Sub70 golf

[myherobobhope]

5 hours ago, etakmit said:

wait ... " a call " ... im not familiar with this terminology 

If you have the time, reach out to Jason. He's the owner... he will happily walk through shaft selections... he knows his stuff. 

[Bossfan]

4 hours ago, myherobobhope said:

If you have the time, reach out to Jason. He's the owner... he will happily walk through shaft selections... he knows his stuff. 

I second that. 

[etakmit]

22 hours ago, myherobobhope said:

If you have the time, reach out to Jason. He's the owner... he will happily walk through shaft selections... he knows his stuff. 

That's my intention at some point!

[vandyland]

I have read this entire thread but didn't see anybody that went into detail (may have missed it) about the 639CB vs 699pro. I am currently demoing the 639CB and I love the looks, feel and feedback it gives but I am probably a shade or two short on the talent required to play them (if interested see thread here ). I have read the website copy and I know that the feel will likely differ significantly going from a forged player's cavity back to an injected, hollow body milled iron but I am trying to move beyond "feel" since that is subjective. BUT, I would like to be able to feel where I missed on the clubface on mishits. That is an issue I have on my Cobra F9s and was wondering if people who have hit both 639CB and 699pro can comment on the differences in feedback on the two as well as maybe spin and ballspeed. Thanks in advance!

[myherobobhope]

3 hours ago, vandyland said:

I have read this entire thread but didn't see anybody that went into detail (may have missed it) about the 639CB vs 699pro. I am currently demoing the 639CB and I love the looks, feel and feedback it gives but I am probably a shade or two short on the talent required to play them (if interested see thread here ). I have read the website copy and I know that the feel will likely differ significantly going from a forged player's cavity back to an injected, hollow body milled iron but I am trying to move beyond "feel" since that is subjective. BUT, I would like to be able to feel where I missed on the clubface on mishits. That is an issue I have on my Cobra F9s and was wondering if people who have hit both 639CB and 699pro can comment on the differences in feedback on the two as well as maybe spin and ballspeed. Thanks in advance!

I have the 4 utility and the 5 639… there is definitely less feedback from the 699, but you can still feel the impact. They are solid clubs… im a 7 handicap and a decent ball striker and I’d happily play them but I don’t want the distance gains. 

[Hook DeLoft]

19 hours ago, vandyland said:

I have read this entire thread but didn't see anybody that went into detail (may have missed it) about the 639CB vs 699pro. I am currently demoing the 639CB and I love the looks, feel and feedback it gives but I am probably a shade or two short on the talent required to play them (if interested see thread here ). I have read the website copy and I know that the feel will likely differ significantly going from a forged player's cavity back to an injected, hollow body milled iron but I am trying to move beyond "feel" since that is subjective. BUT, I would like to be able to feel where I missed on the clubface on mishits. That is an issue I have on my Cobra F9s and was wondering if people who have hit both 639CB and 699pro can comment on the differences in feedback on the two as well as maybe spin and ballspeed. Thanks in advance!

I'm hoping someone with experience of both will see your post and chime in.  I haven't played either, so I'm no help there.  I will say all the hollow bodied irons I've hit, including 2 models I've owned, gave less feedback than muscle backs or small, one piece cavity backs.  I am currently playing the original PXG 0211 irons and can tell by feel and sound when I mishit it, but I can only tell where on the face I hit it if it was a HUGE mishit.  Another factor is the shaft.  Graphite and shafts with dampening inserts will give less feedback.  I have an ancient set of Wilson blades that I put prosoft inserts into.  I used to be able to pinpoint the mishits with those.  With the softening inserts I only get a general idea.

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

So question to everyone (maybe someone has hit both), and @GolfSub70. I game the 939X hybrid. Is it worth it to upgrade to the 949X? Is the face really much hotter? Does the sole really help the turf interaction(looks really nice in the pictures)? 

[Jonny_Crash]

4 hours ago, rbsiedsc said:

So question to everyone (maybe someone has hit both), and @GolfSub70. I game the 939X hybrid. Is it worth it to upgrade to the 949X? Is the face really much hotter? Does the sole really help the turf interaction(looks really nice in the pictures)? 

It's a bigger number, so of course it is better /s  

 

(honestly no idea, but I'm looking at it for a 4H.  I'm torn between a 4H, 4U or a 4i.  I need something that gets a bit higher in the air, so I'm leaning hybrid, but I don't know.)

[vandyland]

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(honestly no idea, but I'm looking at it for a 4H.  I'm torn between a 4H, 4U or a 4i.  I need something that gets a bit higher in the air, so I'm leaning hybrid, but I don't know.)

You should check out the TXG youtube video on long iron vs hybrid vs fairway wood for flight, spin, etc. It was eye opening to me and the results should have been fairly obvious (iron flights lowest, hybrid mid, fwy wood highest) but the spin was interesting because the irons not only fly low they also have less spin and less steep decent angle so harder to hold greens. I also find that, off a tee, a 4 hybrid is straighter than a 4 iron most of the time. 

[Jonny_Crash]

At my skill level, I don't realistically have any hope of holding a green from 220+ all I'm looking for is nGIR (obviously, it makes sense to have the best tool to hold the green).  

I tend to hit pretty high in general, but it looks like my 5i has a descent angle around 35-38*  That isn't giving me a great chance to hold a certain distance as it tends to run quite a bit after landing.  So I think perhaps a 4H is the best option for me (and probably to replace my 3U with a 3H as well).  The upper end of the bag is a challenge for me to find the right clubs. 

Edited July 15, 2021 by Jonny_Crash

[JFish350]

Feels soooo god to be able to swing clubs again. 

I currently have 2 sets of demos. 699 and the 699 pros. 
I really like the 699’s. Smooth same distance as my current XHot Callaways, but have a better feel and the ball flight is the same. To me easier to work a draw but it takes me a bit to hit a fade with them which I am fine with. 
 

I haven’t hit the Pros yet but will either tonight or tomorrow. 
 

i think my biggest problem is going to be figuring out the top end of the bag. I won’t have anything from a 4 iron to my driver. The reason I’m in the market for clubs is my bag took a dive and I had 4 of the clubs break. Driver, 1 iron , 4 & 7 irons. a phone call will be made to get suggestions soon. 
 

great thread here fellas. 

[tommc23]

2 hours ago, JFish350 said:

Feels soooo god to be able to swing clubs again. 

I currently have 2 sets of demos. 699 and the 699 pros. 
I really like the 699’s. Smooth same distance as my current XHot Callaways, but have a better feel and the ball flight is the same. To me easier to work a draw but it takes me a bit to hit a fade with them which I am fine with. 
 

I haven’t hit the Pros yet but will either tonight or tomorrow. 
 

i think my biggest problem is going to be figuring out the top end of the bag. I won’t have anything from a 4 iron to my driver. The reason I’m in the market for clubs is my bag took a dive and I had 4 of the clubs break. Driver, 1 iron , 4 & 7 irons. a phone call will be made to get suggestions soon. 
 

great thread here fellas. 

 Check out my review on the hybrid that I just posted. I was in the same boat it is filling that gap perfectly!

[NC Golfer]

Anyone play the 799 irons?

[myherobobhope]

My 58 JB was an all star today in route to my lowest round in 20 years… love my sub70 stuff!

[Thin2win]

5 hours ago, myherobobhope said:

My 58 JB was an all star today in route to my lowest round in 20 years… love my sub70 stuff!

I have a JB 56 and a 286 52, I equally love them both. I tried I few other wedges this year and went right back to sub 70

[myherobobhope]

8 hours ago, Thin2win said:

I have a JB 56 and a 286 52, I equally love them both. I tried I few other wedges this year and went right back to sub 70

Yeah, I went 286 54 and low bounce jb 58… it’s a solid combination that gets things done around the green for me…

I shot a 75 with 11 GIR and 4 bogeys… the wedges gave me makeable par putts all day long.

[edingc]

On 7/16/2021 at 11:10 PM, Thin2win said:

I have a JB 56 and a 286 52, I equally love them both. I tried I few other wedges this year and went right back to sub 70

Being that you were a bit skeptical of performance across wedge brands (I think that was your thread), do you think the Sub70s are that much better than the other stuff you tried? I've been eying the JB wedges and am thinking a set of raw ones might be my next wedge purchase.

[Thin2win]

23 hours ago, edingc said:

Being that you were a bit skeptical of performance across wedge brands (I think that was your thread), do you think the Sub70s are that much better than the other stuff you tried? I've been eying the JB wedges and am thinking a set of raw ones might be my next wedge purchase.

I'm still very skeptical. I'll even say extremely skeptical. I just don't know that there is enough metal to move around in a standard wedge to make much difference on spin or forgiveness. 

That said, I'm willing to admit that it seems mizuno and ping do have some tech that makes a real difference in the wet so there is that. 

After my wedge experience this spring I'll definitely agree that bounce /grind makes a huge difference. Read below. 

I don't know if it is the black finish, or the bounce /sole style on the Sub70 wedges, but I don't hit them fat. And that is why I like them so much. I had some Mac daddy's 2 years ago that I hit fat all the time, got a prior Gen sub 70 wedge last spring and hit it great right from the start. 

After a year or use and abuse the Sub70 needed replacement. I threw the Mac daddy's back in the back for 3 rounds, and instantly started chunking all wedge shots inside 100y. 

I tried the Kirkland wedges because that price can't be beat, chunked them for 3 rounds and returned them. Got this set of sub 70s since I had done well with previous one. 

These arrived and I was able to hit the ball again. I still think if I had any wedge brand with the same bounce and sole as these I would hit them just as well... But maybe not. 

For whatever reason these have proven to be the best wedges for my swing I've used. I can't say why, but they are. I really like the 2 different wedges, the JB definitely opens up easier for touch shots around the green. The 286 is good for full swings and anything less. 

Tl:DR - best wedges ever, don't buy anything else

[etakmit]

Had a bunch of back and forth with Dan regarding shaft selection.

I have a very high ball flight with my DG S300s and was looking for a way to drive that down some.  Problem is the S300s are low flight already.

After some conversation I may try C-Taper Xs soft stepped when I finally jump in.

[RickyBobby_PR]

45 minutes ago, etakmit said:

Had a bunch of back and forth with Dan regarding shaft selection.

I have a very high ball flight with my DG S300s and was looking for a way to drive that down some.  Problem is the S300s are low flight already.

After some conversation I may try C-Taper Xs soft stepped when I finally jump in.

Is actually high or perceived high? What’s your launch angle, spin, apex, land angle?