Riding vs. Walking

[DaveP043 5,610]

58 minutes ago, cksurfdude said:

20 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

Thanks for the link, although when I went there I got a price of $1247, which I think is what I paid.  At that time, the price included three of the accessories, a list-price value of up to about $100.  At that price, I think its a reasonably good value, at $997 its an amazing value.  As for its durability, ask me in a cople of years.  I'm just happy to be back walking.

Supposedly discount was applied at checkout, or you could enter code "Santa18". Anyway, I hesitated / procrastinated ... Gonna do more research into different models before investing (plus my wife thinks I should keep pushing my own cart until I'm 70!).

My wife got on the motorized trolley bandwagon 5 years or so back.  I was the one who resisted, until I came to my senses, so she was very supportive.  There are a number of options, depending on budget and desired features.  The biggest draw for me for the QOD was how compact it was when folded, much smaller than most of the competitors.  My wife has a Cart Tek, and has been very happy with it.  Her previous one, a BatCaddy, wasn't as reliable as she had hoped it would be.

[chisag 18,671]

58 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

My wife got on the motorized trolley bandwagon 5 years or so back.  I was the one who resisted, until I came to my senses, so she was very supportive.  There are a number of options, depending on budget and desired features.  The biggest draw for me for the QOD was how compact it was when folded, much smaller than most of the competitors.  My wife has a Cart Tek, and has been very happy with it.  Her previous one, a BatCaddy, wasn't as reliable as she had hoped it would be.

 

... Yup, due diligence is a must for any motorized cart. My original was a Dynamis and the axel broke and they replaced it. Ten that axel broke and it was clearly a design flaw. Shortly after they went out f business. I found two more remote controlled carts and after promises from the owners, they both went under too. Going forward I only dealt with companies getting great reviews that had been around awhile. Powacaddy, Mottocaddy and now Navigator. I have heard good things about QOD but have not spoken with anyone yet that has used one and of course a good warranty is a must. Looking forward to hearing how your QOD holds up after a season of play. 

[Kenny B 33,485]

On average my scores are better when I walk.  Maybe it's because I'm playing with the guys when I do, as my wife suggests.  I think she is committed to walking more this next year.

BTW, there are NO courses in my area where you HAVE to ride.  

[Rickp 29,475]

I always walked until I got to FL @ age 65. Mostly took a cart then and walked Execs until I blew my knee out now only take my cart.


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[blackngold_blood 6,885]

I honestly hadn't walked a course since high school until this last august.  Got to play the Jubilee Course @ St. Andrews and had to walk 18 since that was the course rules.  I wasn't sure if I could handle walking that much as I am not it the best shape of my life (Luckily Round is still a shape)!   I was able to handle it no problem and have since decided that I am going to walk more this year.  I do like @chisag idea of alternating holes.  I think that would be a good way to start the process of walking this year.

[HardcoreLooper 5,533]

Another member of the pushcart mafia here (Clicgear 3.5).  If I play nine, I'll take everything out of the bag and carry.  The Sun Mountain 2.5 is a really great bag for carrying, and it holds a full set with no issue if you don't play midsized/oversized grips (some reviews seem to be mixed on this).

I'll ride if I'm in a hurry, or if I'm playing a full-sized course with my youngest daughter (walking up the fairway to play from 200 or so yards out gets boring for her).  

There are a few un-walkable courses around town that are routed through housing developments with obnoxiously long trips from green to tee.  I tend to stay away from them.

[kingcscott 796]

I’m a nurse. I am on my feet a lot. But I walk. I find it relaxing or exercise. Or sometimes both. I started fast the other day and blew through the round in 2:53. My course is a difficult walk and very hilly. There is no break from the hills, especially when you leave the 13th green.
I walked 48 (my age) at Sweetens Cove about a month ago. The day before I slogged 27 in rain gear.
Enjoy the Walk. The walk makes my game better

[kingcscott 796]

I've never seen an enclosed or heated cart at a public course where I am, but I guess you would have to in MN.
 
Bethpage Black still is a walking-only course, and push/pull carts in my opinion are more trouble than they're worth there due to the bunkering, slopes, and rough around the greens.  I played there Saturday, and 3 of us were carrying, and the fourth had a push cart that he wanted to abandon after the 6th hole.  It's a beast of a walk, and I won't play it if I have any back issues at all.  By the time I get to the 16th tee, I'm nearly spent, and that's when my back is feeling good.  But when I'm done, it's exhilarating (in spite of the score I've carded!), and I always look forward to doing it again.
 
Trump's new course in the Bronx is cart-path only I believe.  I've only played it once and walked it - not too bad a walk really.
 
Anyway, walkers are a minority, but I do feel walking adds to my enjoyment of the round and a feeling of accomplishment.

I pushed a cart through BPB. It was tough but goddamnit it was AWESOME!

[PMookie 17,347]

I haven’t decided if walking with my light stand bag is actually easier than pushing my cart bag on my Clicgear. Part of me thinks it’s easier just to carry and not have to push for 3 1/2 hours.... Especially when I’m smart enough to lighten the load and remove all of the extra crap before I walk.


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[chisag 18,671]

2 hours ago, PMookie said:

I haven’t decided if walking with my light stand bag is actually easier than pushing my cart bag on my Clicgear. Part of me thinks it’s easier just to carry and not have to push for 3 1/2 hours.... Especially when I’m smart enough to lighten the load and remove all of the extra crap before I walk.

 

... I will add my 2 cents and say, it isn't a question of is it easier as much of a question of which is easier on your body in the long term. There are so many loans we make with our bodies when we are young, then have to pay off with interest when we get older. The spine just isn't meant to carry clubs pulling them off and on for hours. As my Ortho surgeon said, some can do it and suffer little damage latter in life. But most will have problems and suffer the effects sooner rather than later. 

Edited December 29, 2018 by chisag

[jlukes 16,473]

50 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... I will add my 2 cents and say, it isn't a question of his is easier as much of a question of which is easier on your body in the long term. There are so many loans we make with our bodies when we are young, then have to pay off with interest when we get older. The spine just isn't meant to carry clubs pulling them of and on for hours. As my Ortho surgeon said, some can do it and suffer little damage latter in life. But most will have problems and suffer the effects sooner rather than later. 

This is the exact reason, even at 34 and in great shape, I got a push cart.  After the first time using it I noticed how good my back and shoulders felt after the round and I wondered why I waited so long to get a push cart

[PMookie 17,347]

 
... I will add my 2 cents and say, it isn't a question of is it easier as much of a question of which is easier on your body in the long term. There are so many loans we make with our bodies when we are young, then have to pay off with interest when we get older. The spine just isn't meant to carry clubs pulling them off and on for hours. As my Ortho surgeon said, some can do it and suffer little damage latter in life. But most will have problems and suffer the effects sooner rather than later. 

Funny, as I have a back disease so I have no curvature in my spine, so for me to wonder seems odd. I have a harder time riding an electric cart 18 than carrying for 9.

I do feel as though I exert more energy pushing a cart than carrying, and that’s what my ponder was about. It’d be interesting to see if there’s something to this.


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[HardcoreLooper 5,533]

2 hours ago, jlukes said:

This is the exact reason, even at 34 and in great shape, I got a push cart.  After the first time using it I noticed how good my back and shoulders felt after the round and I wondered why I waited so long to get a push cart

 

After my second significant back episode (on the floor, couldn't move) about 10 years ago, I finally stopped carrying.  Nine years of carrying double for 100 rounds a year on top of all I played couldn't have helped me much.  I carried for 18 not too long ago, and even with nothing in my bag but my clubs and six balls (left the cart at home), and I felt it much more than when I push the Clicgear.

I'm sure the Alphard eWheels are in my not-too-distant future.

[Rickp 29,475]

 
... I will add my 2 cents and say, it isn't a question of is it easier as much of a question of which is easier on your body in the long term. There are so many loans we make with our bodies when we are young, then have to pay off with interest when we get older. The spine just isn't meant to carry clubs pulling them off and on for hours. As my Ortho surgeon said, some can do it and suffer little damage latter in life. But most will have problems and suffer the effects sooner rather than later. 

Amen Brother, I’m sure a lot of my Orthopedic problems now are the results of my “misspent yout”.


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[kingcscott 796]

Extreme walking
I was looking at maps around my town and I am 4.4 miles from my home course. With greenways, back trails and the like I am wondering if I can walk there, play and walk back. It would be about 15 miles all said and done. But I think it is doable.
Of course my wife go me the Tom Coyne book “A Course Called Ireland” for Christmas and it has me thinking....

[KevinE 214]

Sorry, to all you fitness guys...I'm 61 years old,  actively work out side, am not overweight. Have stopped smoking for about 6 months now. So, for me its RIDE BABY RIDE!!!!!!

[edingc 12,461]

For the most part, I enjoy walking and take the opportunity to do so. Especially because I have a hard time paying the cart fees at many of the courses I play. In some cases the cart fees nearly double the total cost of the round.

I particularly enjoy getting up early in the summer and walking by myself as one of the only people on the course. Soothing. Once last summer I was even early enough that I couldn't actually see my tee shot on the first hole. 

My in-laws worked for a while at an executive course near us, which meant free golf and free carts. In that case, we almost always rode. It meant being able to get 18 done in 90 minutes if the course wasn't busy. (Yes, I like playing fast golf. I'm trying to work on that this year in an effort to lower my HC and really think about what I'm doing on the course.)

I quit carrying years ago, however. Was never comfortable, clubs always clanged together, which I hated. And it was heavy. Have used a push/pull cart in some form then since I was 18 or so.

I used to be VERY overweight, and about six years ago I permanently changed my diet and now routinely weightlift and exercise. Walking has the additional bonus of being better for my health!

[PING Apologist #9 4,568]

3 hours ago, edingc said:

For the most part, I enjoy walking and take the opportunity to do so. Especially because I have a hard time paying the cart fees at many of the courses I play. In some cases the cart fees nearly double the total cost of the round.

I particularly enjoy getting up early in the summer and walking by myself as one of the only people on the course. Soothing. Once last summer I was even early enough that I couldn't actually see my tee shot on the first hole. 

My in-laws worked for a while at an executive course near us, which meant free golf and free carts. In that case, we almost always rode. It meant being able to get 18 done in 90 minutes if the course wasn't busy. (Yes, I like playing fast golf. I'm trying to work on that this year in an effort to lower my HC and really think about what I'm doing on the course.)

I quit carrying years ago, however. Was never comfortable, clubs always clanged together, which I hated. And it was heavy. Have used a push/pull cart in some form then since I was 18 or so.

I used to be VERY overweight, and about six years ago I permanently changed my diet and now routinely weightlift and exercise. Walking has the additional bonus of being better for my health!

Yup, time for me to start researching a push cart that'll be best for my big DLX cart bag and saving up for it. As much as I golf-and always in a cart, the $ savings along with the health benefits got to both be positive.

[Kenny B 33,485]

52 minutes ago, PING Apologist #9 said:

Yup, time for me to start researching a push cart that'll be best for my big DLX cart bag and saving up for it. As much as I golf-and always in a cart, the $ savings along with the health benefits got to both be positive.

My gawd that's a heavy bag!!!  11.6 lbs???  I'm too old to lift that into the trunk of my car!

[PING Apologist #9 4,568]

5 minutes ago, Kenny B said:

My gawd that's a heavy bag!!!  11.6 lbs???  I'm too old to lift that into the trunk of my car!

Yup, she's a beast alright!