Sen Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Like title says, I'm finding out after 10 rounds or so I only ever use my 54 sand wedge like twice in 10 rounds. Since I'm only ever using it in the bunker, I wanna see if I can optimize that spot. I do not need anything for pitching/chipping/versatility. Purely for sand magic, whether it is stiff bunker from cheap courses or soft bunkers from the snooty ones, what sand wedge will you always rely on and never sell? Let me know, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 My Dad has one that had a “sand paper-like” face on it! Hilarious! Talk about SPIN! Only had to replace your ball after every OTHER shot!!!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro srooch2 and AH1980MN 1 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 My favorite sand wedge ever was a Cleveland 900 gunmetal 58*Best wedge ever made. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Ping Eye 2 for me Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy AH1980MN and bens197 1 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Anything round. I liked an oval face and curved leading edge in the sand (soft sand, I mean). Alien Ultimate, believe it or not, was as good as anything, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Callaway Sure-Out Charli and DaJoeyNJ 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Here is a great MGS article on the best specialty sand wedges: https://mygolfspy.com/nfomercial-wedge-test-mygolfspy/ According to the article, the best specialty sand wedge is the C3I with Cleveland Smartsole following closely behind. A traditional wedge and the Callaway Sure Out finished in a distant 3rd and 4th respectively. Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 Interesting, doesn't look the sure out or the touredge 1 out plus are included in that testing. Judging from "internet reviews" it seems like the Tour Edge 1 out plus should have been a good contender for those chunky sand wedge line ups. GB13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 For me it's the Cleveland Smartsole. Money for me out of a greenside bunker. johnny city and tony@CIC 2 Quote In the bag: Driver: TSR2 Project X HZRDUS Black 5.5 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Alpha Convoy 514 Balls: Chrome Soft X Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 ... Since you never hit the ball on the face the only thing that matters, other than looking good to your eye of course, is the sole grind. If you get that right for your swing, any wedge will be sand magic. The fly in the ointment happens when you play in different regions than you do at home. Some Florida courses use very soft sand and the more bounce the better. Then in Phoenix most courses have little if any sand, so the less bounce the better. I have additional travel wedges I use to address those situations. MattF and tony@CIC 2 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I can't say what's the best ever. I'd imagine each of us have or have had a few during our careers. Our wedges tend to change often too. At least as far replacement is concerned. I play what might be considered mid or low-bounce wedges. In my area I mostly play on firm bermuda turf and tight-firm bunkers mostly. However, there are two holes on my home course where the green and surrounding bunkers were redesigned a few years ago. The bunkers were poorly designed for starters and the sand.... well imagine this - you gouge-out some holes around the greens and then back up a dump truck and fill them with sand. It's like walking on sand dunes!! The sand will cover your shoes. It's ridiculous. I probably should buy myself a C3i wedge for these two holes only. Fortunately I rarely find my ball in them. MattF and tony@CIC 2 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I find it truly amazing that of all the frequent contributors to our forum, I seem to be the only one to have a serious preference for a very curved leading edge in the sand. Maybe age had something to do with it. The old sand irons back in the day were oval-faced clubs. Then people started hitting those higher lofted irons/wedges from the grass, because they were now playing to stop the ball instead of running it up, and the leading edges straightened out to accommodate that. Most didn't want to take up a space in their set for a sand-specific club, but even at that, somebody must have noticed what a curved leading edge does in the sand. This must have changed long enough ago that most modern players never used a round sand iron. silver & black and BIG STU 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 Interesting convos, those with a bigger sole and "cavity back" like smart sole. Do you think you had more issues controlling the distance out of the bunker? How about spin? I'd think the design makes it spin a lot less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sen said: Interesting convos, those with a bigger sole and "cavity back" like smart sole. Do you think you had more issues controlling the distance out of the bunker? How about spin? I'd think the design makes it spin a lot less? ... Sen again, out of the bunker the cavity back design is irrelevant. Since the only thing touching the sand is the sole on a standard sand shot, the determining factor for spin is technique, speed and how close to the ball you make contact. The cavity back comes into play on full swings as well as chips and pitches. BIG STU and cnosil 2 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, chisag said: .. Sen again, out of the bunker the cavity back design is irrelevant. Since the only thing touching the sand is the sole on a standard sand shot, the determining factor for spin is technique, speed and how close to the ball you make contact. The cavity back comes into play on full swings as well as chips and pitches. Totally skipped what you mentioned earlier, this makes a lot of sense. Like you mentioned earlier though, AZ has many hard bunkers with the consistency of what I would say..."mud" on them. The ones that makes your club skids and spews out mud splatters instead of sand shots, do you think the design is a little more important? I too carry a relatively low bounce (6) for sand in AZ, anything bigger just make me think it'd kick up and blade the thing across the green or worse, ride the lip back and hit me in the face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 ... Sure, if you are picking it clean and mishit the ball out of a hardpan lie in a Phoenix bunker, the cavity back might help some. But it is such a short shot the effect will be minimal. And of course if it is a thin layer of wet sand, you are digging with the leading edge so again the only thing hitting the ball is the wet sand and the cavity design is irrelevant. cnosil and null 2 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 The best sand iron is the one you practice with. As in you need to practice to be a good sand player regardless of the wedge that you use. No "magic" about it. Good luck srooch2, cnosil, AH1980MN and 3 others 6 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 3 hours ago, NiftyNiblick said: I find it truly amazing that of all the frequent contributors to our forum, I seem to be the only one to have a serious preference for a very curved leading edge in the sand. Maybe age had something to do with it. The old sand irons back in the day were oval-faced clubs. Then people started hitting those higher lofted irons/wedges from the grass, because they were now playing to stop the ball instead of running it up, and the leading edges straightened out to accommodate that. Most didn't want to take up a space in their set for a sand-specific club, but even at that, somebody must have noticed what a curved leading edge does in the sand. This must have changed long enough ago that most modern players never used a round sand iron. I really wouldn't know, Nifty. I started playing golf at 40. I'm 59 now. All I have ever played... and still do, is Vokey wedges. I use a 54* in the sand the majority of the time. NiftyNiblick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1958 Wilson staff or older 588 Clevelands---- I am also a fan of several older Hogan Sand wedges---- The problem around here is the consistency of the sand even on the same course and sometimes between the bunkers on the same green. Lately I have been carrying a NOS Macgregor LRA 56 which is an older wedge but mine is brand new. It has basically a neutral sole grind and low bounce. Most versatile wedge I have ever seen. downlowkey, chisag, srooch2 and 1 other 4 Quote Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djahubes Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I go back and forth but the CBX is fantastic for greenside bunkers. The only reason I take it out sometimes is bc of utilization. I prefer a more traditional wedge for chipping, etc. if I’m playing a heavily bunkered course, my 58* CBX will always be thereSent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy johnny city 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedgie Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I go back and forth but the CBX is fantastic for greenside bunkers. The only reason I take it out sometimes is bc of utilization. I prefer a more traditional wedge for chipping, etc. if I’m playing a heavily bunkered course, my 58* CBX will always be thereSent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyI’ll second that. The CBX has been great out of the sand for me as well. That is coming from a guy who only hits bunker shots during a round.Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy johnny city 1 Quote Wedgie Driver - XXIO X Driver 9.5 - Launcher Turbo 2 hybrid - F9 One Length 3-L - ER 1.2 Top Flite Gamer Play Right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 13 hours ago, silver & black said: I really wouldn't know, Nifty. I started playing golf at 40. I'm 59 now. All I have ever played... and still do, is Vokey wedges. I use a 54* in the sand the majority of the time. I started playing at fourteen and I'm seventy-two, S&B. So yes, I guess the oval sand irons were definitely before your time. The reduced sand resistance was the thing. The curved leading edge cut a groove through the sand. It splashed a rooster tail of sand instead of a huge cloud, whether the face was square or laid open. So while the Rev is absolutely correct about practice being the key, the modern, all-purpose wedge makes it a lot easier to leave your shot in the bunker if you don't. It's not just about sand saves. It's about putting on the next shot. Many seniors simply cannot practice much. If they do, they've nothing left to actually play. silver & black and AH1980MN 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, NiftyNiblick said: Many seniors simply cannot practice much. If they do, they've nothing left to actually play. Hmmm I hope some of our members don't see this. We have several in their late 70's that are on the range almost every day then will go out and play 18. We also have s a 94 yr old who not only practices almost every day and plays 9 - but also take lessons as well (now there's an optimist). GB13, johnny city, silver & black and 4 others 5 1 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Many seniors simply cannot practice much. If they do, they've nothing left to actually play. 39 minutes ago, tony@CIC said: Hmmm I hope some of our members don't see this. We have several in their late 70's that are on the range almost every day then will go out and play 18. We also have s a 94 yr old who not only practices almost every day and plays 9 - but also take lessons as well (now there's an optimist). I believe you, Tony, but.... many seniors simply cannot practice much. If they do, they've nothing left to actually play. Anyway, the point is that if you're willing to use up one of your fourteen allotted clubs for a sand-shot-specific club, the old-fashioned oval-faced sand iron is still the easiest club to use for purely structural reasons. 3ironpunch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 These Edel wedges are ridiculous. They sand off all of that heel that EVERY other company has on their wedges, and by doing this, one can lay-open the wedge and get it the flattest to the ground I’ve ever seen! No leading edge halfway up the golf ball! They’re so versatile, probably the most in the market. I love mine, and this is my second set of them.No need to send a wedge off for grinding and pay extra, you can buy it this way!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro GB13, tommc23, cnosil and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 These Edel wedges are ridiculous. They sand off all of that heel that EVERY other company has on their wedges, and by doing this, one can lay-open the wedge and get it the flattest to the ground I’ve ever seen! No leading edge halfway up the gold ball! They’re so versatile, probably the most in the market. I love mine, and this is my second set of them.No need to send a wedge off for grinding and pay extra, you can buy it this way!!!!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProThere is an Edel fifty 6 in the most wanted wedge testing. I was impressed when I tested this club. I am not sure what grid it has, but it did sit flat on the ground. Very noticeable compared to the others and it also had more of a rounded leading edge. PMookie and Rickp 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 minute ago, PMookie said: These Edel wedges are ridiculous. They sand off all of that heel that EVERY other company has on their wedges, and by doing this, one can lay-open the wedge and get it the flattest to the ground I’ve ever seen! No leading edge halfway up the gold ball! They’re so versatile, probably the most in the market. I love mine, and this is my second set of them. No need to send a wedge off for grinding and pay extra, you can buy it this way!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Nooooo, now I need new wedges!!! That is a seriously good idea. I always struggle opening my wedges up really far without hitting the heel into the ground and twisting the face closed. This will solve that problem. tommc23, Rickp, cnosil and 1 other 4 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Best sand wedge is the one that gives you the most confidence to hit the shot. The wand must match the wizard. tony@CIC, GB13, MattF and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 13 hours ago, Shankster said: Best sand wedge is the one that gives you the most confidence to hit the shot. The wand must match the wizard. ... That is just awesome and I am gonna steal that line Shankster! silver & black, tony@CIC and tommc23 3 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Just saw these Harry Taylor Wedges from MGGOlf.com.....https://www.mggolf.com/golf-wedges/Has anyone tried them?Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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