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So I used their online fitting tool

How are they recommending a lie adjustment without even asking shot shape or anything?

Height, wrist to floor, carry distance of driver and 7 iron

Then it tells me 3* up.....WOW that’s a lot!

Last fitting on a lie board I was told 1* up?


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24 minutes ago, TBT said:

So I used their online fitting tool

How are they recommending a lie adjustment without even asking shot shape or anything?

Height, wrist to floor, carry distance of driver and 7 iron

Then it tells me 3* up.....WOW that’s a lot!

Last fitting on a lie board I was told 1* up?


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I'm 5"10' 34 inch to floor and i'm standard/standard. With stiff shafts. Whats your height and wrist to floor measurment.

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I'm 5"10' 34 inch to floor and i'm standard/standard. With stiff shafts. Whats your height and wrist to floor measurment.


6”1’ 37 inches wrist to floor


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5 hours ago, redmania said:

I'm in Australia and I've had an unfortunate incident with my cobra forged tec. Two clubs have cracked at the hosel and I'm currently in a robust discussion with cobra about rectification. The whole thing has annoyed me no end and I've basically started to think about just replacing them. 

 

I'm interested in the 699s I'm a reasonable ball striker (hc22) and iron play is my strongest trait, but need a little forgiveness. What big brand would these be more akin to? 0211? I210? I can't really demo so I'd likely pull the trigger and hope for the best! Any help would be very much appreciated!!

The 699s are in the player distance category, so comparable to the king forged Tec, ping i500, TM p790. They were tested in the 2019 most wanted players distance test. They did well. 

The heads are all forged, so you can order them with whatever lie you want and always have them adjusted to dial them in. 

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4 hours ago, Thin2win said:

The 699s are in the player distance category, so comparable to the king forged Tec, ping i500, TM p790. They were tested in the 2019 most wanted players distance test. They did well. 

The heads are all forged, so you can order them with whatever lie you want and always have them adjusted to dial them in. 

Thanks, appreciate the response

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On 7/21/2020 at 10:39 AM, Thin2win said:

Got my 639-CB irons and the forged black wedge yesterday. Beautiful clubs with a nice solid feel. Got a quick take session, then some gap testing done out on the course, and they are exactly what I was looking for. 

I'll do an "unofficial" review with more pictures, but here are a couple quick hits. 

Tested the new Wedge at 135y, all shots came out pin high:

 

I'm very looking forward to this relationship. 

The pictures look great.  Would like to know how you rate the forgiveness of these clubs.  

Driver - Ping G410 Plus 10.5 - Ping Tour 65 Stiff

4 Wood - Callaway Rogue - Project X Evenflow blue 6.0

Hybrids - Titleist 818 H2 -  3(c-1) and 4(c-4) - Tensei CK Blue 70 stiff

Irons - Callaway Apex  CF 16 5-AW - True Temper XP 95 Steel Stiff

Wedges - Ping Glide 54 SS, 58 TS

Putter - Edel e1 Torque balanced

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On 7/6/2020 at 2:55 PM, Megah1tz said:

Demo's arrived a few minutes ago! I'll hit the range with them in a few hours but the real test will be Saturday when I play a tournament at Innisbrook Copperhead... this time of the year the greens will be "firm-ish" so holding greens will be at a premium... traditionally, my 6 iron has be required to put in work at this course so I won't need to manage my way around it to get some quality looks at the performance. Initial impressions are as follows:

Looks - Sub70 for the WIN! That "traditional look" is very welcomed and I have to say sorely missed!

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Top Line - ummmmm very noticeable and once again Sub70 for the win!

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Soles - slightly slimmer sole on the Sub70 and this COULD be a welcomed change for turf action. I'm not a digger and there have been times where I think the RSi's sole tried to "help" where it wasn't needed and possibly has contributed to my getting steeper (or more downward attack angle) to reproduce that "ball striking" feeling I had with my Ping i10's that I miss so very much... for the moment let's call it a draw based on aesthetics alone because honestly I couldn't really care what it looks like sitting on the ground (can't see it) but more concerned with how it interacts with the turf! More to come later...  

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were you notified when the Demos shipped I put in a order for mine last Friday night and the money was charged Monday but order is still showing as processing. 

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I called Sub 70 on Monday to ask about the demo program. I told him I wanted to buy a set of the 699 irons, and after talking to the CS rep, we decided that a set of 5-AW with Recoil 760 would be best for me. All good so far...

He then checks to see what they had in left hand demos. Apparently nothing. He offered to build me a 6 and 9 iron with the stock KBS steel shaft. He said that worked best because they would then have stock shaft lefty demos to send out again to other customers when I returned them.

I agreed to that, because I really wanted to buy a set. I paid for the demos,  hung up thought about what I had just done, and said... WTF was I thinking?

I'm trying to buy a set of clubs from you, willing to pay almost $200 in shaft and grip upgrades, and you're building and sending me two demo clubs with steel shafts that are 40 grams heavier than the graphite ones I was just fit into because that works best for YOU? I called back and cancelled my order.

I get the whole small company, limited lefty stock thing, but why offer a demo program if you're not going to let the customer demo a shaft in the same ballpark as the one he was fit into? I've read a lot about the Sub 70 CS here, and I'll assume they'll be more accommodating to a righty, but why bother offering a demo program for lefties if you aren't willing to stock at least two or three shaft profiles?

So much for my Direct To Consumer experience. Color me not impressed.

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Hybrids  :callaway-small: Rogue X 18* Synergy R

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I emailed with hybrid questions....and intent to purchase one of the pre-owned offerings......no response.  Surprised also....

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Grand Stranded said:

I called Sub 70 on Monday to ask about the demo program. I told him I wanted to buy a set of the 699 irons, and after talking to the CS rep, we decided that a set of 5-AW with Recoil 760 would be best for me. All good so far...

He then checks to see what they had in left hand demos. Apparently nothing. He offered to build me a 6 and 9 iron with the stock KBS steel shaft. He said that worked best because they would then have stock shaft lefty demos to send out again to other customers when I returned them.

I agreed to that, because I really wanted to buy a set. I paid for the demos,  hung up thought about what I had just done, and said... WTF was I thinking?

I'm trying to buy a set of clubs from you, willing to pay almost $200 in shaft and grip upgrades, and you're building and sending me two demo clubs with steel shafts that are 40 grams heavier than the graphite ones I was just fit into because that works best for YOU? I called back and cancelled my order.

I get the whole small company, limited lefty stock thing, but why offer a demo program if you're not going to let the customer demo a shaft in the same ballpark as the one he was fit into? I've read a lot about the Sub 70 CS here, and I'll assume they'll be more accommodating to a righty, but why bother offering a demo program for lefties if you aren't willing to stock at least two or three shaft profiles?

So much for my Direct To Consumer experience. Color me not impressed.

 

10 hours ago, EEZurg said:

I emailed with hybrid questions....and intent to purchase one of the pre-owned offerings......no response.  Surprised also....

 

 

 

 

If you're on Twitter, look out for Jasons, the owner, posts or get a hold of him there. He does post his cell number and I'm sure will take care of both of you.

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Irons: :wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged 4-GW Project X Catalyst 80 6.0
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31 minutes ago, MattF said:

 

If you're on Twitter, look out for Jasons, the owner, posts or get a hold of him there. He does post his cell number and I'm sure will take care of both of you.

 

11 hours ago, EEZurg said:

I emailed with hybrid questions....and intent to purchase one of the pre-owned offerings......no response.  Surprised also....

 

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Grand Stranded said:

I called Sub 70 on Monday to ask about the demo program. I told him I wanted to buy a set of the 699 irons, and after talking to the CS rep, we decided that a set of 5-AW with Recoil 760 would be best for me. All good so far...

He then checks to see what they had in left hand demos. Apparently nothing. He offered to build me a 6 and 9 iron with the stock KBS steel shaft. He said that worked best because they would then have stock shaft lefty demos to send out again to other customers when I returned them.

I agreed to that, because I really wanted to buy a set. I paid for the demos,  hung up thought about what I had just done, and said... WTF was I thinking?

I'm trying to buy a set of clubs from you, willing to pay almost $200 in shaft and grip upgrades, and you're building and sending me two demo clubs with steel shafts that are 40 grams heavier than the graphite ones I was just fit into because that works best for YOU? I called back and cancelled my order.

I get the whole small company, limited lefty stock thing, but why offer a demo program if you're not going to let the customer demo a shaft in the same ballpark as the one he was fit into? I've read a lot about the Sub 70 CS here, and I'll assume they'll be more accommodating to a righty, but why bother offering a demo program for lefties if you aren't willing to stock at least two or three shaft profiles?

So much for my Direct To Consumer experience. Color me not impressed.

 

31 minutes ago, MattF said:

 

If you're on Twitter, look out for Jasons, the owner, posts or get a hold of him there. He does post his cell number and I'm sure will take care of both of you.

Yes I totally agree. I called Jason -CEO, (His cell phone is on the website) and he always called back within the next 24 hours. They truly care about the individual golfer. 

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56 deg: :cleveland-small: Reg 588 tour action

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11 hours ago, Grand Stranded said:

I called Sub 70 on Monday to ask about the demo program. I told him I wanted to buy a set of the 699 irons, and after talking to the CS rep, we decided that a set of 5-AW with Recoil 760 would be best for me. All good so far...

He then checks to see what they had in left hand demos. Apparently nothing. He offered to build me a 6 and 9 iron with the stock KBS steel shaft. He said that worked best because they would then have stock shaft lefty demos to send out again to other customers when I returned them.

I agreed to that, because I really wanted to buy a set. I paid for the demos,  hung up thought about what I had just done, and said... WTF was I thinking?

I'm trying to buy a set of clubs from you, willing to pay almost $200 in shaft and grip upgrades, and you're building and sending me two demo clubs with steel shafts that are 40 grams heavier than the graphite ones I was just fit into because that works best for YOU? I called back and cancelled my order.

I get the whole small company, limited lefty stock thing, but why offer a demo program if you're not going to let the customer demo a shaft in the same ballpark as the one he was fit into? I've read a lot about the Sub 70 CS here, and I'll assume they'll be more accommodating to a righty, but why bother offering a demo program for lefties if you aren't willing to stock at least two or three shaft profiles?

So much for my Direct To Consumer experience. Color me not impressed.

I guess this would explain why my LH 699 Demo clubs are still processing. I'm actually ok with having to wait as a Lefty I'm to common to feel left out. But communication is key in any business just send me a email stating there is a delay. 

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On 7/9/2020 at 10:32 PM, Megah1tz said:

I put my order in for the 699 Pro's today as well... I spoke with Jason on Tuesday and he basically removed any doubts I had. I would have ordered them yesterday but got hung up at work and couldn't slip away long enough to call my order in!

Will your sub70s be in the bag this Saturday? That will make our group  pairing fun if each of us has new irons in play 🤪

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Irons:  :titelist-small: T300 4-5, T200 6-PW Nippon 880 Pro R

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16 hours ago, Grand Stranded said:

I called Sub 70 on Monday to ask about the demo program. I told him I wanted to buy a set of the 699 irons, and after talking to the CS rep, we decided that a set of 5-AW with Recoil 760 would be best for me. All good so far...

He then checks to see what they had in left hand demos. Apparently nothing. He offered to build me a 6 and 9 iron with the stock KBS steel shaft. He said that worked best because they would then have stock shaft lefty demos to send out again to other customers when I returned them.

I agreed to that, because I really wanted to buy a set. I paid for the demos,  hung up thought about what I had just done, and said... WTF was I thinking?

I'm trying to buy a set of clubs from you, willing to pay almost $200 in shaft and grip upgrades, and you're building and sending me two demo clubs with steel shafts that are 40 grams heavier than the graphite ones I was just fit into because that works best for YOU? I called back and cancelled my order.

I get the whole small company, limited lefty stock thing, but why offer a demo program if you're not going to let the customer demo a shaft in the same ballpark as the one he was fit into? I've read a lot about the Sub 70 CS here, and I'll assume they'll be more accommodating to a righty, but why bother offering a demo program for lefties if you aren't willing to stock at least two or three shaft profiles?

So much for my Direct To Consumer experience. Color me not impressed.

Sorry you had that experience. So did the rep indicate if they had the shafts (Recoil 760'S) with you flex in stock or were out? I am just wondering why he would think you would be ok to demo a shaft that did not fit to your specs.......

IMO, the sales rep could at least apologized and told you that you'd have to wait until other left hand demo's were available. The offer to build was nice but partial at best imo. Hopefully, the company will learn from a lost sale and position itself to support a little better. Thanks for sharing experience. 

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Quick update....This morning I got a very detailed response to my email.  I also called Jason's cell phone as suggested (although I really didn't want to bother the CEO with my questions)  VERY soon after Cody called and said they were swamped and catching up.  Cody could not have been more helpful or friendly and got me set up with the hybrid I was interested in.  Seems like a great bunch and can't wait to try out the hybrid.....

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4 hours ago, GregB135 said:

Will your sub70s be in the bag this Saturday? That will make our group  pairing fun if each of us has new irons in play 🤪

YEP! I got range time in Wednesday night and got 18 in yesterday (I was supposed to play with you & Brian on Wednesday But I had to wait on furniture delivery)! Brian said you hit the new sticks really well... I took lots of notes from yesterday’s round and will use those and notes from Saturday to do an “unofficial review” but for the moment I can say OMFG!

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1 hour ago, aerospace_ray said:

Sorry you had that experience. So did the rep indicate if they had the shafts (Recoil 760'S) with you flex in stock or were out? I am just wondering why he would think you would be ok to demo a shaft that did not fit to your specs.......

IMO, the sales rep could at least apologized and told you that you'd have to wait until other left hand demo's were available. The offer to build was nice but partial at best imo. Hopefully, the company will learn from a lost sale and position itself to support a little better. Thanks for sharing experience. 

They had the shafts. He offered to build me two if I was willing to buy them I believe. I didn't quite understand what he meant by that, so maybe I have that part wrong. That's why I didn't mention that in my prior post.

Don't get me wrong, they were very nice to talk to, and canceled my order quickly. I just can't understand what sense it makes to have a lefty demo program but not have any demo clubs available.

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Hybrids  :callaway-small: Rogue X 18* Synergy R

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Irons       PXG 0211 5-GW (23*-48*) MMT 70

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Just now, Grand Stranded said:

They had the shafts. He offered to build me two if I was willing to buy them I believe. I didn't quite understand what he meant by that, so maybe I have that part wrong. That's why I didn't mention that in my prior post.

Don't get me wrong, they were very nice to talk to, and canceled my order quickly. I just can't understand what sense it makes to have a lefty demo program but not have any demo clubs available.

Thanks for clarification. Yes they are very nice and obviously have loyal customer base. They produce clubs that look good and according to reviews have nice quality.

My limited experience with DTC demo program was about a year or so ago. I got two Ben Hogan clubs with UST shafts. I had choice between KBS, TT and UST. Maybe I was lucky but I told them what I was interested in and got the club head/shaft combo most close to my fitting requirements. And I purchased because of that. I can not imagine had I got a club with a shaft that I could not fit/play into. IMO that is not the correct way to demonstrate that a company's club can meet a golfers needs. 

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I just wanted to update everyone as well. I received an email that my LH demos have shipped and will be here Tuesday. I never emailed or called so it wasn’t anything I did.It’s been a week since I placed the order, but it needed up being sooner than I anticipated after reading the comment here.


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My Sub70 demos arrived today super excited to try them out open them up to find I was sent Right handed instead of Left Handed. Double checked my order to make sure I didn’t mess, and yup they sent the wrong ones. Very disappointed to say the least!!

 

 

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