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... Who is going to the PGA Show this year? This is the first PGA Show in 15 years that I will miss because of family obligations, other than one other year due to injury. I think this year might be shaping up to be the best year for drivers I can ever remember. Cobra F9, Mizuno ST190, Taylor Made M series and Callaway Epic Flash all look to be awesome offerings with premium shafts as well as many free upgrade shaft offerings and I will miss hitting them all at Demo Day. Which driver are you guys most looking forward to testing out when they are released? 

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For me it's going to be interesting to see if the TS drivers from Titleist, which clearly were a big improvement for Titleist drivers, can compete with this next wave of new drivers. 

I think the Srixon 785 and Titleist TS series will still perform as good as all of the new releases, but they might be overshadowed simply due to release timing 

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And I'd like to add that I think Cobra's launch strategy around the F9 was abysmal. 

They announced the drivers at the end of October, but they still aren't available for another week. Hell, they were just made available for pre-order over the last few few days. 

I love Cobra and think the new driver is going to be great, but man did they botch this launch 

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I'm kind of hot warm and cold on a new driver this year. So far I've hit/tested a little bit.... the Ping G400, Wilson Cortex, and Titleist TS2. The Ping was indoor only and the other two were both outdoors with crummy range balls. My last 3 rounds have all been great driving rounds with my now ancient 2014 TM SLDR. It's been an accurate, consistent, and reliable winner for almost 5 years now. Of the three I've tested briefly above; the TS2 is a driver I'd put in my bag today if I were seriously considering. The day I tried it I was striping it no differently than my SLDR. And this was an OTR demo!! I told the pro at the club I'd be inclined to take it as is.

Hmmm... maybe I need to take it out on the course and see how it really performs. 

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21 minutes ago, jlukes said:

And I'd like to add that I think Cobra's launch strategy around the F9 was abysmal. 

They announced the drivers at the end of October, but they still aren't available for another week. Hell, they were just made available for pre-order over the last few few days. 

I love Cobra and think the new driver is going to be great, but man did they botch this launch 

 

... I have said many times I am glad I am not in Marketing or Sales when it comes to the equipment market. On one hand the Cobra release was brilliant as it got a ton of coverage from just about everyone which in turn created quite a bit of buzz. Since Cobra is not viewed by many casual golfers as an equal to Taylor Made and Callaway, it made sense to get all that exclusive coverage before the release of the M Series and Flash because the F9 could have been lost in the hype of the big 2. On the other hand, a lot of that buzz has been lost on any non Cobra fans with the hype and release of the TM/Cally offerings and they are the very audience that Cobra needs to take the next step. So I see advantages and disadvantages with either approach. Hopefully actually all hitting them and finding what works best keeps Cobra in the game. 

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6 minutes ago, PlaidJacket said:

I'm kind of hot warm and cold on a new driver this year.

 

... To be fair Plaid, you are warm and cold on every new driver every new year! 🤗

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5 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... To be fair Plaid, you are warm and cold on every new driver every new year! 🤗

Haaa... you know me well. I just can't put a good thing down. 

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Really happy with my G400 Max so I am not all hyped up about the drivers this year. The one I am most interested in would be the PXG since they now seem to be more price aligned than in the past. I am probably guilty of following the marketing so I always want it try the clubs that we hear about most; so I want to see if the TM and Callaway clubs perform “better”.

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And I'd like to add that I think Cobra's launch strategy around the F9 was abysmal. 
They announced the drivers at the end of October, but they still aren't available for another week. Hell, they were just made available for pre-order over the last few few days. 
I love Cobra and think the new driver is going to be great, but man did they botch this launch 

Maybe they're marketing strategy was centered around that old Carly Simon song Anticipation? FYI I was at GG on December 26th and they did have F9 demos just not ones for purchase.


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I went to the SHOW for a couple years about 10 years ago......my club had closed so we moved to another. A friend and I submitted requests for tickets, labeling us as Buyer and Asst Buyer for the defunct Quail Hollow GC. Not the one in the Carolinas but in Florida. I was totally amazed at the friendliness f everyone and the access to equipment. I grew up in Ky playing PowerBilt so I connected with the rep at the show, and ordered the Woods & Irons at Cost. Played them for two years and lowered my Hcap from 18 to 13.....anyway, I have not returned since, but would jump at the opportunity to go again.

 

So if anyone has an unused taps, please let me know.

 

BTW, I put the PowerBilts back in play this week, just for kicks and was shooting in the low 80’s. The driver was blasting 10-15 yards past the Cobra F8......just saying.

 

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Really happy with my G400 Max so I am not all hyped up about the drivers this year. The one I am most interested in would be the PXG since they now seem to be more price aligned than in the past. I am probably guilty of following the marketing so I always want it try the clubs that we hear about most; so I want to see if the TM and Callaway clubs perform “better”.

I was at the range yesterday with my G400 Max and I couldn’t miss with it. I’m still not sure of “true” distance since I haven’t played it in warmer temps, and dry conditions, but I’m not so sure it can be beat for direction. I haven’t had this much confidence in a driver in a LONG time. But, I’m still going to put it on the monitor in March vs others. At worst, I’ll make sure the shaft is just right for me.


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I’m struggling to imagine how one of these new offerings could top my Ping G400.

I would try the Mizuno as that brand’s Drivers General fit my swing. I’d enjoy looking at shafts. If my driver SS continues to improve I may be in the market for a new shaft.


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12 minutes ago, revkev said:

I’m struggling to imagine how one of these new offerings could top my Ping G400.

I would try the Mizuno as that brand’s Drivers General fit my swing. I’d enjoy looking at shafts. If my driver SS continues to improve I may be in the market for a new shaft.

 

... If you have been fit in the last few years, I don't really see any of these drivers significantly outperforming the top drivers. Flash isn't gonna be significantly better then an Epic, M4/5 isn't gonna be significantly better than the M3/4. G400 ad F8 is right there with them of course. Sure, you may find 1.3 more yards and 126 rpm's less spin resulting in a very modest boost, which for some is enough.  I imagine the F9 may provide a boost in performance over the F8, the TS Series will be significantly better than previous Titleist drivers and I think the 180ST is gonna be significantly better than previous Mizuno drivers. If I get a few more yards and a little less spin, as well as slightly better performance on mishits with my F9, I will consider that a success. 


... I play new drivers every year and rarely have I found one that made a significant leap in performance. SLDR and Epic come to mind, and then the next year everyone catches up. Most of the time it is a new look, sound or feel that gives me a mental boost, as in it's just more fun sometimes to play something new. And if you hit everything every year, sometimes you will find lightening in a bottle. No rhyme or reason for a big increase in performance but sometimes it just inexplicably happens. And of course, there are always forum members that have not "upgraded" in several years and for them, 2019 should be a real Bonanza. These are the players I write reviews for, nit someone that bought a G400, F8 or Rogue last year.

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My swing speed says I should hit it 250. I hit it 230. Only thing that will help me is increasing my angle of attack. Is there a club that will do that for me?


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1 hour ago, Wedgie said:

My swing speed says I should hit it 250. I hit it 230. Only thing that will help me is increasing my angle of attack. Is there a club that will do that for me?
 

 

... Pretty sure The Hammer corrects any angle of attack ... POW!!! 🤪

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I don't think any of these new drivers will outperform the TS2 for me, but I still want to hit them!

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My swing speed says I should hit it 250. I hit it 230. Only thing that will help me is increasing my angle of attack. Is there a club that will do that for me?


Angle if attack is swing related and not club related. More loft
Could help launch the ball higher. You do have to start being aware of static and dynamic loft because it might just increase the spin which might not be what you want.
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10 hours ago, Wedgie said:

My swing speed says I should hit it 250. I hit it 230. Only thing that will help me is increasing my angle of attack. Is there a club that will do that for me?


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Short answer: No

Long answer: A proper fitting COULD change your delivery slightly.  A shaft change or a swing weight change could change the way the club feels in your hands and thus impacts your delivery, but there is no way of predicting if that would be the case.

Changing your swing is really the only sure option

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the 2 I'm most keenly interested in are the Mizuno and PXG gen2 - both could have a really big year in drivers and are some that don't necessarily come to mind at first.

It's too bad that TM isn't going.  I'd really like to see more on the "BMW" (m5/m6) of drivers.  😊

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My big question for 2019 is the G410.  The G400, to me, doesn't feel like it has been out that long.  Can Ping deliver the magic in back to back releases?

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