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I won’t be leaving the pin in next year, will others?

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2 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

I realized, there IS a legal way to force players to remove the pin most times.  There is actually no USGA Rule governing the size of the flagstick.  So its easy, make the lower part of the flagstick 3 inches in diameter, so that a ball couldn't fit in the hole with the stick in.   You can bet the player will remove it whenever he gets anywhere close.

Interesting.  So, the PGA Tour carries around flagsticks from course to course?   Maybe, but I doubt it.

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8 minutes ago, Kenny B said:

Interesting.  So, the PGA Tour carries around flagsticks from course to course?   Maybe, but I doubt it.

If you believe Bryson, they must, and the USGA uses different ones.  Actually, I bet the PGA does make sure that the flagsticks themselves are consistent from one week to the next.  They try to make the sand consistency similar, make the fairway height consistent, green speeds within tight limits, why not flagsticks too?

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2 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

I realized, there IS a legal way to force players to remove the pin most times.  There is actually no USGA Rule governing the size of the flagstick.  So its easy, make the lower part of the flagstick 3 inches in diameter, so that a ball couldn't fit in the hole with the stick in.   You can bet the player will remove it whenever he gets anywhere close.

I like it.  It would also cut down on those pesky eagles and hole in ones.   Or,  the cardio of the caddies would improve.  Can you imagine Fluff jogging to pull the pin on a par 3?  That's entertainment.  

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Long putts I will leave it in. Uphill putts I would remove it but I could see leaving it in from time to time on mid range downhill putts. I don’t see myself having set rules on it, just kinda deciding each putt what gives me the best advantage


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I'll leave it in ONLY if it's a very long putt and theres no one near to attend it, might speed up some play a bit as when no one is near I usually walk to the pin, pull it and walk back to line up etc

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On 11/15/2018 at 4:23 AM, PMookie said:

“Leave the pin in.......”
Dave Pelz’s study:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.golf.com/instruction/flag-or-out/amp/


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Even though Pelz's study is more than 10 years old, it's probably still valid and seems supported by Bryson's recent brain exercise.

However, Pelz makes no mention of flagstick type.  I have seen fat and thin fiberglass as well as fat and thin metal flagsticks, so need to factor that into your decision.  

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Even though Pelz's study is more than 10 years old, it's probably still valid and seems supported by Bryson's recent brain exercise.
However, Pelz makes no mention of flagstick type.  I have seen fat and thin fiberglass as well as fat and thin metal flagsticks, so need to factor that into your decision.  

Bryson has actually stated his opinion regarding flagstick types and whether he will leave it in or not. Metal and fat pull it, fiberglass leave it in the hole.
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