Golfspy_CG2 25,298 Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 16 hours ago, goaliewales14 said: My Stage 2 is up! Let me know if you have any questions! Very good review of the club and the whole process G. Love the data and videos in your stage 2, man you sure do put a hurting on a ball. That's quite a powerful swing. So I know you tried this testing to find "the" driver and it didn't work out in this case, and your're G LST is a few models old. Any thoughts on trying other new drivers in 2019? Which ones might be on your radar? 3 Quote TSi2 Kuro Kage 50g R Flex TSi2 16.5 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft G410 FW 7 Alta CB R flex G410 Hybrid 26 degree Alta CB R Flex T100S/T200 Combo 5-7 T100S 8-P T200 TT Black Oynx R Flex SM7 54.08 F 58.12 K Heppler Tomcast ProV1X Play number 12 Link to post Share on other sites
goaliewales14 1,340 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Very good review of the club and the whole process G. Love the data and videos in your stage 2, man you sure do put a hurting on a ball. That's quite a powerful swing. So I know you tried this testing to find "the" driver and it didn't work out in this case, and your're G LST is a few models old. Any thoughts on trying other new drivers in 2019? Which ones might be on your radar? Thanks CG2! Right now I have my eye on 2 different drivers, TS2 and G400 LST. Believe it or not, I did hit the TS2 during this time frame, but I felt it was an unfair comparison to throw in since the TS2 was not in the TGF database. The TS2 actually beat the G400 LST head-to-head for me. Average ball speed around 160 mph with average CARRY of 285! We were using trackman and you could lay a dime over all 5 of my hits. I'm trying to take Tony's advice and wait until March, but it's so hard! 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X Gen 2 3 Wood: Taylormade SIM 3 Utility Iron: Srixon U85 4i – AW: Taylormade P760 SW: Vokey SM7 M Grind LW: Cleveland RTX 4 X-Low Putter: Ping Vault Oslo Link to post Share on other sites
GB13 7,778 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) Bump! My stage 2 is up! Thanks again to MGS for this opportunity, and for giving us a place where we can give honest reviews! If y'all have any questions, let me know and I'll do my best to answer them. Edited December 15, 2018 by GB13 3 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to post Share on other sites
Golfspy_CG2 25,298 Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 Bump! My stage 2 is up! Thanks again to MGS for this opportunity, and for giving us a place where we can give honest reviews! If y'all have any questions, let me know and I'll do my best to answer them. Great job on the review. Congrats on finding such great improvement. That red Is easier to take when you're 15 to 20 yards further down the fairway. A true testament to TrueGolfFitSent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote TSi2 Kuro Kage 50g R Flex TSi2 16.5 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft G410 FW 7 Alta CB R flex G410 Hybrid 26 degree Alta CB R Flex T100S/T200 Combo 5-7 T100S 8-P T200 TT Black Oynx R Flex SM7 54.08 F 58.12 K Heppler Tomcast ProV1X Play number 12 Link to post Share on other sites
GB13 7,778 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Great job on the review. Congrats on finding such great improvement. That red Is easier to take when you're 15 to 20 yards further down the fairway. A true testament to TrueGolfFit Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ha! TrueGolfFit certainly worked really well for me. I doubt I could find a better driver through a traditional fitting. And, yes, the red doesn't bother me when I'm hitting 7 iron into greens I used to hit 5 iron into. 1 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to post Share on other sites
Eseay32 666 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 My Stage 2 is up! Let me know if you have any questions!!! 3 Quote <p>Knoxville, TN 4 Hdcp Ping G30 9deg loft Ping G25 3 wood Nike Vapor rescue Ping I irons +1 upright Vokey Sm5 52, 56, 60 TM spider with 1.0 super stroke</p> Link to post Share on other sites
Golfspy_CG2 25,298 Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 My Stage 2 is up! Let me know if you have any questions!!!Great stuff Eseay. I know the feeling left wanting for more good weather to try it more. That's how I feel right now with my 585 irons. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote TSi2 Kuro Kage 50g R Flex TSi2 16.5 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft G410 FW 7 Alta CB R flex G410 Hybrid 26 degree Alta CB R Flex T100S/T200 Combo 5-7 T100S 8-P T200 TT Black Oynx R Flex SM7 54.08 F 58.12 K Heppler Tomcast ProV1X Play number 12 Link to post Share on other sites
GB13 7,778 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Eseay32 said: My Stage 2 is up! Let me know if you have any questions!!! Great job! I'm glad to see that TGF worked for you. If you went for a traditional fitting, do you think you'd get a F8+ with a different shaft or a different head entirely? Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to post Share on other sites
Har in the Hat 1,589 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Tester s Thanks for the reviews. I enjoyed reading them. 2 Quote What's in my Mizuno BR-D2 bag OFFICIAL TESTER FOR THE PING i500 CLUBS. Currently playing Ping i500 w/ Alta CB graphite shafts MP 25 - fitted w/ Project X shafts - stiff 60 / 56 52 910 D2 driver - 9.5 degree -fitted13 F 3 wood 13.5 deg CPR 3 hybrid Method mallet Dexterity: I shoot left-handed so no one can ask me "Hey, can I try that club?" Twitter @GolfingHat Instagram @Mizunostixgolfnut Link to post Share on other sites
Har in the Hat 1,589 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 12/14/2018 at 6:59 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said: Great job on the review. Congrats on finding such great improvement. That red Is easier to take when you're 15 to 20 yards further down the fairway. A true testament to TrueGolfFit Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy That red definitely is "in your face". As Mizuno has gone away with the blue, I think it might be a trend going to simple proven Grey's or blacks. 1 Quote What's in my Mizuno BR-D2 bag OFFICIAL TESTER FOR THE PING i500 CLUBS. Currently playing Ping i500 w/ Alta CB graphite shafts MP 25 - fitted w/ Project X shafts - stiff 60 / 56 52 910 D2 driver - 9.5 degree -fitted13 F 3 wood 13.5 deg CPR 3 hybrid Method mallet Dexterity: I shoot left-handed so no one can ask me "Hey, can I try that club?" Twitter @GolfingHat Instagram @Mizunostixgolfnut Link to post Share on other sites
Eseay32 666 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Great job! I'm glad to see that TGF worked for you. If you went for a traditional fitting, do you think you'd get a F8+ with a different shaft or a different head entirely? Well I can certainly say that I’ve had my eye on the F8+ just from the reviews and conversations on this forum. Had I went the traditional route I would have definitely wanted to at least try it and could see myself ending up with. That’s not to say there isn’t a driver out there that would reduce my spin, narrow my dispersion and add distance that isn’t a cobra. As for the shaft I want to get fit to see if there’s a shaft that suits me Better. Global was limited in their shaft options obviously and had we not been with MGS I’m not sure I could’ve got a stiff shaft from them and honestly I probably need an XS. So to answer your question...I’m not sure but I could def see myself ending up with the Cobra as an option Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote <p>Knoxville, TN 4 Hdcp Ping G30 9deg loft Ping G25 3 wood Nike Vapor rescue Ping I irons +1 upright Vokey Sm5 52, 56, 60 TM spider with 1.0 super stroke</p> Link to post Share on other sites
revkev 22,523 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 The guys have done a nice job - thanks.I think it’s important to remember that Trufit is aimed at people who are most likely to buy stock and at most monkey with the loft on their driver a bit. In some ways we aren’t a great test group for it. I have a friend who tried it and has gained yardage and consistency for very little money - bought his M4 on eBay. He had to ask me what shaft to choose. That’s scary Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 6 Quote Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex Ping G410 5-9 wood Wilson D7 forged 6-GW - Mamiya recoil 460 R flex SCOR 52,60 EVNRoll ER 5 Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag. Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. Link to post Share on other sites
Eseay32 666 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 The guys have done a nice job - thanks.I think it’s important to remember that Trufit is aimed at people who are most likely to buy stock and at most monkey with the loft on their driver a bit. In some ways we aren’t a great test group for it. I have a friend who tried it and has gained yardage and consistency for very little money - bought his M4 on eBay. He had to ask me what shaft to choose. That’s scary Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyI’m a pretty experienced golfer, played a ton over the years and played competitively in college but growing up I was never a tech junkie or equipment junkie. My family was on a budget, I played the clubs that my grandpa could get from the pro shop or something we found discounted. I played stock everything. So even now, I don’t know a ton about clubs, how the compare differently for each player, shafts etc. I mean I only found out last year I should probably play 1-2 degrees up on my irons and have only been on a real launch monitor once. THe great part about TGF for me is it offered 2 heads that I may never have consideredIn the future, if/when TGF adds some shaft options it’s going to be a real game changer. As I said in my review I’m lost when it comes to shafts, I know I’m stiff, maybe XS but there’s so many ever changing choices so I can feel your friends pain! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 3 Quote <p>Knoxville, TN 4 Hdcp Ping G30 9deg loft Ping G25 3 wood Nike Vapor rescue Ping I irons +1 upright Vokey Sm5 52, 56, 60 TM spider with 1.0 super stroke</p> Link to post Share on other sites
GB13 7,778 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 11 hours ago, Har in the Hat said: That red definitely is "in your face". As Mizuno has gone away with the blue, I think it might be a trend going to simple proven Grey's or blacks. In my opinion, that is a good thing. I think that "in your face" color options can alienate some consumers from your product. I have never heard someone say, "I won't buy it because it's gray/black." I do think Cobra has it figured out by offering one bold color and one traditional color. 1 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to post Share on other sites
GB13 7,778 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, revkev said: The guys have done a nice job - thanks. I think it’s important to remember that Trufit is aimed at people who are most likely to buy stock and at most monkey with the loft on their driver a bit. In some ways we aren’t a great test group for it. I have a friend who tried it and has gained yardage and consistency for very little money - bought his M4 on eBay. He had to ask me what shaft to choose. That’s scary Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Thanks. I agree. TGF isn't for the equipment junkies, it is meant for people like your friend. Your friend is a good testament as to why TGF is a great idea. In fact, it might be a better testament than 4 forum golfers. Without TGF, he'd have either stayed with his old driver, or bought a driver without any prior knowledge, probably ending up with a poor fit. With TGF, he was able to get a driver that would perform solidly, maybe not the "best" fit but he ended up with a driver that at least performs well his game. Here in lies the conundrum though, if TGF is for less serious golfers, 99% of them probably don't know what TGF is. Edited December 16, 2018 by GB13 3 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to post Share on other sites
revkev 22,523 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 3 hours ago, GB13 said: Thanks. I agree. TGF isn't for the equipment junkies, it is meant for people like your friend. Your friend is a good testament as to why TGF is a great idea. In fact, it might be a better testament than 4 forum golfers. Without TGF, he'd have either stayed with his old driver, or bought a driver without any prior knowledge, probably ending up with a poor fit. With TGF, he was able to get a driver that would perform solidly, maybe not the "best" fit but he ended up with a driver that at least performs well his game. Here in lies the conundrum though, if TGF is for less serious golfers, 99% of them probably don't know what TGF is. Exactly my point - you guys are seeing some nice results but imagine someone like Dennis - for him this is off the charts. He would have just bought what he saw his favorite pro using or his friends using if anything - now he's in the game. That's huge! 4 Quote Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex Ping G410 5-9 wood Wilson D7 forged 6-GW - Mamiya recoil 460 R flex SCOR 52,60 EVNRoll ER 5 Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag. Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. Link to post Share on other sites
goaliewales14 1,340 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 hours ago, GB13 said: Here in lies the conundrum though, if TGF is for less serious golfers, 99% of them probably don't know what TGF is. This is what I've been trying to workout during this whole test. The main idea I had was if TGF could partner with a retailer to get the tool at the point where the driver would be bought. I feel that unless it is right at the point of purchase, that it will be difficult for those less serious golfers to know about TGF. Example, if you walked into a Golf Galaxy store and a terminal equipped with TGF was sitting right next to the hitting bay to purchase a fitting. This would also allow those less serious golfers to get a good idea of swing speed, angle of attack, and tempo. The issue with partnering with a retailer would be that all of those retailers have fitters within their stores. 3 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X Gen 2 3 Wood: Taylormade SIM 3 Utility Iron: Srixon U85 4i – AW: Taylormade P760 SW: Vokey SM7 M Grind LW: Cleveland RTX 4 X-Low Putter: Ping Vault Oslo Link to post Share on other sites
GB13 7,778 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, goaliewales14 said: This is what I've been trying to workout during this whole test. The main idea I had was if TGF could partner with a retailer to get the tool at the point where the driver would be bought. I feel that unless it is right at the point of purchase, that it will be difficult for those less serious golfers to know about TGF. Example, if you walked into a Golf Galaxy store and a terminal equipped with TGF was sitting right next to the hitting bay to purchase a fitting. This would also allow those less serious golfers to get a good idea of swing speed, angle of attack, and tempo. The issue with partnering with a retailer would be that all of those retailers have fitters within their stores. 100% agree. That seems to be the only way to get adequate usage of TGF. Golf Galaxy does have fitters in store, but most less serious golfers I know buy from GG online, not in store. Could they partner with online retailers (Golf Galaxy, Global, 2nd Swing, Ect.) though? Example, if they partnered with, Golf Galaxy online, could there be a prompt when you click on "drivers" that says, "The TGF fitting engine can find you the best driver for your game." Then, at the end, Golf Galaxy would have a try it now button. It could drum up business for both TGF and Golf Galaxy would see an increase in sales. (Or at least I think Golf Galaxy would.) That would be the only way I'd see it working. In store, they have "fitters" so you wouldn't need TGF. 1 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to post Share on other sites
Eseay32 666 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I think ideally you would want to work it in both directions. Initially they have it configured that TGF drives you to Global and we have reviewed that and the kinks it has. The next step is expanding to the other companies and working backwards. Have them put on their sites or in stores a link/banner/ad to go to TGF to find your fit, and then driven back to the site to buy/test/etc. it’s probably not enough to have TGF that will need its own marketing to become aware that the site exists. If they are gonna drive people to Global and the Utry program, Global has to drive people to TGF (and then back). Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote <p>Knoxville, TN 4 Hdcp Ping G30 9deg loft Ping G25 3 wood Nike Vapor rescue Ping I irons +1 upright Vokey Sm5 52, 56, 60 TM spider with 1.0 super stroke</p> Link to post Share on other sites
Golfspy_CG2 25,298 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 10:00 AM, goaliewales14 said: Thanks CG2! Right now I have my eye on 2 different drivers, TS2 and G400 LST. Believe it or not, I did hit the TS2 during this time frame, but I felt it was an unfair comparison to throw in since the TS2 was not in the TGF database. The TS2 actually beat the G400 LST head-to-head for me. Average ball speed around 160 mph with average CARRY of 285! We were using trackman and you could lay a dime over all 5 of my hits. I'm trying to take Tony's advice and wait until March, but it's so hard! I have my eye on the TS2 as well, as I've heard some astonishing results about it. I too am trying to wait, at least until the PGA Show Demo Day where I can try a few of them. On 12/14/2018 at 9:13 PM, GB13 said: Ha! TrueGolfFit certainly worked really well for me. I doubt I could find a better driver through a traditional fitting. And, yes, the red doesn't bother me when I'm hitting 7 iron into greens I used to hit 5 iron into. I forwarded this link on to Adam for him to review, and mentioned your success with it to him. On 12/16/2018 at 8:34 AM, Eseay32 said: I’m a pretty experienced golfer, played a ton over the years and played competitively in college but growing up I was never a tech junkie or equipment junkie. My family was on a budget, I played the clubs that my grandpa could get from the pro shop or something we found discounted. I played stock everything. So even now, I don’t know a ton about clubs, how the compare differently for each player, shafts etc. I mean I only found out last year I should probably play 1-2 degrees up on my irons and have only been on a real launch monitor once. THe great part about TGF for me is it offered 2 heads that I may never have considered In the future, if/when TGF adds some shaft options it’s going to be a real game changer. As I said in my review I’m lost when it comes to shafts, I know I’m stiff, maybe XS but there’s so many ever changing choices so I can feel your friends pain! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I'm sure you guys saw the thread that went up today with the updated press release from TGF! Good stuff coming! 2 Quote TSi2 Kuro Kage 50g R Flex TSi2 16.5 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft G410 FW 7 Alta CB R flex G410 Hybrid 26 degree Alta CB R Flex T100S/T200 Combo 5-7 T100S 8-P T200 TT Black Oynx R Flex SM7 54.08 F 58.12 K Heppler Tomcast ProV1X Play number 12 Link to post Share on other sites
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