Motorbikes and Scooters on Golf courses

[tony@CIC]

Hmm, wonder if these will tear up the fairways (literally): https://www.golf.com/gear/2019/01/23/our-favorite-things-the-best-from-the-pga-merchandise-show/

On the other hand I really liked the remote controlled electric cart from Club Car called Tempo Walk: https://www.golfchannel.com/video/2019-pga-merchandise-show-demo-day-club-car-tempo-walk

[EthanSterlingPrice]

I think it’ll be fine in the long run. It shouldn’t cause any more damage than carts or pull carts.


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[PlaidJacket]

Kinda like the club car model. Never was much of a surfer dude. LOL

[Peterpc2828]

They are defiantly cool, I highly doubt I’ll ever see these anywhere.


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[toehold57]

I’d like to try either of bike-like contraptions but I ride big fat motorsickles now. It wouldn’t be a stretch to get on one.


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[PMookie]

It would be nice to have one of these bikes, but there isn’t a course anywhere around here that allows outside carts to be used.


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[SteddyGolf]

I’ve seen them used on a couple courses. Recently on a very wet course. They are lighter than a golf cart and much more course friendly. Plus you never have two guys going to one balls as you often do in golf cart golf. Everyone heads in their own direction.


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[perseveringgolfer]

If you are refering to the finncycle these are just accidents waiting to happen in my view.

Guys will race them, go off road and crash. Someone is bound to go over a green or skid to a halt creating a huge furrow.

Wind will no doubt blow them over when stationary, or the stand sinks into a really soft part etc etc

 

I like the small 4 wheel ones you stand on, they look more practical..and safer.

 

As for the remote control one that follows you, just watch it make a straight line to you as you walked around a bunker to see it dive in head first! Going downhill might end up with you being run over as well!

[sixcat]

How much more lazy must we become?  I don't want to get on a soap-box but the older I get, the more respect and admiration I have for the game as it is played in the UK.  Golf in the US doesn't need more fluff and filler.  It needs more golf!

[Peterpc2828]

If you are refering to the finncycle these are just accidents waiting to happen in my view.
Guys will race them, go off road and crash. Someone is bound to go over a green or skid to a halt creating a huge furrow.
Wind will no doubt blow them over when stationary, or the stand sinks into a really soft part etc etc
 
I like the small 4 wheel ones you stand on, they look more practical..and safer.
 
As for the remote control one that follows you, just watch it make a straight line to you as you walked around a bunker to see it dive in head first! Going downhill might end up with you being run over as well!

Not to mention add in some drinking and it’s a whole different game


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[RickyBobby_PR]

1 hour ago, perseveringgolfer said:

If you are refering to the finncycle these are just accidents waiting to happen in my view.

Guys will race them, go off road and crash. Someone is bound to go over a green or skid to a halt creating a huge furrow.

Wind will no doubt blow them over when stationary, or the stand sinks into a really soft part etc etc

 

I like the small 4 wheel ones you stand on, they look more practical..and safer.

 

As for the remote control one that follows you, just watch it make a straight line to you as you walked around a bunker to see it dive in head first! Going downhill might end up with you being run over as well!

The US has about 25 million golfers and the UK iirc is under 2 million. Using carts and even more so having individual carts such a these or the golf boards help with pace of play and thus make the rounds more enjoyable and not too long. Also allows courses to get mire golfers on the course.

We also have courses who landscaping and design aren’t always walker friendly.

[TR1PTIK]

1 hour ago, perseveringgolfer said:

If you are refering to the finncycle these are just accidents waiting to happen in my view.

Guys will race them, go off road and crash. Someone is bound to go over a green or skid to a halt creating a huge furrow.

Wind will no doubt blow them over when stationary, or the stand sinks into a really soft part etc etc

Aside from the comment about wind (which is highly unlikely given the low CG these would likely have), how would this differ from traditional golf carts? There are numerous videos on YouTube of people misusing carts and I've seen plenty more examples in person. Don't think the Finncycle will do anything to change that (positively or negatively).

[Peterpc2828]

Aside from the comment about wind (which is highly unlikely given the low CG these would likely have), how would this differ from traditional golf carts? There are numerous videos on YouTube of people misusing carts and I've seen plenty more examples in person. Don't think the Finncycle will do anything to change that (positively or negatively).

 

Theoretically this should speed the pace of play up, most people who use riding carts really have no idea on how to use a cart to keep with pace of play, my group is a 4 some of walkers, so why can we keep up with a 4 some in 2 carts most times and a lot of times waiting? To much back and forth, riders usually just sit in the passenger seat waiting to be driven to their ball ( don’t get defensive if your a cart rider, this not always the cases I get that)

 

 

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[hckymeyer]

My buddy is going to get one of the cycles.  He would have got the fat tire one last year but we don't have any local dealers and shipping from AZ was $500.  Now he's waiting to find out more info about the Finn Cycle first, but he's already got permission from SWMBO so it'll happen soon enough.

[TR1PTIK]

11 minutes ago, Peterpc2828 said:

 

Theoretically this should speed the pace of play up, most people who use riding carts really have no idea on how to use a cart to keep with pace of play, my group is a 4 some of walkers, so why can we keep up with a 4 some in 2 carts most times and a lot of times waiting? To much back and forth, riders usually just sit in the passenger seat waiting to be driven to their ball ( don’t get defensive if your a cart rider, this not always the cases I get that)

 

 

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I guess I mostly meant that it wouldn't change anything in terms of people being dumb with them. I certainly see how it could help with pace of play. Also, I'd definitely buy one if ever I had the option. I pretty much love all things with two wheels.

[perseveringgolfer]

1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

The US has about 25 million golfers and the UK iirc is under 2 million. Using carts and even more so having individual carts such a these or the golf boards help with pace of play and thus make the rounds more enjoyable and not too long. Also allows courses to get mire golfers on the course.

We also have courses who landscaping and design aren’t always walker friendly.

I have no issue with mechanical transport on the course. I think you have misinterpreted my post as being against these aids, far from it, some of them look great fun and a way to scoot round a course super quick, and safely.

I was only referring to the finncycle and remote control trolley and my opinion on some of the potential issues.

If you have ever played a links in the UK the wind will absolutely blow these 2 wheeled bikes over.

[Peterpc2828]

I guess I mostly meant that it wouldn't change anything in terms of people being dumb with them. I certainly see how it could help with pace of play. Also, I'd definitely buy one if ever I had the option. I pretty much love all things with two wheels.

Your 100% on that one for sure


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[GolfSpy MPR]

6 minutes ago, TR1PTIK said:

I guess I mostly meant that it wouldn't change anything in terms of people being dumb with them. I certainly see how it could help with pace of play. Also, I'd definitely buy one if ever I had the option. I pretty much love all things with two wheels.

There are reasons for thinking that the golf motorcycle might have a higher proportion of dumb incidents. The first is just self-selective: in general, the people who opt for the golf motorcycle over the golf cart aren't going to be timid, risk-averse folks. It's probably going to skew somewhat younger and confident. That isn't the fault of the motorcycle, to be sure, but it's definitely a reason to think that there would be a higher ratio of incidents if you give people the option of the bikes.

The second is just the nature of the bike itself. You can try to do fun things with a golf cart (and YouTube has no shortage of videos of people being idiots with them). But they are designed to be boring. The bike looks fun; unfortunately, fun is intoxicating for some folks, and one thing leads to another....

I'm not at all against the idea of the bikes, in themselves. They would absolutely be an asset for pace of play. But I strongly suspect that more people would be dumb with the bikes.

[GB13]

1 minute ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

There are reasons for thinking that the golf motorcycle might have a higher proportion of dumb incidents. The first is just self-selective: in general, the people who opt for the golf motorcycle over the golf cart aren't going to be timid, risk-averse folks. It's probably going to skew somewhat younger and confident. That isn't the fault of the motorcycle, to be sure, but it's definitely a reason to think that there would be a higher ratio of incidents if you give people the option of the bikes.

The second is just the nature of the bike itself. You can try to do fun things with a golf cart (and YouTube has no shortage of videos of people being idiots with them). But they are designed to be boring. The bike looks fun; unfortunately, fun is intoxicating for some folks, and one thing leads to another....

I'm not at all against the idea of the bikes, in themselves. They would absolutely be an asset for pace of play. But I strongly suspect that more people would be dumb with the bikes.

The problem isn't that fun is intoxicating, it's the 10 beers they drink before driving the golf bike that are intoxicating. I think smaller personal 4 wheeled carts are the safest and best for pace of play. 

[Reesedw]

As someone who rode and raced Dirtbikes, At 50 I would still end up in trouble on one, Oh gee I can jump that or Climb that.. then you throw an idiot on one, after a few beers... Game over... I guarantee it. but they do look like fun for about 10 min.. then I would be looking for things that i should not be trying... 

[pulledabill]

My course tested one out but they had no desire to.pursue them. I guess the weight limit put a real damper on their interest.

Maybe we wil see Rickie Fowlet riding pne on the course with his shirt un-tucked. 

[tony@CIC]

Maybe we wil see Rickie Fowlet riding pne on the course with his shirt un-tucked. 

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[GolfSpy Barbajo]

We got to ride them at Lake Nona on Monday - they don’t go any faster than a golf cart, and I honestly can’t see them being a danger to the ground - not any more than a golf cart would be. They don’t have much speed or starting torque - you really can’t “peel out,” so to speak. A Harley, it ain’t

But they are fun. They won’t turn a normal person into an idiot. And they won’t keep an idiot from being one.

I remain firmly convinced, however, that the answer to pace of play issues is not vehicular in nature.


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[toehold57]

Idiots will be idiots, there’s no getting away from them.

I was thinking about two wheeled transports on the course and started thinking about courses that are hilly or have lots of mounds or moguls. The weight of the bag along with simple kickstand will not hold that combo up.

And riders trying to navigate those hills and side slopes will not be a pretty picture either.

Best we stick with four wheels.

I would still like to try it though. After all, I’m smarter than the average bear


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[downlowkey]

What it lacks in stature, at a fraction of the cost, this means of conveyance works just fine for me.

The background...

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/20077-your-golf-rig/

[GB13]

35 minutes ago, downlowkey said:

What it lacks in stature, at a fraction of the cost, this means of conveyance works just fine for me.

The background...

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/20077-your-golf-rig/

$2000 bag of clubs, $50 mini bike. What could go wrong? 

All in all though, your reasoning behind it is sound.

[Headhammer]

I think the FINNCycle is cool, but in the real world it may have limited applications.Our membership is mostly 50+,  with a lot of septuagenerians, and this would not be a widespread option. Also, I have to imagine insurance to have these at a course would be a lot more costly than for an EZ Go cart. 

[downlowkey]

31 minutes ago, GB13 said:

$2000 bag of clubs, $50 mini bike. What could go wrong? 

All in all though, your reasoning behind it is sound.

Hahahaha! Yeah - it’s probably only a matter of time before I properly crash this thing (even though I _never_ hotdog it). And if my insurance providers ever catch wind of this setup it’s going to be a nightmarish actuarial table overlay.