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Kirke and I walked a quick nine this morning. Here's one of his tee shots:
He smashed this drive on a 175 yard par 4, tossed a PW on, and walked off with his par.

Awesome pure talent for the game. I don’t know what’s better, his swing, the drive, or the clean par? Seems like he’s heading in the right direction!


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So the Little Linksters Swing Contest that I've mentioned here before extended their submission deadline. That works really well for us; typically, they ask for the videos by the end of March, when we still have snow piled on the ground. I made one back in January using swings from last season; with the extended deadline, I was able to reshoot the video using Kirke's swing from this season. I'm pleased with how this came out:

 

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1 hour ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

So the Little Linksters Swing Contest that I've mentioned here before extended their submission deadline. That works really well for us; typically, they ask for the videos by the end of March, when we still have snow piled on the ground. I made one back in January using swings from last season; with the extended deadline, I was able to reshoot the video using Kirke's swing from this season. I'm pleased with how this came out:

 

Immediately thought of this commercial.  Good luck in the contest!

 

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5 minutes ago, JohnSmalls said:

Immediately thought of this commercial.  Good luck in the contest!

 

Definitely familiar with that commercial, though it wasn't a conscious choice to replicate that. I try to avoid making those comparisons right now 🙂

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35 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

Definitely familiar with that commercial, though it wasn't a conscious choice to replicate that. I try to avoid making those comparisons right now 🙂

Completely understand.  Not trying to forward those specific comparisons , I thought it was a really cool video!

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Awesome video! And it looks like your course is in great shape, too!

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This is awesome stuff @GolfSpy MPR  Regarding walking 9 with Kirke, when/how did you start walking with him?  His idea or did you have to siggest it or prod him a bit.  My oldest (Grant) is just 6 but he only recently stopped complaining that his bag was heavy carrying it to the range, and he loves having a chance to drive the cart.  I'm hoping I can coax him into walking when he's ready.

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4 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

This is awesome stuff @GolfSpy MPR  Regarding walking 9 with Kirke, when/how did you start walking with him?  His idea or did you have to siggest it or prod him a bit.  My oldest (Grant) is just 6 but he only recently stopped complaining that his bag was heavy carrying it to the range, and he loves having a chance to drive the cart.  I'm hoping I can coax him into walking when he's ready.

Kirke and I started walking nine when he was 4. My biggest recommendation: get a push cart, or modify one to hold a kid's bag. It makes a huge difference; Kirke isn't a big kid, and I suspect he'd really struggle to carry his bag for nine holes. Right now, (he's 7) we walk if we're playing 9, cart if we're playing 18. Kirke and I both use push carts when we walk.

Kirke starting playing (carting) 9 hole rounds when he was 3. He started from the 100 yard stakes. On my end, I've never had to twist his arm into playing, but that varies by kid. My younger son Christopher doesn't have anything like the interest in golf that Kirke does, and that's awesome too. (He'd rather come and ride the cart.)

14 hours ago, edingc said:

Awesome video! And it looks like your course is in great shape, too!

What does the winner of the contest get?

Interesting observation about the course. The biggest concern up here each year is obviously the greens. Six months of snow cover is hard on greens, but our course's crew did great prep work and the greens came through the winter well.

There were areas of fairway that died, though, and they've been working to get grass sprouting there. Creative film work kept those out of the video 🙂

But you can see, if you check the video, that nearly all the rough around the fairway is dead. There was an incident a couple weeks back: the weed killer was the wrong formula, and it has essentially killed most of the grass off the fairway of our course. Not ideal, obviously, but it's been re-seeded, and perhaps long-term it'll end up being a plus.

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27 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

Kirke and I started walking nine when he was 4. My biggest recommendation: get a push cart, or modify one to hold a kid's bag. 

Thanks.  You found him a kid-specific cart, or did you make a modification?

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34 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

Interesting observation about the course. The biggest concern up here each year is obviously the greens. Six months of snow cover is hard on greens, but our course's crew did great prep work and the greens came through the winter well.

There were areas of fairway that died, though, and they've been working to get grass sprouting there. Creative film work kept those out of the video 🙂

But you can see, if you check the video, that nearly all the rough around the fairway is dead. There was an incident a couple weeks back: the weed killer was the wrong formula, and it has essentially killed most of the grass off the fairway of our course. Not ideal, obviously, but it's been re-seeded, and perhaps long-term it'll end up being a plus.

I noticed the rough but didn't think anything of it. I was more impressed with the condition of the fairways. Where I play the fairways are very spotty and uneven. Yours looks so lush comparatively!

Hopefully over-seeding the rough does help in the longer term. 

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11 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Thanks.  You found him a kid-specific cart, or did you make a modification?

My dad (who's much handier than I am) made some adjustments to a model like this to hold Kirke's clubs:

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It's always super-encouraging to get kind words from accomplished players or coaches. Today, I noticed that Lucy Li (who qualified for the women's US Open at age 11!) left a kind comment on one of Kirke's swing videos on Instagram:

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As the summer has progressed, Kirke's game is really rounding into form. He's grown into the increased course length for this year. On Saturday, I was playing really well and actually had a one-shot lead through nine holes (I was 2-over to his 3-over). I proceeded to shoot 6-over on the book (for what is still a happy 79 for me); Kirke shot 1-over on the back, for a nice 4-over 75 round.

Even when I think I'm going to beat this kid, I still lose. Wouldn't have it any other way 🙂

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3 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

It's always super-encouraging to get kind words from accomplished players or coaches. Today, I noticed that Lucy Li (who qualified for the women's US Open at age 11!) left a kind comment on one of Kirke's swing videos on Instagram:

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As the summer has progressed, Kirke's game is really rounding into form. He's grown into the increased course length for this year. On Saturday, I was playing really well and actually had a one-shot lead through nine holes (I was 2-over to his 3-over). I proceeded to shoot 6-over on the book (for what is still a happy 79 for me); Kirke shot 1-over on the back, for a nice 4-over 75 round.

Even when I think I'm going to beat this kid, I still lose. Wouldn't have it any other way 🙂

It's gotta be the shoes.  Time for some hightops @GolfSpy MPR

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Guys, looking for some feedback here.

Kirke has never played in a stroke play tournament against other kids. He was able to participate in Drive, Chip, and Putt last season (canceled this year), but other than that, all of his rounds have been with me and other adults.

Opportunities for kids golf tournaments locally are very limited, by which I mean essentially non-existent. Given our remote location, finding a tournament that has a bracket for Kirke's age is especially challenging, because there just aren't a ton of 7-year-olds in most places looking to play in tournaments.

I've been keeping a close eye on the schedule for the Minneapolis Tour of US Kids Golf. Minneapolis is about a 4.5 hour drive from here, and I was planning to get Kirke in one even there this summer. (A further complication is that because my day job is that I pastor a church, Sunday tournaments aren't going to work for us.) There's a Monday event at the end of August I've been targeting.

Registration opened yesterday, and I was excited. The fee for the tournament (9 holes) is $39; that's fine. Pricey if you think about him playing nine (half-length holes), but understandable with the expenses for putting on the tournament. But on the next registration screen, I also found out there is a fee for the season, another $40. Since this will be Kirke's only event (given the travel, etc.), we're looking at $80 for nine holes of golf.

The issue isn't whether we can afford it; this isn't going to break us (though it is the reminder of the standing barriers that exist in golf against those without means). It feels like one of those, "It's not the money; it's the principle" things.

I don't believe that a competitive event is somehow essential to Kirke's development at age 7. There are guys on Tour who weren't even swinging a club at that age, much less entering tournaments. I have no desire to get sucked in to Junior Golf Development, Inc.

At the same time, I know it's something he'd enjoy (he'd be bummed if I told him we weren't going to do it), and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in where he stands compared to other kids his age.

So what do you guys think?

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Guys, looking for some feedback here.
Kirke has never played in a stroke play tournament against other kids. He was able to participate in Drive, Chip, and Putt last season (canceled this year), but other than that, all of his rounds have been with me and other adults.
Opportunities for kids golf tournaments locally are very limited, by which I mean essentially non-existent. Given our remote location, finding a tournament that has a bracket for Kirke's age is especially challenging, because there just aren't a ton of 7-year-olds in most places looking to play in tournaments.
I've been keeping a close eye on the schedule for the Minneapolis Tour of US Kids Golf. Minneapolis is about a 4.5 hour drive from here, and I was planning to get Kirke in one even there this summer. (A further complication is that because my day job is that I pastor a church, Sunday tournaments aren't going to work for us.) There's a Monday event at the end of August I've been targeting.
Registration opened yesterday, and I was excited. The fee for the tournament (9 holes) is $39; that's fine. Pricey if you think about him playing nine (half-length holes), but understandable with the expenses for putting on the tournament. But on the next registration screen, I also found out there is a fee for the season, another $40. Since this will be Kirke's only event (given the travel, etc.), we're looking at $80 for nine holes of golf.
The issue isn't whether we can afford it; this isn't going to break us (though it is the reminder of the standing barriers that exist in golf against those without means). It feels like one of those, "It's not the money; it's the principle" things.
I don't believe that a competitive event is somehow essential to Kirke's development at age 7. There are guys on Tour who weren't even swinging a club at that age, much less entering tournaments. I have no desire to get sucked in to Junior Golf Development, Inc.
At the same time, I know it's something he'd enjoy (he'd be bummed if I told him we weren't going to do it), and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in where he stands compared to other kids his age.
So what do you guys think?

I’d be willing to drop the $80 because you’ll surely make his day and I know I’m not the only one that would love to see the vlog or post for that one!

Maybe you could try calling the group hosting the event and explain that you wouldn’t be able to take advantage of the membership and would only be out there once?


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I’d be willing to drop the $80 because you’ll surely make his day and I know I’m not the only one that would love to see the vlog or post for that one!

Maybe you could try calling the group hosting the event and explain that you wouldn’t be able to take advantage of the membership and would only be out there once?


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Should have guessed this wasn't the most unbiased audience 🙂

And I did email US Kids; they replied today that the season fee cannot be waived.

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Should have guessed this wasn't the most unbiased audience
And I did email US Kids; they replied today that the season fee cannot be waived.

Haha this is true. Too bad about the US Kids... are there any other benefits to it or is it just to be able to compete in their tournaments?


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Should have guessed this wasn't the most unbiased audience 🙂

And I did email US Kids; they replied today that the season fee cannot be waived.

That sucks .. I would prob do it for the memories you will have with kirk and I guess he will be really stoked about it.. See how it goes and if you feel the whole process wasn't worth the extra season fee then at least you know for next time. But could you imagine if he won ! 

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Guys, looking for some feedback here.

Kirke has never played in a stroke play tournament against other kids. He was able to participate in Drive, Chip, and Putt last season (canceled this year), but other than that, all of his rounds have been with me and other adults.

Opportunities for kids golf tournaments locally are very limited, by which I mean essentially non-existent. Given our remote location, finding a tournament that has a bracket for Kirke's age is especially challenging, because there just aren't a ton of 7-year-olds in most places looking to play in tournaments.

I've been keeping a close eye on the schedule for the Minneapolis Tour of US Kids Golf. Minneapolis is about a 4.5 hour drive from here, and I was planning to get Kirke in one even there this summer. (A further complication is that because my day job is that I pastor a church, Sunday tournaments aren't going to work for us.) There's a Monday event at the end of August I've been targeting.

Registration opened yesterday, and I was excited. The fee for the tournament (9 holes) is $39; that's fine. Pricey if you think about him playing nine (half-length holes), but understandable with the expenses for putting on the tournament. But on the next registration screen, I also found out there is a fee for the season, another $40. Since this will be Kirke's only event (given the travel, etc.), we're looking at $80 for nine holes of golf.

The issue isn't whether we can afford it; this isn't going to break us (though it is the reminder of the standing barriers that exist in golf against those without means). It feels like one of those, "It's not the money; it's the principle" things.

I don't believe that a competitive event is somehow essential to Kirke's development at age 7. There are guys on Tour who weren't even swinging a club at that age, much less entering tournaments. I have no desire to get sucked in to Junior Golf Development, Inc.

At the same time, I know it's something he'd enjoy (he'd be bummed if I told him we weren't going to do it), and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in where he stands compared to other kids his age.

So what do you guys think?

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At 7 IMO probably too young to start that road. It won't stop anytime soon. 

It would be a blast no doubt but I don't think at that age it is necessary. 

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A constant debate among households & sports. To participate in travel or not. 

At 7 IMO probably too young to start that road. It won't stop anytime soon. 

It would be a blast no doubt but I don't think at that age it is necessary. 

I'll say this: several years ago, I watched the documentary "The Short Game." It tracks several kids leading up to the Junior World Golf Championship at Pinehurst. A couple of the young ladies from that documentary have gone on to be very promising players; they even teamed up for the Women's US Amateur.

But my big takeaway: it would be an amazingly unusual child to deal with that level of pomp and accolades at ages 7 and 8 and do it well. For our family (no judgment at all implied for anyone who chooses differently), I decided that we were not going to plan to pursue that kind of thing in these early years. As a family, there are decisions we want to make before they have to be made, because when certain opportunities are sitting there, open, it's really hard to say no in the moment. If you're going to choose intentionally, I think it's easier to do so ahead of time.

So @THEZIPR23, I definitely appreciate the spirit of this comment. In this regard, it actually works out well that finding a tournament for Kirke is inconvenient for us. I think that the sheer impracticality of it will help it from getting out of hand, even if we were to choose to bring Kirke to this event.

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Another cool highlight for Kirke: his bucket shot that I posted earlier got retweeted by Dude Perfect yesterday!

Since I'm pretty sure we've watched every Dude Perfect video for the past five years, this was a big deal in our house.

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Another cool highlight for Kirke: his bucket shot that I posted earlier got retweeted by Dude Perfect yesterday!

Since I'm pretty sure we've watched every Dude Perfect video for the past five years, this was a big deal in our house.

get him in the scramble !

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The winners from the swing contest were (finally) announced yesterday, and Kirke didn't place. The winners for his age group being at 12:41 in this video:

I told him before we watched the announcement video that whatever the result, he's got a good swing. We enter these things for fun; it would be fun to place, but playing golf, enjoying it, and playing well are more important than a swing contest. He handled it well. And we'll go out and play again, hopefully tomorrow.

To tie up a loose end from a previous post: I did register Kirke for his first tournament on August 24. Obviously, I'll post here to let y'all know how it goes.

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Closing in on Kirke's tournament debut! He and I will drive from here to the Twin Cities Sunday after church services here (it's about a 4.5 hour drive). The tournament is Monday with tee times starting at 2:00pm (specific tee times will be announced tomorrow, I think).

Our current plan is to arrive in MSP Sunday evening and head to one of our favorite practice facilities: https://www.threeriversparks.org/location/eagle-lake-youth-golf-center. They have a tiny par 3 course (total yards: 575!). I think I beat Kirke by a stroke or two the last time we played it; I'll need to have my partial wedges totally dialed in or else he's almost certain to beat me this time. So far, Kirke hasn't beaten me if we've played from the same tees; perhaps Sunday will be the day?

They also have a giant practice green, which is important, because Kirke needs to practice lag putting. As I've noted in other threads, the greens at our course are tiny, so I want Kirke to spend some time two-putting from 40+ feet.

Monday morning, we'll plan to take it easy. I'm not looking to wear Kirke out before his round. We'll probably head to a golf store (always a treat for us, since there aren't any where we live). I'll probably grab him a sleeve of new balls. We might also check out the next length of US Kids drivers. I've found that the employers are a bit amused when I ask if Kirke can test a driver in the hitting bay against his current driver.

I'm not at all sure yet when the course opens for warm ups, but I know that when we get there, I'll need to slow Kirke down a bit. He tends to rifle his way through a bucket of range balls. I would imagine that tendency might be heightened with his excitement for the tournament.

A couple days back, the tournament director emailed me the yardages for Kirke's age group. I'm pretty excited on this: the course (as best I can tell from online maps) looks fairly flat, with no obstructions in front of the greens (water or bunkers). There are hazards, but you have to go offline to find them. The total length is same that Kirke normally plays (1,500 yards for 9 holes). But because our home course has only two par 5s and three par 3s (for the whole 18), the distribution of yardage is different on the tournament course, which is a more traditional 5-4s, 2-5s, 2-3s setup. In particular, Kirke's par 5s at home are both 300 yards; for this tournament, they are 235 and 265. With any luck, he should be putting for eagle on the shorter par 5.

Kirke is very excited; definitely talking about this all the time now. I'm trying to help him focus on things he can control: having fun. Hitting one good shot at a time. And having a good attitude. I'll keep everyone posted with pictures and videos over the next few days.

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Closing in on Kirke's tournament debut! He and I will drive from here to the Twin Cities Sunday after church services here (it's about a 4.5 hour drive). The tournament is Monday with tee times starting at 2:00pm (specific tee times will be announced tomorrow, I think).

Our current plan is to arrive in MSP Sunday evening and head to one of our favorite practice facilities: https://www.threeriversparks.org/location/eagle-lake-youth-golf-center. They have a tiny par 3 course (total yards: 575!). I think I beat Kirke by a stroke or two the last time we played it; I'll need to have my partial wedges totally dialed in or else he's almost certain to beat me this time. So far, Kirke hasn't beaten me if we've played from the same tees; perhaps Sunday will be the day?

They also have a giant practice green, which is important, because Kirke needs to practice lag putting. As I've noted in other threads, the greens at our course are tiny, so I want Kirke to spend some time two-putting from 40+ feet.

Monday morning, we'll plan to take it easy. I'm not looking to wear Kirke out before his round. We'll probably head to a golf store (always a treat for us, since there aren't any where we live). I'll probably grab him a sleeve of new balls. We might also check out the next length of US Kids drivers. I've found that the employers are a bit amused when I ask if Kirke can test a driver in the hitting bay against his current driver.

I'm not at all sure yet when the course opens for warm ups, but I know that when we get there, I'll need to slow Kirke down a bit. He tends to rifle his way through a bucket of range balls. I would imagine that tendency might be heightened with his excitement for the tournament.

A couple days back, the tournament director emailed me the yardages for Kirke's age group. I'm pretty excited on this: the course (as best I can tell from online maps) looks fairly flat, with no obstructions in front of the greens (water or bunkers). There are hazards, but you have to go offline to find them. The total length is same that Kirke normally plays (1,500 yards for 9 holes). But because our home course has only two par 5s and three par 3s (for the whole 18), the distribution of yardage is different on the tournament course, which is a more traditional 5-4s, 2-5s, 2-3s setup. In particular, Kirke's par 5s at home are both 300 yards; for this tournament, they are 235 and 265. With any luck, he should be putting for eagle on the shorter par 5.

Kirke is very excited; definitely talking about this all the time now. I'm trying to help him focus on things he can control: having fun. Hitting one good shot at a time. And having a good attitude. I'll keep everyone posted with pictures and videos over the next few days.

I started getting those good anticipation nerves just reading this!   Go get em Kirke!!! (Have a ton of fun)

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Closing in on Kirke's tournament debut! He and I will drive from here to the Twin Cities Sunday after church services here (it's about a 4.5 hour drive). The tournament is Monday with tee times starting at 2:00pm (specific tee times will be announced tomorrow, I think).

Our current plan is to arrive in MSP Sunday evening and head to one of our favorite practice facilities: https://www.threeriversparks.org/location/eagle-lake-youth-golf-center. They have a tiny par 3 course (total yards: 575!). I think I beat Kirke by a stroke or two the last time we played it; I'll need to have my partial wedges totally dialed in or else he's almost certain to beat me this time. So far, Kirke hasn't beaten me if we've played from the same tees; perhaps Sunday will be the day?

They also have a giant practice green, which is important, because Kirke needs to practice lag putting. As I've noted in other threads, the greens at our course are tiny, so I want Kirke to spend some time two-putting from 40+ feet.

Monday morning, we'll plan to take it easy. I'm not looking to wear Kirke out before his round. We'll probably head to a golf store (always a treat for us, since there aren't any where we live). I'll probably grab him a sleeve of new balls. We might also check out the next length of US Kids drivers. I've found that the employers are a bit amused when I ask if Kirke can test a driver in the hitting bay against his current driver.

I'm not at all sure yet when the course opens for warm ups, but I know that when we get there, I'll need to slow Kirke down a bit. He tends to rifle his way through a bucket of range balls. I would imagine that tendency might be heightened with his excitement for the tournament.

A couple days back, the tournament director emailed me the yardages for Kirke's age group. I'm pretty excited on this: the course (as best I can tell from online maps) looks fairly flat, with no obstructions in front of the greens (water or bunkers). There are hazards, but you have to go offline to find them. The total length is same that Kirke normally plays (1,500 yards for 9 holes). But because our home course has only two par 5s and three par 3s (for the whole 18), the distribution of yardage is different on the tournament course, which is a more traditional 5-4s, 2-5s, 2-3s setup. In particular, Kirke's par 5s at home are both 300 yards; for this tournament, they are 235 and 265. With any luck, he should be putting for eagle on the shorter par 5.

Kirke is very excited; definitely talking about this all the time now. I'm trying to help him focus on things he can control: having fun. Hitting one good shot at a time. And having a good attitude. I'll keep everyone posted with pictures and videos over the next few days.

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Closing in on Kirke's tournament debut! He and I will drive from here to the Twin Cities Sunday after church services here (it's about a 4.5 hour drive). The tournament is Monday with tee times starting at 2:00pm (specific tee times will be announced tomorrow, I think).

Our current plan is to arrive in MSP Sunday evening and head to one of our favorite practice facilities: https://www.threeriversparks.org/location/eagle-lake-youth-golf-center. They have a tiny par 3 course (total yards: 575!). I think I beat Kirke by a stroke or two the last time we played it; I'll need to have my partial wedges totally dialed in or else he's almost certain to beat me this time. So far, Kirke hasn't beaten me if we've played from the same tees; perhaps Sunday will be the day?

They also have a giant practice green, which is important, because Kirke needs to practice lag putting. As I've noted in other threads, the greens at our course are tiny, so I want Kirke to spend some time two-putting from 40+ feet.

Monday morning, we'll plan to take it easy. I'm not looking to wear Kirke out before his round. We'll probably head to a golf store (always a treat for us, since there aren't any where we live). I'll probably grab him a sleeve of new balls. We might also check out the next length of US Kids drivers. I've found that the employers are a bit amused when I ask if Kirke can test a driver in the hitting bay against his current driver.

I'm not at all sure yet when the course opens for warm ups, but I know that when we get there, I'll need to slow Kirke down a bit. He tends to rifle his way through a bucket of range balls. I would imagine that tendency might be heightened with his excitement for the tournament.

A couple days back, the tournament director emailed me the yardages for Kirke's age group. I'm pretty excited on this: the course (as best I can tell from online maps) looks fairly flat, with no obstructions in front of the greens (water or bunkers). There are hazards, but you have to go offline to find them. The total length is same that Kirke normally plays (1,500 yards for 9 holes). But because our home course has only two par 5s and three par 3s (for the whole 18), the distribution of yardage is different on the tournament course, which is a more traditional 5-4s, 2-5s, 2-3s setup. In particular, Kirke's par 5s at home are both 300 yards; for this tournament, they are 235 and 265. With any luck, he should be putting for eagle on the shorter par 5.

Kirke is very excited; definitely talking about this all the time now. I'm trying to help him focus on things he can control: having fun. Hitting one good shot at a time. And having a good attitude. I'll keep everyone posted with pictures and videos over the next few days.

It sounds like you've got a wonderful father/son putting planned and I hope y'all have fun. The tournament experience will be good for Kirke, but I think the memories made with his dad will be priceless. Have a safe trip, have fun, and I can't wait to hear about the trip. 

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