead pushes usually came with driver, and I'm not sure why.

The ball would try to come back left, but was too far out to do so before getting into trouble.

 

[Big money]

58 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Sounds like you are coming from way inside and  probably getting stuck and having to roll hands hard to get square/save the shot. Basing this on your previous post about divot. Used this post because of the curve comment. Your dide spin is probably pretty high and with how your face to path is will cause that type of spin/flight. 

Do you see any big pushes that start right and keep going right?

 

No , all have major hook spin back to target . Or slightly past target. Nice high trajectory with almost a banana hook spin . Starts well right 

[cnosil]

No , all have major hook spin back to target . Or slightly past target. Nice high trajectory with almost a banana hook spin . Starts well right 

Only a problem on a tight hole where you can’t start it to the right.

[PMookie]

I’ve been fighting this very swing for YEARS. 6* or MORE in-to-out. It can be very challenging, and flipping the wrists is one of my biggest issues.

 

 

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[RickyBobby_PR]

1 hour ago, Big money said:

No , all have major hook spin back to target . Or slightly past target. Nice high trajectory with almost a banana hook spin . Starts well right 

So you have basically timed it well which is good because you will avoid the big push that never comes back until the day your timing is off.  Another good thing is you have adjusted alignment to make it a playable shot.  

13 minutes ago, PMookie said:

I’ve been fighting this very swing for YEARS. 6* or MORE in-to-our. It can be very challenging, and flipping the wrists is one of my biggest issues.


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That will cause it. I fight this type of shot periodically and and when I don’t rotate or flip it’s the push fade or block.  

[Big money]

Yep , this is way too inside. And the club face is open which is a flipping of the hands when I hit it. Makes sense guys. But still a fun shot coming off the club face 

 

[Big money]

Here is the track man today. This was a 6 iron and had some nice hook turn in 

[cnosil]

Here is the track man today. This was a 6 iron and had some nice hook turn in 

Looking at the numbers it doesn’t seem like that big if a hook. I am seeing 2.3 degrees in to out and a slight draw on that tracer.

[Big money]

20 hours ago, cnosil said:

Looking at the numbers it doesn’t seem like that big if a hook. I am seeing 2.3 degrees in to out and a slight draw on that tracer.

This is the odd thing. When I’m at that facility I ‘“ feel’” cramped and restricted.And the ball sitting on a fluffy mat or extremely high tee throws me off .My swing gets more vertical and steeper there.In my mind, my normal swing at this place  will hit the walls in the bay. But on the course I feel no restrictions and then I feel real loopy and flatter. Which turns that draw into a massive push draw. But I seem that I hit further and have more freedom hitting outside on the course. It’s odd I know