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For anyone that got the 286 and the JB wedges, what are the most noticeable differences? Is one better suited for lower/higher lofts than the other? Better to mix and match vs. all the same?

 

 I currently game the TM Milled Grind 2.0s, and I am trying to put together a second set of clubs to save space when traveling between seasons. When I decided to buy the milled grinds, I loved that they had a “responsive” face compared to the Vokeys, which were too soft for my liking. The Jaws wedges just felt like rocks and the Mizunos didn’t match my eye. It’s hard to beat the price of the Sub70s, and I love brand and all the customization options they offer.

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Ping i210 4i-GW+KBS Tour V Stiff

TM Milled Grind 2.0 55°+KBS Tour V Stiff

TM Milled Grind 2.0 60°+KBS Tour V Stiff

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1 hour ago, Volfan4lyfe said:

For anyone that got the 286 and the JB wedges, what are the most noticeable differences? Is one better suited for lower/higher lofts than the other? Better to mix and match vs. all the same?

 

 I currently game the TM Milled Grind 2.0s, and I am trying to put together a second set of clubs to save space when traveling between seasons. When I decided to buy the milled grinds, I loved that they had a “responsive” face compared to the Vokeys, which were too soft for my liking. The Jaws wedges just felt like rocks and the Mizunos didn’t match my eye. It’s hard to beat the price of the Sub70s, and I love brand and all the customization options they offer.

I have both, I like both. From my usage and experience with them, the 286 is a little better suited for full swing shots. The grind on it doesn't let it open up very well. Which is why I have it on my 52°. The JB allows for a little more creative use and it sits much flatter when opened up. 

But taking them both at full swing, me personally, I don't notice a huge difference(or even a small one really). I think that if you like to open the face, the JB is the way to go, as that is the area that I do notice a difference. I have full confidence in both anytime I pull them out. 

Hope that helps answer your question. 

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FW Wood:     th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg Gen5 0311 7w  Fujikura Motore X F3

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

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On another Sub70 question, anyone(@GolfSub70 )know why they didn't have a 3w in the fairway wood test this year?

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FW Wood:     th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg Gen5 0311 7w  Fujikura Motore X F3

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

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14 minutes ago, Thin2win said:

On another Sub70 question, anyone(@GolfSub70 )know why they didn't have a 3w in the fairway wood test this year?

Someone asked in the blog and they didn't have any available, supply issues.

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Driver: :titelist-small: TSi2 Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 6.0
Hybrid: :mizuno-small: Fli Hi 3 & 4 Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 80 6.0

Irons: :mizuno-small: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4
Wedges: :mizuno-small: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4
Putter :Sub70: Sycamore 005 Wide Blade
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Balls: :mizuno-small: RB Tour or RB Tour X

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41 minutes ago, Thin2win said:

I have both, I like both. From my usage and experience with them, the 286 is a little better suited for full swing shots. The grind on it doesn't let it open up very well. Which is why I have it on my 52°. The JB allows for a little more creative use and it sits much flatter when opened up. 

But taking them both at full swing, me personally, I don't notice a huge difference(or even a small one really). I think that if you like to open the face, the JB is the way to go, as that is the area that I do notice a difference. I have full confidence in both anytime I pull them out. 

Hope that helps answer your question. 

That absolutely answers my question. I think it solidifies my thoughts that the 286 is the move for a gap, and then do the JB for the sand and lob.

 

thanks!

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TM Sim Max 3h+Raijin Hybrid X

Ping i210 4i-GW+KBS Tour V Stiff

TM Milled Grind 2.0 55°+KBS Tour V Stiff

TM Milled Grind 2.0 60°+KBS Tour V Stiff

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21 hours ago, MattF said:

Someone asked in the blog and they didn't have any available, supply issues.

We could have submitted them but both the 939X and Pro models have been tested already.  We didn't want to resubmit the same products and sacrifice inventory that could get out to a customer instead.  The Pro model was named Best Value https://mygolfspy.com/2019-most-wanted-fairway-wood/  If we had a new model available we would have submitted it...I'm sure our new fairways will be in the 2022 testing.

 

 

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1 hour ago, GolfSub70 said:

...I'm sure our new fairways will be in the 2022 testing.

 

 

And coming to a golf bag near me. 😉

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FW Wood:     th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg Gen5 0311 7w  Fujikura Motore X F3

Utility:    :cobra-small: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X

Irons:   image.png.cbfb2d938ea45d82004d9bdeb23cf643.pngD7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils

Wedges:   :Sub70:  JB 52° , 286 56°

Putter:   :taylormade-small: MySpider X

Cart: image.png.5aa5e9b8c0d6e08a2b12be76a06a07ca.pngOnewheel XR+

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21 hours ago, Thin2win said:

And coming to a golf bag near me. 😉

Me too...I admit it, I'm a homer.

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Driver: :titelist-small: TSi2 Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 6.0
Hybrid: :mizuno-small: Fli Hi 3 & 4 Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 80 6.0

Irons: :mizuno-small: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4
Wedges: :mizuno-small: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4
Putter :Sub70: Sycamore 005 Wide Blade
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Balls: :mizuno-small: RB Tour or RB Tour X

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Just picked up the 669 Pro Utlility last week and played on Saturday on a tight tree lined course.  Boy is that thing awesome! Easy distance with control, on the short par fours and dog legs I was able to take a smooth swing and get 220-240 straight down the middle every time! This is the utility iron I've been looking for! I might need to pick up a 4 iron one to match and ditch the hybrids all together!

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:Sub70: 699U Pro 3 iron HZRDUS Yellow 6.0

:Sub70: 699 Pro Black 5-PW KBS Tour 120 Stiff Black

:cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore 48* 54* 58* True Temper Dynamic Gold Spinner

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Received my shiny brand new 699 pro's 3-AW, KBS tour shafts, stock Lamkin grips exactly when they said they would arrive. I choose these over T200's. 

Played my first round on an executive course. Score doesn't show as operator error still comes into play, but I hit them pretty good. I need to get used to the distances which I didn't think would be different from my old set. Not sure if it s me or if I'm just used to them yet but I may have lost a half a club to a club on distance. I'll know more after a few more rounds. 

 

They look awesome and feel great, looking forward to many enjoyable rounds. 

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Sub 70 949 D 9* HZRUDS 60G 6.5 smoke RDX shaft. 

Sub 70 949X 4 wood ALDILA ABV 65-S shaft

Sub 70 699 Pro 4-AW 

Sub 70 3 utility 19*

Callaway 56 and 58 wedge. 

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11 hours ago, JFish350 said:

Received my shiny brand new 699 pro's 3-AW, KBS tour shafts, stock Lamkin grips exactly when they said they would arrive. I choose these over T200's. 

Played my first round on an executive course. Score doesn't show as operator error still comes into play, but I hit them pretty good. I need to get used to the distances which I didn't think would be different from my old set. Not sure if it s me or if I'm just used to them yet but I may have lost a half a club to a club on distance. I'll know more after a few more rounds. 

 

They look awesome and feel great, looking forward to many enjoyable rounds. 

Pictures?

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:taylormade-small: 5 Wood, SLDR 19* R Flex

:cobra-small: 7 Wood, F6 22.5* R Flex

:Sub70: 939x 5 hybrid

:Sub70: Irons, 699 Pro's S Flex (6 - AW)

:Sub70:  JB Wedge 55*

:cleveland-small: Wedge, CBX 60*

:odyssey-small: Putter, Marksman Fang 35"

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17 minutes ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

Pictures?

 

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Sub 70 949 D 9* HZRUDS 60G 6.5 smoke RDX shaft. 

Sub 70 949X 4 wood ALDILA ABV 65-S shaft

Sub 70 699 Pro 4-AW 

Sub 70 3 utility 19*

Callaway 56 and 58 wedge. 

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I forgot to mention the most awesome white 70 hat. I don’t have a picture of that but will get one. 

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Sub 70 949 D 9* HZRUDS 60G 6.5 smoke RDX shaft. 

Sub 70 949X 4 wood ALDILA ABV 65-S shaft

Sub 70 699 Pro 4-AW 

Sub 70 3 utility 19*

Callaway 56 and 58 wedge. 

OG White Hot #1 putter

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4 minutes ago, JFish350 said:

 

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Great looking sticks!! Man I should have saved money and gone with sub70 instead. 

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Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue  :scotty-cameron-1:2021 Phantom X5 35"

 

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1 hour ago, rbsiedsc said:

Great looking sticks!! Man I should have saved money and gone with sub70 instead. 

For me if it’s only a 5 or 10 yard difference in distance isn't a big deal. My dispersion seems to be better, there’s a bigger sweet spot IMO unless I hit it way inside near the hosel which I’ve done at the range. To me
it’s worth saving $400 or more depending on brand. The T 200’s were roughly $1600. 

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Sub 70 949 D 9* HZRUDS 60G 6.5 smoke RDX shaft. 

Sub 70 949X 4 wood ALDILA ABV 65-S shaft

Sub 70 699 Pro 4-AW 

Sub 70 3 utility 19*

Callaway 56 and 58 wedge. 

OG White Hot #1 putter

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1 minute ago, JFish350 said:

For me if it’s only a 5 or 10 yard difference in distance isn't a big deal. My dispersion seems to be better, there’s a bigger sweet spot IMO unless I hit it way inside near the hosel which I’ve done at the range. To me
it’s worth saving $400 or more depending on brand. The T 200’s were roughly $1600. 

ya my pxgs came in at 1,100 after shaft upgrade and fitting fee. was $39 for KBS shafts and plus price of grips from fitter. Could have saved a great deal. Alas, i have the sticks i have now and unless i can get 80% back (which likely ain't happening). Only thing i could think, if i ever get my handicap below 10, i then might treat myself to the CBs

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Driver: :callaway-small:   Epic Max LS :Fuji:Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 

3wHL: :callaway-small: Rogue ST LS 75x  Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink

7w: :callaway-small:Apex UW 21* MMT 80S

4-AW: th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg  0211  with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 1/2" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched

Wedges     :cleveland-small: Zipcore 

Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue  :scotty-cameron-1:2021 Phantom X5 35"

 

Ball:    :srixon-small: Z Star XV (back up balls :titleist-small:ProV1 Left Dot,  :OnCore:Vero X1, :titelist-small: proV1)

Shot Tracking: :ShotScope:

Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0

Grip: Lamkin Sonar +  Midsize 

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 :1332069271_TommyArmour:TAIII #2  Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter )

 :cleveland-small: Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here)

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On 2/3/2019 at 6:50 AM, MattF said:

I follow them on the old Twitter and I like what they're doing...very tempted but the Bridgestones are too good at the moment.

What Bridgestone clubs are you talking about?  Interested in the brand....

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18 hours ago, JFish350 said:

Received my shiny brand new 699 pro's 3-AW, KBS tour shafts, stock Lamkin grips exactly when they said they would arrive. I choose these over T200's. 

Played my first round on an executive course. Score doesn't show as operator error still comes into play, but I hit them pretty good. I need to get used to the distances which I didn't think would be different from my old set. Not sure if it s me or if I'm just used to them yet but I may have lost a half a club to a club on distance. I'll know more after a few more rounds. 

 

They look awesome and feel great, looking forward to many enjoyable rounds. 

This executive course wasn't Charbonneau was it? 

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:titelist-small: 818 H1 19* Hybrid AV Tensi Blue Stiff

:Sub70: 699U Pro 3 iron HZRDUS Yellow 6.0

:Sub70: 699 Pro Black 5-PW KBS Tour 120 Stiff Black

:cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore 48* 54* 58* True Temper Dynamic Gold Spinner

Putter:

:titelist-small: See the source image Phantom X5- Current Gamer

:taylormade-small: Spider Tour Black on Black on Black

:Sub70: Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Putter

Ball: :titelist-small: . Pro V1 

Currently testing: Sub 70 848 Pro Driver 

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2 hours ago, twyatt700 said:

This executive course wasn't Charbonneau was it? 

Yes it was. My wife likes it, its an easy walk and there's only maybe two holes I would need a driver on. I loaned it to my buddy in the group behind us. 

Sub 70 949 D 9* HZRUDS 60G 6.5 smoke RDX shaft. 

Sub 70 949X 4 wood ALDILA ABV 65-S shaft

Sub 70 699 Pro 4-AW 

Sub 70 3 utility 19*

Callaway 56 and 58 wedge. 

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I ran across Sub70 golf a couple years ago when I was in the market for a new stand bag. Looked at many different brands including Sub70 and compared them all from features to price. Sub70 had comparable features to other name brand golf bags, but Sub70 price was much cheaper than those name brands for a stand bag. I bought the Sub70 and was not disappointed. 

 Just recently I was looking to replace my worn out Vokey wedges. Looked at the Vokey's again ,but also looked at Sub70 wedges. Read up on both brands newest wedges and chose the Sub70 52 and 56 degree wedges based on comparable features and lower price compared to Vokey. Have now played several rounds with them and I am not disappointed by my choice. They are every bit as good as my Vokey wedges performance wise and I saved money as well. 

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