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5 hours ago, etakmit said:

wait ... " a call " ... im not familiar with this terminology 🤣

If you have the time, reach out to Jason. He's the owner... he will happily walk through shaft selections... he knows his stuff. 

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Mavrik 9 degree - Ventus Black 7X

Mavrik 13.5 Degree - Hazardus Smoke

Sub70 19 degree - Proforce V2 8F5

Sub70 4u - Proforce V2 8F5

Sub70 5i - DG S400

Adams CMB 6-GW - Project X 6.0

Sub70 54 (286) and 58 (JB Low Bounce) - S300

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4 hours ago, myherobobhope said:

If you have the time, reach out to Jason. He's the owner... he will happily walk through shaft selections... he knows his stuff. 

I second that. 

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D- Tour Edge EXS 220

3w- Adams Tight Lies 2 16

Hybrid- Cobra F8 19 degree 

Utility- Sub 70 699 U  21 degree

Irons- Sub 70 739 5-PW

Wedges- Tour Edge CB Pro 50,54,58

Putter- Tour Edge Hp Nickkel Chrome Series 1

Ball- Titleist Tour Soft

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22 hours ago, myherobobhope said:

If you have the time, reach out to Jason. He's the owner... he will happily walk through shaft selections... he knows his stuff. 

That's my intention at some point!

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I have read this entire thread but didn't see anybody that went into detail (may have missed it) about the 639CB vs 699pro. I am currently demoing the 639CB and I love the looks, feel and feedback it gives but I am probably a shade or two short on the talent required to play them (if interested see thread here ). I have read the website copy and I know that the feel will likely differ significantly going from a forged player's cavity back to an injected, hollow body milled iron but I am trying to move beyond "feel" since that is subjective. BUT, I would like to be able to feel where I missed on the clubface on mishits. That is an issue I have on my Cobra F9s and was wondering if people who have hit both 639CB and 699pro can comment on the differences in feedback on the two as well as maybe spin and ballspeed. Thanks in advance!

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3 hours ago, vandyland said:

I have read this entire thread but didn't see anybody that went into detail (may have missed it) about the 639CB vs 699pro. I am currently demoing the 639CB and I love the looks, feel and feedback it gives but I am probably a shade or two short on the talent required to play them (if interested see thread here ). I have read the website copy and I know that the feel will likely differ significantly going from a forged player's cavity back to an injected, hollow body milled iron but I am trying to move beyond "feel" since that is subjective. BUT, I would like to be able to feel where I missed on the clubface on mishits. That is an issue I have on my Cobra F9s and was wondering if people who have hit both 639CB and 699pro can comment on the differences in feedback on the two as well as maybe spin and ballspeed. Thanks in advance!

I have the 4 utility and the 5 639… there is definitely less feedback from the 699, but you can still feel the impact. They are solid clubs… im a 7 handicap and a decent ball striker and I’d happily play them but I don’t want the distance gains. 

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Mavrik 9 degree - Ventus Black 7X

Mavrik 13.5 Degree - Hazardus Smoke

Sub70 19 degree - Proforce V2 8F5

Sub70 4u - Proforce V2 8F5

Sub70 5i - DG S400

Adams CMB 6-GW - Project X 6.0

Sub70 54 (286) and 58 (JB Low Bounce) - S300

SeeMore Trimetal Mallet (Custom fit and built... Kudos to Cody)

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19 hours ago, vandyland said:

I have read this entire thread but didn't see anybody that went into detail (may have missed it) about the 639CB vs 699pro. I am currently demoing the 639CB and I love the looks, feel and feedback it gives but I am probably a shade or two short on the talent required to play them (if interested see thread here ). I have read the website copy and I know that the feel will likely differ significantly going from a forged player's cavity back to an injected, hollow body milled iron but I am trying to move beyond "feel" since that is subjective. BUT, I would like to be able to feel where I missed on the clubface on mishits. That is an issue I have on my Cobra F9s and was wondering if people who have hit both 639CB and 699pro can comment on the differences in feedback on the two as well as maybe spin and ballspeed. Thanks in advance!

I'm hoping someone with experience of both will see your post and chime in.  I haven't played either, so I'm no help there.  I will say all the hollow bodied irons I've hit, including 2 models I've owned, gave less feedback than muscle backs or small, one piece cavity backs.  I am currently playing the original PXG 0211 irons and can tell by feel and sound when I mishit it, but I can only tell where on the face I hit it if it was a HUGE mishit.  Another factor is the shaft.  Graphite and shafts with dampening inserts will give less feedback.  I have an ancient set of Wilson blades that I put prosoft inserts into.  I used to be able to pinpoint the mishits with those.  With the softening inserts I only get a general idea.

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Ping G400 Max

Cobra King F9 Speedback 3 wood

Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood

Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees

Taylormade M4 5 hybrid

Callaway Mavrik Max 6-GW

PXG 0211 5-GW

PXG 0211 sand wedge bent to 53 degrees

Maltby M Series+ 54 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree

Ping Sigma 2 Anser

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So question to everyone (maybe someone has hit both), and @GolfSub70. I game the 939X hybrid. Is it worth it to upgrade to the 949X? Is the face really much hotter? Does the sole really help the turf interaction(looks really nice in the pictures)? 

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3H: :Sub70: 939X UST proforce V2 black F3 hybrid soft stepped XStiff 

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4 hours ago, rbsiedsc said:

So question to everyone (maybe someone has hit both), and @GolfSub70. I game the 939X hybrid. Is it worth it to upgrade to the 949X? Is the face really much hotter? Does the sole really help the turf interaction(looks really nice in the pictures)? 

It's a bigger number, so of course it is better /s  

 

(honestly no idea, but I'm looking at it for a 4H.  I'm torn between a 4H, 4U or a 4i.  I need something that gets a bit higher in the air, so I'm leaning hybrid, but I don't know.)

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Driver:  RBZ Stage 2 (9.5)

3 Wood: Sub70 Pro (13)

3U: Sub70 (19.5)

Irons: Sub70 699 Pro (5-Gap)

Wedges: Vokey SM8 54 and 58 (10S) 

Putter: Some old green Nike Blade

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(honestly no idea, but I'm looking at it for a 4H.  I'm torn between a 4H, 4U or a 4i.  I need something that gets a bit higher in the air, so I'm leaning hybrid, but I don't know.)

You should check out the TXG youtube video on long iron vs hybrid vs fairway wood for flight, spin, etc. It was eye opening to me and the results should have been fairly obvious (iron flights lowest, hybrid mid, fwy wood highest) but the spin was interesting because the irons not only fly low they also have less spin and less steep decent angle so harder to hold greens. I also find that, off a tee, a 4 hybrid is straighter than a 4 iron most of the time. 

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At my skill level, I don't realistically have any hope of holding a green from 220+ all I'm looking for is nGIR (obviously, it makes sense to have the best tool to hold the green).  

I tend to hit pretty high in general, but it looks like my 5i has a descent angle around 35-38*  That isn't giving me a great chance to hold a certain distance as it tends to run quite a bit after landing.  So I think perhaps a 4H is the best option for me (and probably to replace my 3U with a 3H as well).  The upper end of the bag is a challenge for me to find the right clubs. 

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Driver:  RBZ Stage 2 (9.5)

3 Wood: Sub70 Pro (13)

3U: Sub70 (19.5)

Irons: Sub70 699 Pro (5-Gap)

Wedges: Vokey SM8 54 and 58 (10S) 

Putter: Some old green Nike Blade

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Feels soooo god to be able to swing clubs again. 

I currently have 2 sets of demos. 699 and the 699 pros. 
I really like the 699’s. Smooth same distance as my current XHot Callaways, but have a better feel and the ball flight is the same. To me easier to work a draw but it takes me a bit to hit a fade with them which I am fine with. 
 

I haven’t hit the Pros yet but will either tonight or tomorrow. 
 

i think my biggest problem is going to be figuring out the top end of the bag. I won’t have anything from a 4 iron to my driver. The reason I’m in the market for clubs is my bag took a dive and I had 4 of the clubs break. Driver, 1 iron , 4 & 7 irons. a phone call will be made to get suggestions soon. 
 

great thread here fellas. 

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Titleist U15 1 iron 

Sub 70 699 Pro 4-AW 

Sub 70 3 utility 19*

Callaway 56 and 58 wedge. 

Karsten Ping Zing putter

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2 hours ago, JFish350 said:

Feels soooo god to be able to swing clubs again. 

I currently have 2 sets of demos. 699 and the 699 pros. 
I really like the 699’s. Smooth same distance as my current XHot Callaways, but have a better feel and the ball flight is the same. To me easier to work a draw but it takes me a bit to hit a fade with them which I am fine with. 
 

I haven’t hit the Pros yet but will either tonight or tomorrow. 
 

i think my biggest problem is going to be figuring out the top end of the bag. I won’t have anything from a 4 iron to my driver. The reason I’m in the market for clubs is my bag took a dive and I had 4 of the clubs break. Driver, 1 iron , 4 & 7 irons. a phone call will be made to get suggestions soon. 
 

great thread here fellas. 

 Check out my review on the hybrid that I just posted. I was in the same boat it is filling that gap perfectly!

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My 58 JB was an all star today in route to my lowest round in 20 years… love my sub70 stuff!

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Mavrik 9 degree - Ventus Black 7X

Mavrik 13.5 Degree - Hazardus Smoke

Sub70 19 degree - Proforce V2 8F5

Sub70 4u - Proforce V2 8F5

Sub70 5i - DG S400

Adams CMB 6-GW - Project X 6.0

Sub70 54 (286) and 58 (JB Low Bounce) - S300

SeeMore Trimetal Mallet (Custom fit and built... Kudos to Cody)

And as always, Kudos to Craigers.

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5 hours ago, myherobobhope said:

My 58 JB was an all star today in route to my lowest round in 20 years… love my sub70 stuff!

I have a JB 56 and a 286 52, I equally love them both. I tried I few other wedges this year and went right back to sub 70

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FW Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 17.5° - Fujikura Pro

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

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8 hours ago, Thin2win said:

I have a JB 56 and a 286 52, I equally love them both. I tried I few other wedges this year and went right back to sub 70

Yeah, I went 286 54 and low bounce jb 58… it’s a solid combination that gets things done around the green for me…

I shot a 75 with 11 GIR and 4 bogeys… the wedges gave me makeable par putts all day long.

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Mavrik 9 degree - Ventus Black 7X

Mavrik 13.5 Degree - Hazardus Smoke

Sub70 19 degree - Proforce V2 8F5

Sub70 4u - Proforce V2 8F5

Sub70 5i - DG S400

Adams CMB 6-GW - Project X 6.0

Sub70 54 (286) and 58 (JB Low Bounce) - S300

SeeMore Trimetal Mallet (Custom fit and built... Kudos to Cody)

And as always, Kudos to Craigers.

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On 7/16/2021 at 11:10 PM, Thin2win said:

I have a JB 56 and a 286 52, I equally love them both. I tried I few other wedges this year and went right back to sub 70

Being that you were a bit skeptical of performance across wedge brands (I think that was your thread), do you think the Sub70s are that much better than the other stuff you tried? I've been eying the JB wedges and am thinking a set of raw ones might be my next wedge purchase.

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18.5° Driving Iron: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra KING Utility (2016 Model), 39.5", Mitsubishi MMT Utility 105 TX
21° Hybrid:
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Had a bunch of back and forth with Dan regarding shaft selection.

I have a very high ball flight with my DG S300s and was looking for a way to drive that down some.  Problem is the S300s are low flight already.

After some conversation I may try C-Taper Xs soft stepped when I finally jump in.

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45 minutes ago, etakmit said:

Had a bunch of back and forth with Dan regarding shaft selection.

I have a very high ball flight with my DG S300s and was looking for a way to drive that down some.  Problem is the S300s are low flight already.

After some conversation I may try C-Taper Xs soft stepped when I finally jump in.

Is actually high or perceived high? What’s your launch angle, spin, apex, land angle?

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Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

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