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I'm surprised that there's not much talk here about Ping's new adjustable length(34"-36") Sigma putter. I saw it on the back cover of Golf magazine. It seems a bit gimmicky for Ping. I would think those spending money for a Ping putter would get fit for the right length or already know what length they need. 

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I think it is comparable to adjustable loft or trajectory on a driver. Most people won't use it, but it is helpful for tinkerers. I really doubt it will take off, but it is a nice marketing point.

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33 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:

I'm surprised that there's not much talk here about Ping's new adjustable length(34"-36") Sigma putter. I saw it on the back cover of Golf magazine. It seems a bit gimmicky for Ping. I would think those spending money for a Ping putter would get fit for the right length or already know what length they need. 

I'm saving my talk for after I see them in person, demo them and get to talk to some of the PING people about them next week.  I'll definitely have some info on them to share. 

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I'm a little luke-warm on it. Just like @tony@CIC stated, it seems a little gimmicky and not like PING at all. I haven't seen one of these in person yet, but it looks like a similar feature I've seen on demo putters that retailers have so they can do length fitting-but on a putter you would use..? I wonder how much extra weight it adds..? I think this kind of goes against PING's core philosophy of getting fitted at a retailer. Now you can just grab one and self-adjust apparently...hmmmm

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Surprised people haven’t seen one; they have been in stores for months.

The system works well and feels just as stable as a normal shaft. I haven’t pulled a grip but replacing the grip should be possible. The shaft has markings to allow you to set the length to 1/4” increments. The new approach is an advancement over their previous adjustable shaft. You use a key like in a driver shaft and turn it to change the length.

The advantage for retailers is that you don’t have to stock or cut/extend something you have in stock. They can fit you and adjust the length right there.

Adjustable clubs are a tool for the fitters and to help minimize store inventory. Tinkerers just get an added benefit.

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This isn't the first adjustable putter from Ping. They're Karsten TR putter also had an adjustable shaft that allowed it to go from 31"-38".

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With Ping taking so much pride in being an engineering company, I think it fits their brand ethos quite well.  Engineers need a new project to work on sometimes.  Why not an adjustable putter?

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I know this might be over simplifying things a bit but can you not just move your hands up and down the grip to change the length???? The added mechanism seems a little gimmicky to me. We golfers are much to smart for that!

 

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I could see it being beneficial because instead of having to cut the shaft to length, they can just make 1 length putter and then the user can adjust it to whatever length they want.

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3 hours ago, SteddyGolf said:

I know this might be over simply things a bit but can you not just move your hands up and down the grip to change the length???? The added mechanism seems a little gimmicky to me. We golfers are much to smart for that!

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This just seems like smart business. It cuts down on parts and as a buyer I get my putter now if I fit into a black dot.


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Apparently, the answer is a big fat NO. 
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So how did that work out for Wie?


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I spent a ton of time demo’ing these putters at two stores in Atlanta back when I was up there in November. The look and feel on these putters is great, and as has highlighted, the adjustable shaft is more for clubfitters and to reduce the inventory so stores only have to carry one of each model and then you can adjust the length to each golfer and that’s all you need.

Beyond all the emphasis on something you’ll probably have adjusted even before you buy it, the look and feel of these putters is really nice. I rolled them pretty well and they are a lot cheaper than some of your higher end putters with similar quality.

Would I put one of these in my bag if I was considering buying a new putter? Yes. Out of the dozens of different putters I tested, the PING was in my top 3 of choices, behind the Cleveland and the Scotty Cameron.


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I've tested several of the Sigma 2 line at the local PING fitter's pro shop. I really liked the feel of several different putters but I'm kind of leaning toward getting a Kushin Sigma G from the previous version.

The PING pro was telling me how much time it was going to save him with the adjustable length putters. He made it sound like regripping one for someone after a fitting would be a thing of the past and replacing the grip when they wear out would be pretty easy to do. I will say it was super easy to adjust them by turning a provided tool a few times. It made testing each of the different heads at my desired length super easy to do. 

I can see a huge benefit to a pro shop only having to carry one of each and being able to adjust the length to suit each individual golfer. 

I do wonder if purchasing one would mean when you "have" to replace the putting grip at some point due to wear you'd only be able to replace it with a PING grip. (The tool screws into the end of the grip) 

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I've had two of the previous gen adjustable putters from ping, as a tinkerer I love the ability and also learned that 32

inches is about perfect length for me.  The test of course finding putters that length, most of the time even at large stores pgass and the like 33 are hard to find at well under 6 feet tall I appreciate the adjustability.  my .02

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I think these putters are brilliant in design and hopefully it will mean more people get a putter that is the proper length for them rather than everyone having 35" putters. Unless you already know what length you need or get fitted, anyone who buys one of these putters ought to take some time to try different lengths. I'll bet those who do will find themselves discovering a more comfortable length and holing more putts.

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I have yet to see one of these in the store. I guess I need to drive around and check the local shops. I would love to have one of those shafts to put into my current putter (not a ping) so that I can play around with length. 

I feel like grip replacement would be difficult but who knows? 

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I know this might be over simplifying things a bit but can you not just move your hands up and down the grip to change the length???? The added mechanism seems a little gimmicky to me. We golfers are much to smart for that!
 
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Not at my height... There are never 36”-37” putters for me to try in stores, so at least this comes close at 36”.


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I need to try one next time I see them as I think I’d like this insert on this better than the last one, plus, I need to try something a little shorter than 37” just to see how it feels.


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2 hours ago, PMookie said:

I need to try one next time I see them as I think I’d like this insert on this better than the last one, plus, I need to try something a little shorter than 37” just to see how it feels.


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I messed with a Tyne a bit today. I have to say that even though it was for a "straight" stroke, it felt pretty damn good. I'll probably fiddle with it some more tomorrow...what a sweet piece. Looking at it, I was rather surprised how "standard" and "non-bulky" the adjustable grip looked and felt like. I have changed my mind on these..PING has done a huge service with this tech and I think it can only get better from here...

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I feel like most on this thread, that it should just be used for fitting purposes...unless you plan to tinker with your putter stance that may call for a longer or shorter putter.

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On 1/17/2019 at 9:53 AM, PING Apologist #9 said:

I'm a little luke-warm on it. Just like @tony@CIC stated, it seems a little gimmicky and not like PING at all. I haven't seen one of these in person yet, but it looks like a similar feature I've seen on demo putters that retailers have so they can do length fitting-but on a putter you would use..? I wonder how much extra weight it adds..? I think this kind of goes against PING's core philosophy of getting fitted at a retailer. Now you can just grab one and self-adjust apparently...hmmmm

Messed around with one of these the other day at GG, and I must say what PING has done is actually quite ground-breaking. There is no outward appearance given that there is some sort of mechanism in there and it felt "normal" I'm gonna have to really test one of these out...kind of like Randy here...Check this out...

 

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Apparently, they're perfect for short guys:

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I dropped-by Edwin Watts today to get some rolls with this putter. I tried the Anser Black Nickel and I really liked it. The face feels great, and I really liked the look. I sank my first three putts with it from 10’. Really nice putter.


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Purchased a 2021 Fetch, and with all my putters at 36", I set this to 34.5". I was apprehensive in purchasing this putter with this shaft, as you can order a solid steel shaft, but it is fantastic. I've made more skin money with this putter than any other in my collection.

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Hi folks here don't forget it is a great idea for some junior golfers (serious ones) who are growing fast,  I don't remember how many times I adjusted it to fit my son's growing body during the past two years, only till recently he seems to settle at 34.5 in.  I would highly recommend this putter, after all, it is a Ping!

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