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... Dave, you reminded me that as long as you are not posting a score for handicap purposes, you are free to make your own Tee Combo. I have played with groups that play the par 3/5's from the back tees but move up a tee box for all par 4's. And others that just put a limit on distances like 420 or under for par 4's, 525 or under for par 5's and 190 and under for par 3's and they circle the hole before teeing off so they know which tees to play. 

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I'm knocking on the door of 60, and I guess I'm just an old grumpy dude. I don't care what tees everybody plays from, My criteria for what tees I play from is par 3 in 1, par 4 in 2 and par 5 in 3 str

... Always an interesting topic. I would start by saying most people that play golf cannot reach par 5's in two strokes. As a +indeex at 65 I can probably rich about 25% of par 5's in 2, an on some co

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4 minutes ago, Har in the Hat said:

 Is that my ego speaking? 

Ego plays a role in it for me. My foursome members looked at me funny when I said I was playing combo, but they also bomb it 50+ past me off the tee. Hitting 3H when they are hitting short irons is an ego blow as well.

Makes it fun is my new life goal.

The rest is just negative self talk and pride. And Marsellus Wallace taught us about the value of pride.

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... Dave, you reminded me that as long as you are not posting a score for handicap purposes, you are free to make your own Tee Combo. I have played with groups that play the par 3/5's from the back tees but move up a tee box for all par 4's. And others that just put a limit on distances like 420 or under for par 4's, 525 or under for par 5's and 190 and under for par 3's and they circle the hole before teeing off so they know which tees to play. 

That's a great idea for casual rounds. 👍

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My club actually has three combo tees that are rated (normally - right now we can't post because of the repair work being done to 17).  There is a Gold/Blue, Blue/White (the MGA tees) and Green/White (Senior MGA).  I honestly like to play the White but will move up on a couple of the par 4's and back on a couple of par 3's - it creates greater balance IMO - when you play the straight whites there are 5 par 4's that are over 400 yards long - other than in the winter when the ball runs out it will mean that there are two of them that I can't each in 2 (assuming there's any wind and given that the course is a mile from the Gulf of Mexico there's normally some at least.) 

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That's what I want to hear. I am also busy with cardio,stretching, and strengthening exercises.  Even though, when I was testing the Ping i500's without a driver and hence moved up to the white tees, that is not where I want to stay. Is that my ego speaking? 

Probably [emoji16]


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3 hours ago, revkev said:

My club actually has three combo tees that are rated (normally - right now we can't post because of the repair work being done to 17).  There is a Gold/Blue, Blue/White (the MGA tees) and Green/White (Senior MGA).  I honestly like to play the White but will move up on a couple of the par 4's and back on a couple of par 3's - it creates greater balance IMO - when you play the straight whites there are 5 par 4's that are over 400 yards long - other than in the winter when the ball runs out it will mean that there are two of them that I can't each in 2 (assuming there's any wind and given that the course is a mile from the Gulf of Mexico there's normally some at least.) 

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4 hours ago, GolfSpy Dave said:

My usual course added blue/white combo tees this year, and I played them for the first time a few months ago. Drops yardage from 6700 to 6300. No huge difference in scoring, but way more fun to play. I'll definitely be playing these tees this soggy winter. Once fairway roll returns in the spring, we will see about going back to blue.

Haggin Oaks?  I liked that course.

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I play a couple 9-hole courses around me and we will normally switch tees for the par 3’s just to create different looks. I have been trying to get my father to move up tees since he only hits it at most 220. He is adamant that he don’t want to play them tees when everybody else is playing back. So when it is just the two of us, I play the forward tees with him trying to get him to realize how much more fun he would have. I am hoping next year it will sink in!

I am a firm believer in playing whatever tees you want and however you want as long as you aren’t posting a score.


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In the Netherlands where I live and play the Dutch Golf Federation has issued guidelines as to which tees are appropriate for different levels of player. Typically we have 5 tees here - white are the back tees ( tips ? ), yellow are for everyday play, blue are a mix of red and yellow, red are what used to be called the ladies tees, and orange are very short for beginners.
They reckon to play from the tips you need to be able to hit it 240 yards plus, yellow a minimum of 210, blue a minimum of 175. Of course most people think they hit it further that they actually do, but I've persuaded my colleagues and many others to play from blue instead of automatically marching to yellow - with much more pleasurable results and more fun generally , which is what we're aiming for right ! Plus it speeds up play...
We need more of that kind of guidance here in the US .. eg. maybe some sort of signage at the 1st tee box along the lines of.. 'if you *CARRY* your tee shot NNN yards use the (whichever) tee on this course'.

What I'm understanding as a bunch of you guys are saying when golf is fun - is hitting your tee shot into each hole's preferred / designed landing zone.......
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It’s the normal set of tees for guys under 60. The course is 6500 from there. Course rating is 72.7 slope 134. The tips are 7200 course rating of 74.7 slope of 144. You could play a tour event at my club if you set the course up that way, no need to do anything but double cut the greens, grow the rough thicker, bring in the fairways a few yards and convert one of the front nine par 5’s to a long par 4 by using a forward tee.

 

 

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Tour Exotics 3 wood is in the bag because we are allowed 14 clubs.  It's a great club for pulling balls out of the water or from bushes - you never want to put your hand into anything in Florida unless you are absolutely certain that it's safe.  There are rare wind conditions when I might hit it off the tee on a few holes that I play.  

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I've pretty much played from the white tees all my life.  Occasionally we might play a hole from the blue/black just for fun, but never a complete round. I see way too many folks on courses playing from blue and black that have no business doing so.  Unless you're a low single digit handicap player, you should be playing white or closer. Certainly part of this is male ego/brawn replacing common sense. But I think some of it is due to pretty significant shifts in driver technology and increased distance (I'm going back to Persimmon days). The problem with most of those playing from the back tees is that they have to follow up the drives with that part of the game that requires considerably more skill.  Big drives followed up with duffs and worm-burners is entertaining... for a few holes anyway.

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12 hours ago, GolfSpy Dave said:

Ancil Hoffman GC is the current weekly stroll location.

I played both Haggin Oaks and Ancil Hoffman lots of times during my teens and while in college.  My Dad played these regularly with guys from work and when they were short a player, they ask me to fill in - great memories.

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Our weekly game has players from the White tees(6,000 yds) and Gold(5,500 yds). The Gold is for players 65 and older. When on vacation @ Hilton Head Island, we play somewhere between 5,000 and 5,700 yds because we wanna enjoy the game.


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I see way too many folks on courses playing from blue and black that have no business doing so.  Unless you're a low single digit handicap player, you should be playing white or closer. Certainly part of this is male ego/brawn replacing common sense.
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A very large part, IMHO.

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I've often experienced guys in carts playing back and playing slower than my wife and I walking and playing forward.

I well remember one of my first lessons when the instructor said:
"200 in the fairway beats 250 in the woods."
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... I think I posted this before but I think it is a good story about tee boxes. I was paired up with 3 Indian gentlemen in their late 60's that played Encino's back tees at 6933. None of them broke 125 and 2 of them were probably closer to 150. But they played fast, kept up and we still waited on every tee. I was playing the next tees up at 6564 and after 9 holes I asked them why they were playing the back tees. They told me they were trying to "maximize their dollar value" and that I paid twice as much to play as they did. LOL, I told them I paid the exact same price they did but they insisted I was paying about 50 cents a shot and they were only paying about 20 cents a shot so I was paying MUCH more. 🤣

... They admitted they were bad gofers and the only way to improve is to hit as many shots as possible. They were very aware of time and often hit too quickly negating the effect of hitting more shots. But they were a real joy to play with, very pleasant company, always respected my shots and never moved or distracted me when I was getting ready to hit, although they did not afford each other that courtesy. I started off thinking these guys were a nightmare and finished thinking it was one of the most enjoyable rounds of golf I have ever experienced.  I eagled the last hole for a 69 and they had never played with anyone that shot near let alone under par and one of them gave me his lucky coin to remember the day I shared with them.

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nice story @chisag 

Reminds me of when I hosted 3 Americans at Gleneagles who had played about 5 minutes of golf in their life!

It started with a plethora of fresh air shots, thins, duffs and lots of cursing.........3 off them had about 25 shots each on the 1st.

I thought "what the **** have I let myself in for" but they moved fast, didnt get angry, we had good conversations and they thoroughly enjoyed the experience. So did I after about the 8th as we kept moving along at a nice pace and never held anyone up.

 

I've played with scratch golfers that took an eternity to play and hardly spoke a word all the way round. I know what I preferred 😉 

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8 minutes ago, perseveringgolfer said:

nice story @chisag 

Reminds me of when I hosted 3 Americans at Gleneagles who had played about 5 minutes of golf in their life!

It started with a plethora of fresh air shots, thins, duffs and lots of cursing.........3 off them had about 25 shots each on the 1st.

I thought "what the **** have I let myself in for" but they moved fast, didnt get angry, we had good conversations and they thoroughly enjoyed the experience. So did I after about the 8th as we kept moving along at a nice pace and never held anyone up.

 

I've played with scratch golfers that took an eternity to play and hardly spoke a word all the way round. I know what I preferred 😉 

Reminds me some of tournament golf.  We played with two nice teenagers on Friday that didn't say much and hit the snot out of it.  Beat us by some 12 strokes.  They played kinda slow and we dragged along waiting for them to hit the next shot.

The next day we were paired with two other teams that scored about like we did the day before.  Because we all knew we were all out of it, the jokes started flying on about the 3rd hole, and every misshit and crappy shot was met with laughter and shoulder shrugs.  The funniest hole of the day was on a closing par 5, where one guy literally topped his ball about 30 yards off the tee.  It was alternate shot, so he didn't have to hit again until after his partner bailed him out into the fairway.  He pulls his next club for the next shot and did something I've never seen before.  He topped the ball with backspin, and it literally went 5 yards BACKWARDS!  The entire group was so out of it by then that we all bust out laughing something fierce.  The guy that hit the shot just bent over in laughter and sort of just shrugged his shoulders.  Man what a day though, as we had the most fun playing that round.  And I won't get into the conversations we had about "swing lube."  LOL.  Good times!

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I’m 37, “can” hit driver 300 (at times) and I play the whites because I know my game and know it’s more fun. I’m not good enough to play the blues and be content afterwards


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In My neck of the woods, Most courses typically have 3 sets of tee, Maybe 4. Red ( ladies, typically) White ( mens), Blue or Black, and championship ( if they have them).. I play the whites, which i have since I started. I have played further back and also closer.. Red create a problem as more hazzards come into play. and further back some forced carries and longer Par 3's can't be reached.. @GSwag I am with you.. I would rather play for the enjoyment, rather than my ego.. AT 50 myself it is humbling that there are times we can no longer accomplish what we once could.. 

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On 12/13/2018 at 11:58 AM, chisag said:

... I think I posted this before but I think it is a good story about tee boxes. I was paired up with 3 Indian gentlemen in their late 60's that played Encino's back tees at 6933. None of them broke 125 and 2 of them were probably closer to 150. But they played fast, kept up and we still waited on every tee. I was playing the next tees up at 6564 and after 9 holes I asked them why they were playing the back tees. They told me they were trying to "maximize their dollar value" and that I paid twice as much to play as they did. LOL,

... They admitted they were bad gofers and the only way to improve is to hit as many shots as possible. They were very aware of time and often hit too quickly negating the effect of hitting more shots. But they were a real joy to play with, very pleasant company, always respected my shots and never moved or distracted me when I was getting ready to hit, although they did not afford each other that courtesy. I started off thinking these guys were a nightmare and finished thinking it was one of the most enjoyable rounds of golf I have ever experienced.  I eagled the last hole for a 69 and they had never played with anyone that shot near let alone under par and one of them gave me his lucky coin to remember the day I shared with them.

😄😄

We want to make sure we experience the full 7000 yards. It's the Indian nature in us to get the most out of everything.

I'll tell you a story of what my mom used to do when we were little. When the shampoo bottle was nearly empty, mom would put water in it. And not tell us..so when we went to use...open up the cap, put out our hand out and turn the bottle completely upside down and expecting it to take a few seconds to come out, it would come gushing out and now the bottle is empty.

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