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Maybe I missed the news (was 4 weeks on vacation away from my phone and PC) but has Callaway released the replacement for their Apex CF16? Thought it would be due by now after the 2 year cycle...

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Nothing that I can recall but they haven’t officially announced anything new yet. My guess if the next version will be announced just before or at the pga show 

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56 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Nothing that I can recall but they haven’t officially announced anything new yet. My guess if the next version will be announced just before or at the pga show 

I thought new toys are usually announced by the end of the season around November... oh well, I guess will have to wait it out. Wanted to try it before going for a Mizuno or Srixon set.

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34 minutes ago, Kanoito said:

I thought new toys are usually announced by the end of the season around November... oh well, I guess will have to wait it out. Wanted to try it before going for a Mizuno or Srixon set.

Depends on the brand. Callaway the last couple years from what I recall have waited to around the pga show. TaylorMade sometimes in mid-late dec or Jan.  Ping has been both in the fall or Jan depends if they go 18 or 24 months.

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The original Apex were legit, and one of the most widely “fitted” clubs by fitters! I didn’t care for the CF16 as they had “hot spots” and were so inconsistent distance-wise. I’d love to see these be solid and not be for “distance”, but they’ll need to compete with the P790, so I know it’s a pipe-dream. I never meshed with the Apex Pros, either the 2014 model, or the 2016 model.


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18 minutes ago, PMookie said:

The original Apex were legit, and one of the most widely “fitted” clubs by fitters! I didn’t care for the CF16 as they had “hot spots” and were so inconsistent distance-wise. I’d love to see these be solid and not be for “distance”, but they’ll need to compete with the P790, so I know it’s a pipe-dream. I never meshed with the Apex Pros, either the 2014 model, or the 2016 model.


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I saw similar issues with cf16. While not in the same category as p790 I do agree they will face stiff competition from golfers

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Thanks for the info, guys.

I read a lot of people had the distance issues, but I didn't seem to find any. Probably cause I never hit the same spot twice 🤣

Didnt play the original ones, but the CF16 were legit for me. Forgiving, soft feeling... so if the new version can improve it even more... then it's worth the wait...

If not, then I'll probably go 919F or a Srixon combo... can't wait for next season!

 

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3 hours ago, Kanoito said:

Thanks for the info, guys.

I read a lot of people had the distance issues, but I didn't seem to find any. Probably cause I never hit the same spot twice 🤣

Didnt play the original ones, but the CF16 were legit for me. Forgiving, soft feeling... so if the new version can improve it even more... then it's worth the wait...

If not, then I'll probably go 919F or a Srixon combo... can't wait for next season!

 

I say wait and test them all. 

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I love my Callaway Apex CF16’s... I vowed to never to replace them, but if new ones come out I’ll give them a shot!


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1 minute ago, GC70 said:

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Wow... those really look nice. And they are right about the type of clubs I would play. Will be trying in the spring. 

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Just not a fan of the look. With Srixon, Mizuno, Ping, TM and Titleist delivering on looks, feel and performance in that sane category it will be another hard pass on Callaway for me. Another release that doesn’t look good to my eye

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Looks great to me! Loved hitting the CF16's. Looking forward to what the new offerings are.

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It definitely has that Legacy Black look, the Callaway irons that Stenson plays.


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Like I said earlier in the thread, the 2014 model was great, the ‘16 not-so-much. I hope these perform like the 2014. I’d hate it if they had hot spots again. Callaway and others have been on the distance kick with irons, so hopefully these could be a set that offer choices of lofts like Ping, or are consistent across the face without lofts jacked 3*. My ‘14 Apex were in my bag for almost 2 years...


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I played the 2014 models quite a bit (had two sets) and replaced them with Rogue Pros after a brief stint with the Epic Pros. If the new Apex Pros are as good as I am hearing the are Callaway can just take my money now.


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They are not as pretty compared to the JPX919 / Srixon. But if they perform like my CF16, I'll have to give them a swing. Thanks for sharing.

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I played the 2014 models quite a bit (had two sets) and replaced them with Rogue Pros after a brief stint with the Epic Pros. If the new Apex Pros are as good as I am hearing the are Callaway can just take my money now.


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I thought that the X Forged was essentially the new Apex Pro. Am I wrong on this?


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41 minutes ago, Rtracymog said:


I thought that the X Forged was essentially the new Apex Pro. Am I wrong on this?


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Separated line. The x forged are their “CB” type club to go with the MBs that wer released.

from what I recall it was the first release of that nature since 2013.  They held off on apex/apex pro because the current ones were doing so well

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2 hours ago, Rtracymog said:


I thought that the X Forged was essentially the new Apex Pro. Am I wrong on this?


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Yeah, I thought so too. Apparently these are are going to be more in the players distance category while the XF are more in the players category. 

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Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

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One of the differences between x forged and apex pro is the use of the cup face. 

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Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

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5 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Separated line. The x forged are their “CB” type club to go with the MBs that wer released.

from what I recall it was the first release of that nature since 2013.  They held off on apex/apex pro because the current ones were doing so well

That's the way I see it as well.  A bit of history from what I recall.

In Feb 2013, as part of a pro am package, I was lucky enough to have  the choice of 2 new irons from Callaway the X Forged or the X Hot.  I really liked and wanted the X Forged, but had already noticed a slowing of my swing, so I went with the X Hot which were the original in the X Hot line and were very good. 

Then in late 2013 early 2014 they released the Apex versions and then in fall/winter of 2015 came the CF 16, after that the releases came so fast and furious in the X and Apex lines, they became very blurred. 

 

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Here is the Pro version

 

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On 12/13/2018 at 9:28 AM, GC70 said:

Her is the Pro version

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Very similar look to the X-forged in my opinion. Better looking? Not quite sure. After owning a couple of sets of irons that are not traditional looking, I think that might be more what I lean to next time. Classic looks are classic for a reason.

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