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Since I can’t play golf I have time to sit around and think about golf. Looking back at 2018 I started with the Cobra F8 One Length irons. I loved the 9, G, SW and LW. I felt like on full swings it was like throwing darts. Unfortunately I struggled a bit with the other clubs in comparison to the Cleveland Launcher HB irons I was fortunate to test.

 

With the Launchers I am a better scorer but not as accurate with scoring clubs. I use the Launcher 9 and PW with CBX 48, 52 and 56. As I reflected more I realized the most accurate scoring clubs I ever played were the Wilson CI9 irons. I checked the specs and they were all 36” long. My others range from 35.5 to 35 inches.

 

So the point of this is if I add length to the Launchers and CBX wedges and make them all 36” do I need to adjust lie, weight, anything else or is it a small enough to just go with it?

 

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IT would depend on the actual lie angle of the Wilson clubs or the single length clubs you were hitting.

If they are the same now then extend it and enjoy. If not then extend and adjust to want you know works.

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12 hours ago, Wedgie said:

So the point of this is if I add length to the Launchers and CBX wedges and make them all 36” do I need to adjust lie, weight, anything else or is it a small enough to just go with it?

 

You don't have to do anything if you lengthen the club.  

Here is the effect of adding length.   Each 1/2 inch will increase swingweight by 3; for example D2 will become D5.  While you don't physically change the lie angle, you effectively make the club more upright if you were to grip the club in the same manner.    

For some people these changes wont be noticeable but for others they will feel a big difference.   My suggestion would be to add an extension to the club and see how it works; you can always undo the change.  

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3 hours ago, cnosil said:

You don't have to do anything if you lengthen the club.  

Here is the effect of adding length.   Each 1/2 inch will increase swingweight by 3; for example D2 will become D5.  While you don't physically change the lie angle, you effectively make the club more upright if you were to grip the club in the same manner.    

For some people these changes wont be noticeable but for others they will feel a big difference.   My suggestion would be to add an extension to the club and see how it works; you can always undo the change.  

What would be the preferred technique here? Wooden dowel fitted into the end under the grip? Just curious.

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What would be the preferred technique here? Wooden dowel fitted into the end under the grip? Just curious.

They make shaft extensions that you epoxy into the end of the shaft. Check on a site like golfworks; they have graphite and steel options.
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Thanks guys, I’m going to add extensions this week. I think the extra swing weight may be a benefit as well but only one way to find out.


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As stated, shaft extensions are pretty easy to get hold of and fit. 

Obviously, adding length to your wedges will have a knock-on effect with other things - notably added swing weight but also your distance gapping may change significantly. If you add length, you will automatically add clubhead speed too (although the added swing weight may offset this slightly) so be prepared to tweak the lofts or alter your swing length to dial in your yardages.

Lie angle will also be critical if you add length - the higher the loft the more critical it becomes for potentially hitting off line. Check the lies after any alterations always, particularly with added length because the added swing weight can have an effect on toe droop at impact and ultimately flex - which in turn refers you back to yardages etc.

Be prepared to get your logical thinking cap on and work out the best solution in each case - from my experience, it's a lot better to alter to serve a purpose rather scratch an itch, so maybe experiment on one wedge first before committing to the rest. And lastly, never alter your swing to suit your equipment - instead, alter your equipment to suit your swing.

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I personally believe that by playing a consistent length (and lie) in all of your wedges you will develop more consistency in your overall swing. By having the same length and lie - directional control will also show improvements through consistency at address as well as impact. No more compensating for the clubs that were simply too short. 

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I went ahead and had all 3 wedges lengthened to 36” and same lie angle on each. Played 2 rounds with them in cold, sloppy wet conditions but it seems to be the correct decision for me. Clean crisp contact on all full swings and on line. Strange thing is the True Spec guys think I may benefit from shortening all other clubs a quarter of an inch.


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:cobra-small: - F9 One Length 3-G

:cleveland-small: - CBX 52 and 56

:EVNROLL: - ER 1.2

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I’ve found, in my own testing, that playing a single ball position benefits from wedges being the same length as my 9 iron.  If you move the ball position based on the club you are hitting, traditional lengths usually work better.

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