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2 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

I'm still awaiting Arccos's revision to my course's layout; I'm giving them another couple of days (it'll then be a month since I contacted them) until I send a check-in email to see if they're going to do anything with it.

Their current settings for my course are kinda killing me right now. I plugged my course rating and slope, along with my scores, into an online handicap calculator, and it gave me a 13ish handicap, which seems fair. I'm currently 86 over par for 99 holes, or about 15 over for every 18 holes.

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And while I've acknowledged that my course is short (the back tees are only 6,100), Arccos still is not differentiating any sets of tees and thinks the blue tees are only 5,100 yards. I'm not sure what rating and slope it's using, but it's giving me an 18.2 handicap now, which would be about 6 shot increase over the end of last year.

Have you gotten in touch with Arccos about it? They're really good about fixing any issues you might have with your course. Usually need a photo of your scorecard to send once they get back with you, but they've been really helpful to me. 

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The good news: Arccos replied yesterday and got my course information straightened. So far, everything looks pretty good. The OK news: I had a deeply mediocre nine holes this morning (10 over), a

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22 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:

Have you gotten in touch with Arccos about it? They're really good about fixing any issues you might have with your course. Usually need a photo of your scorecard to send once they get back with you, but they've been really helpful to me. 

Yep, like I was saying, I sent them all the course info about a month ago. They confirmed they received it in an email, but they've not made any adjustments yet.

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The good news: Arccos replied yesterday and got my course information straightened. So far, everything looks pretty good.
The OK news: I had a deeply mediocre nine holes this morning (10 over), and my Arccos handicap dropped to 17.8, so it looks like the updated course data should help my pursuit of a single digit handicap.
The bad news: I had my worst ball-striking round that I can remember. I lost any feel for the low point of my swing and hit virtually every single full swing shot fat today. And not just a little fat: 4-6 inches behind the ball.
The good news: I was money once I got close to the green. Check out my Arccos handicaps for today's nine:
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I think I had 14 putts today, including some really nice midrangers that fell. So if I could make a full swing and advance the ball with even a moderate amount of success, without my short game deciding to abandon me then, I'd be in good shape.

This was your first round post-Planemate use, right?
Your ball-striking struggle is interesting to say the least if that’s the case. I wonder if you’re kind of between “feels” if that makes sense?
Keep at it and don’t be discouraged by one stretch of 9 holes.


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This was your first round post-Planemate use, right?
Your ball-striking struggle is interesting to say the least if that’s the case. I wonder if you’re kind of between “feels” if that makes sense?
Keep at it and don’t be discouraged by one stretch of 9 holes.


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This was exactly my thought. I'm slowly working through the PlaneMate protocols, which build up from partial swings. So far, I've not used any band other than the short pitch shot one. So I'm not shocked to have my full swing be confused by the mix of ideas.

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Keep up the great stuff though! This is extremely helpful, especially for someone like me. I have gone back and forth on getting the Planemate but had decided to get the price cut PXG. Decided against that so maybe I will see how you get on and try the Planemate out.

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An interesting development with the PlaneMate, and one I'm hoping isn't going to be a serious problem. Saturday, I did a bunch of PlaneMate practice. It was the first time I had done full swings with the PlaneMate, and I was amazed by the difference in my swing:

That night, I was awakened by a deep soreness in my chest (left pectoral). Didn't think a ton of it, went back to sleep.

Last night, I took a few quick swings with the PlaneMate in the garage. When I went inside, my chest was in severe pain. I'm thinking a strained a pec. Looking at the slo mo of my swing before and after the PlaneMate, there seems to be some possible explanation. Before, as I'm following through on my shot, my lead elbow would begin to hinge (and thus start absorbing some of the speed of the swing) earlier. Essentially, I'd reach the full extension of my arms at follow through, then they'd begin to fold, as I'd turn through into a finish.

With the PlaneMate, I hold my arms at full extension longer; they really don't begin to fold until my torso stops rotating. So that left pec (already at full extension) is absorbing a lot more of the swing's remaining speed.

Some of that is visible in these screen caps. In the swing on the left (without the PM), my left elbow remains in front of me; on the right, my elbow is extended behind my shoulder.

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The pain subsided last night and hasn't returned today, but I'm likely going to baby it for the next couple of days.

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45 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

An interesting development with the PlaneMate, and one I'm hoping isn't going to be a serious problem. Saturday, I did a bunch of PlaneMate practice. It was the first time I had done full swings with the PlaneMate, and I was amazed by the difference in my swing:

That night, I was awakened by a deep soreness in my chest (left pectoral). Didn't think a ton of it, went back to sleep.

Last night, I took a few quick swings with the PlaneMate in the garage. When I went inside, my chest was in severe pain. I'm thinking a strained a pec. Looking at the slo mo of my swing before and after the PlaneMate, there seems to be some possible explanation. Before, as I'm following through on my shot, my lead elbow would begin to hinge (and thus start absorbing some of the speed of the swing) earlier. Essentially, I'd reach the full extension of my arms at follow through, then they'd begin to fold, as I'd turn through into a finish.

With the PlaneMate, I hold my arms at full extension longer; they really don't begin to fold until my torso stops rotating. So that left pec (already at full extension) is absorbing a lot more of the swing's remaining speed.

Some of that is visible in these screen caps. In the swing on the left (without the PM), my left elbow remains in front of me; on the right, my elbow is extended behind my shoulder.

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The pain subsided last night and hasn't returned today, but I'm likely going to baby it for the next couple of days.

Swing is looking great man 

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49 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

An interesting development with the PlaneMate, and one I'm hoping isn't going to be a serious problem. Saturday, I did a bunch of PlaneMate practice. It was the first time I had done full swings with the PlaneMate, and I was amazed by the difference in my swing:

That night, I was awakened by a deep soreness in my chest (left pectoral). Didn't think a ton of it, went back to sleep.

Last night, I took a few quick swings with the PlaneMate in the garage. When I went inside, my chest was in severe pain. I'm thinking a strained a pec. Looking at the slo mo of my swing before and after the PlaneMate, there seems to be some possible explanation. Before, as I'm following through on my shot, my lead elbow would begin to hinge (and thus start absorbing some of the speed of the swing) earlier. Essentially, I'd reach the full extension of my arms at follow through, then they'd begin to fold, as I'd turn through into a finish.

With the PlaneMate, I hold my arms at full extension longer; they really don't begin to fold until my torso stops rotating. So that left pec (already at full extension) is absorbing a lot more of the swing's remaining speed.

Some of that is visible in these screen caps. In the swing on the left (without the PM), my left elbow remains in front of me; on the right, my elbow is extended behind my shoulder.

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The pain subsided last night and hasn't returned today, but I'm likely going to baby it for the next couple of days.

Hopefully just a little tender for being used differently.  I know when I start doing different workouts I get pretty sore for the next day or two as my body remembers what it's like work out.  🥴

It's kind of amazing how different that looks.  Will be real interesting to see some on course swings after this.  I had been working for a while to get into a different position at the top of my backswing and I feel like I just actually started to do it on the course this year.  Once I get on the course I don't really think about my swing, so I get why its takes time.  Seems like this might be a great tool though from your early results.

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Sorry to hear about the pec pain, but, man, does that swing look GOOD! As was once said by a great man on SNL, “It’s not how you feel, it’s how you look!”

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I had that same pec pain once as well and I feel it came from playing everyday and practicing also. I would come in so steep that I was pounding that left pec and I didn’t recover for months. Hope you get it straightened out. 

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Might be how abruptly the swing is stopped by the band. Deceleration of your momentum makes a lot of sense in my mind. I often have a lot of pec tightness after I do a lot of swings. Normally just grab a tennis ball and find the knots. Hurts like the Dickens but normally feel better afterwards.

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I’m so jealous of your short game! I’m having the opposite problem, I play skytrak virtual golf way too much and can shoot single digit on a 6500 yard virtual course with auto putting enabled pretty consistently, but I have absolutely no feel for pitching, chipping, or putting on a real golf course:

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I shot an 88 with 5 “2 chips” and 6 “3 putts” on Sunday. I had a 4ft birdie putt lip out downhill that ended up a 3 putt bogie. It seems like when something is firing the other part is breaking down!



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36 minutes ago, Grit Golf said:

 


I’m so jealous of your short game! I’m having the opposite problem, I play skytrak virtual golf way too much and can shoot single digit on a 6500 yard virtual course with auto putting enabled pretty consistently, but I have absolutely no feel for pitching, chipping, or putting on a real golf course:

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I shot an 88 with 5 “2 chips” and 6 “3 putts” on Sunday. I had a 4ft birdie putt lip out downhill that ended up a 3 putt bogie. It seems like when something is firing the other part is breaking down!



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Whoa that's quick change!   Swing is looking good!  I would venture to say as you progress towards the full swing with the trainer the consistency you had with the short game will find it's way into the full swing.  Looking forward to the results!

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Haven't updated here in ages, so there's much to say, but this will just be short. After a 5-over 40 in a league match tonight, my handicap dropped under 12 for the first time in any app:

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Right now, I'm hitting the ball as well as I have in a long time. A couple mistakes off the tee cost me some strokes tonight.

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I'm way, way behind in updates here, but as of this morning's nine hole round, Arccos gives me the following handicap:

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I've got a poll up on Twitter, but I'll ask here as well: what do you count as a single digit handicap? Anything under 10? Under 9.4 (so it rounds down to 9)? Or nothing higher than 9.0?

In any case, my game has been as solid as it's ever been. Today's round was a 5-over 40, and that was with an OB ball (by two feet!) on the 5th hole. Still struggling with off the tee, but I'm putting light's out (better than scratch, in Arccos's judgment). Very interested to see how swapping out irons (for the Sub 70 699 Pro test) changes my approach numbers.

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I'm way, way behind in updates here, but as of this morning's nine hole round, Arccos gives me the following handicap:

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I've got a poll up on Twitter, but I'll ask here as well: what do you count as a single digit handicap? Anything under 10? Under 9.4 (so it rounds down to 9)? Or nothing higher than 9.0?

In any case, my game has been as solid as it's ever been. Today's round was a 5-over 40, and that was with an OB ball (by two feet!) on the 5th hole. Still struggling with off the tee, but I'm putting light's out (better than scratch, in Arccos's judgment). Very interested to see how swapping out irons (for the Sub 70 699 Pro test) changes my approach numbers.

Congrats dude!  That's a single digit in my book. 

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I'm way, way behind in updates here, but as of this morning's nine hole round, Arccos gives me the following handicap:
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I've got a poll up on Twitter, but I'll ask here as well: what do you count as a single digit handicap? Anything under 10? Under 9.4 (so it rounds down to 9)? Or nothing higher than 9.0?
In any case, my game has been as solid as it's ever been. Today's round was a 5-over 40, and that was with an OB ball (by two feet!) on the 5th hole. Still struggling with off the tee, but I'm putting light's out (better than scratch, in Arccos's judgment). Very interested to see how swapping out irons (for the Sub 70 699 Pro test) changes my approach numbers.
100% single digit! Congrats! Looking forward to your update especially for the putting because mine was brutal today!

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On 6/3/2020 at 3:09 PM, GolfSpy MPR said:

The good news: Arccos replied yesterday and got my course information straightened. So far, everything looks pretty good.

The OK news: I had a deeply mediocre nine holes this morning (10 over), and my Arccos handicap dropped to 17.8, so it looks like the updated course data should help my pursuit of a single digit handicap.

The bad news: I had my worst ball-striking round that I can remember. I lost any feel for the low point of my swing and hit virtually every single full swing shot fat today. And not just a little fat: 4-6 inches behind the ball.

The good news: I was money once I got close to the green. Check out my Arccos handicaps for today's nine:

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I think I had 14 putts today, including some really nice midrangers that fell. So if I could make a full swing and advance the ball with even a moderate amount of success, without my short game deciding to abandon me then, I'd be in good shape. 🙂

Keep the grind, those single digits will be here sooner than later. 

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