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Is it Tuesday yet?! I’m excited to test these bad boys out and compare them to my Srixon 765s. We will see if I can keep up with Josh and compete with his numbers. This beautiful Illinois weather is driving me insane. I need some golf in my life ASAP. I’m heading to Vegas in March for a work conference so I’m sure that won’t help any as well.


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Titleist 917 D2 9.5 Aldila Rogue Max Low X stiff flex 

Cobra F8+ 3-4 Wood 2knv green shaft 

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Srixon U65 4 iron Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 X stiff

Srixon 765 5-PW Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 X stiff flex standard length/ 1 degree flat

Vokey 52/56/60

Bettinardi SS28 Center Shafted Putter

Srixon Zstar XV 2019 

 

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I have both the 639CB and 699 6 and 9 iron demos. KBS X Tour shafts.  First off, both clubs are beautiful pieces of work.  When you have them in hand, it is obvious that they are high quality. I especially like the forged look of the CB’s.  

I have taken them to a Foresight Simulator twice and all distances were consistent with each trip. 

I have RAC LT’s, dinosaur clubs I know.  Overall, the 699s perform and feel amazing. The ball jumps off the face . Across the board, my shot height is consistent between the 3 sets, but as you will see, the 699’s really stand out.  Picked up 15 yards carry with the 6 and 12 yards with the 9 iron compared to my clubs and hit the ball straighter.  To be honest, I have really struggled to hit the 639CB consistently.  I think it is a case of the Chef and not the food as I know others can hit them. With the offset, I probably need the lie adjusted +2 as the demos are just standard lie because I cannot get consistent contact. 

I am so impressed that I am considering a 6 hour drive to meet the guys and get a proper fitting.  I am excited to try their other clubs as well.  I am so happy to have run across the company on twitter as someone who has had the same irons for 14 years and has no desire to drop $2k. I have shown off the clubs to several buddies who drop $1,500 on new sticks every few years, and they are impressed.  

I also want to point out that I originally mis-ordered my demos and embarrassingly had to email shortly after placing the order.  Jason personally called me within an hour and talked me through the demo fitting.  Great service!

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@DaytonFlyers6 Any chance you have or can grab a couple close up  pics of the 639CB and 699 6 and 9 irons at address?

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Driver:    PXG Gen2 0811x 10.5* set to small + with a VA Composites Nemesys 55s @ 44.75"

Fairway:  :srixon-small: F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5"

Irons: Testing the Titleist T200 irons 4-W2 with Project X LZ 5.5 shaft -1/2" and 1* Up

Wedge: Titleist SM7 56* with Project X LZ 5.0 shaft

Putter:  :scotty-cameron-1: Custom Futura X5 flow neck with a UST Frequency Filtered shaft -1" with a SS wristlock grip

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7 minutes ago, DaytonFlyers6 said:

BlacknGold, since it’s not football season, I will oblige!

I hope these photos do them justice. First is the 639CB, second is the 699. 

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Thank you.   SWMBO would kill me if I bought more golf equipment right now with a wedding and a high school graduation coming up over the next year but man those 699's are calling my name.  I wonder how much blood/semen I would need to donate! 🤣

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What is in my Bag Boy Revolver

Driver:    PXG Gen2 0811x 10.5* set to small + with a VA Composites Nemesys 55s @ 44.75"

Fairway:  :srixon-small: F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5"

Irons: Testing the Titleist T200 irons 4-W2 with Project X LZ 5.5 shaft -1/2" and 1* Up

Wedge: Titleist SM7 56* with Project X LZ 5.0 shaft

Putter:  :scotty-cameron-1: Custom Futura X5 flow neck with a UST Frequency Filtered shaft -1" with a SS wristlock grip

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2 minutes ago, blackngold_blood said:

Thank you.   SWMBO would kill me if I bought more golf equipment right now with a wedding and a high school graduation coming up over the next year but man those 699's are calling my name.  I wonder how much blood/semen I would need to donate! 🤣

Only one way to find out...

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Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff

Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock

 

 

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I wonder how similar the 699’s are to the TM p790’s...

hat would be a nice visual and performance comparison...wink, wink...

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:cobra-small: F8 5/6 wood on Aldila NxT GEN MLT R

:Hogan: Combo iron set -8,9,per Icon 5,6,7 PtxPro 4-UiHi on Recoil 780 ES f4 Stiff shafts (best clubs ever)

:benhogan-small: Equalizer 50°, 54°, 60° wedges on Recoil 780 f4

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I posted a thread just now with a little background on me and my experience with Sub 70 golf today.  You can check it out here 

 

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Cobra F8+ 3-4 Wood 2knv green shaft 

Srixon U65 18 Steel Fiber i110x 

Srixon U65 4 iron Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 X stiff

Srixon 765 5-PW Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 X stiff flex standard length/ 1 degree flat

Vokey 52/56/60

Bettinardi SS28 Center Shafted Putter

Srixon Zstar XV 2019 

 

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USGA handicap index 22.1

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First off I want to apologize for not taking any pictures while I was at Sub 70 today.  I was caught up in the moment.  A little backstory on me is that I just started playing golf only a couple of years ago.  I've played baseball and softball competitively all my life and traveled the country doing it.  I had a great uncle and my uncle who was like a father to me pass away 5 years ago.  They loved golf and I never understood it until my fiancee and I found out we were expecting.  I made the decision to hang up the cleats and quit traveling the country playing ball.  That change depressed me for awhile.  I didn't have anything to feed my competitive nature and ultimately led me to taking up golf.  That was one of the best decisions I've ever made.  I joined a local country club and used a set of clubs that was my uncles.  They were a set of Cobra Gravity back irons with X100 shafts.  Sure this set of irons was nowhere near fit for me but it was a start.  I was absolutely horrible at the game and it was quite frustrating as I knew I was better than the 36 handicap with how athletic I am.  After that first year at the country club I met a fellow member on here [mention=52743]jacustomgolf[/mention].  We became good friends and league partners.  Right before we met and started golfing together purchased a set of 716 AP2 irons with S300 shafts in them that our pro fit me for.  That first year of golfing in league I brought my handicap down to a 30 but still struggled.  With the help of Josh and his expertise the following year I knocked a couple more strokes off my handicap to a 28 but something was missing.  Last year in the off-season I worked on my driver all winter long and things were finally starting to click.  Josh and I went to club champion and I was fit in a totally different shaft and set up.  After messaging Josh a million times I finally purchased a set of Srixon 765 irons with the Nippon Modus 3 tour 120 x stiff shafts.  This was a game changer!  I dropped the handicap down to a 22 and I still struggle with the driver but its coming along.  Enough of me and lets get to the story of what led me to Sub 70 golf.
 
Around a month ago Josh mentioned something to me about a new direct to consumer golf brand.  That golf brand is called Sub 70 golf.  I talked with Josh more about this and ended up emailing Jason at Sub 70 to set up a fitting.  Since then there has been a lot of talk about this brand model and the brand itself.  I took the 2:45 drive to Sub 70 today to meet with Jason, swing some of their products, and compare them to my current set up.  Jason and the staff at Sub 70 did not disappoint.  As I stated earlier I have been to Club Champion the previous year and experienced the corporate side of a fitting.  Yes it was impressive with all the different shaft and head combinations but I did not like that they try to push you into upgraded overpriced shafts.  I didn't know what to think about Sub 70 at first as it is a smaller company only selling their brand.  Let me tell you I am extremely happy that I chose to do this.  Jason took me from his office, through the warehouse, back into a room with a simulator that had a bunch of their irons lined against the wall and also his personal set of clubs.  Jason looked over my clubs and discussed options that they offer for irons (639 CB forged, 739, and 699).  After looking at my Srixon 765s he asked if I was professionally fit for them or how I came to purchase them.  We talked a little more about them and he asked me to warm up using my irons and watched me swing.  As its February in Illinois and the weather hasn't been the greatest I have not swung a club in months.  He noticed a little tweaks that I needed to make in my swing and once I was fully warmed up and in my grooved he handed me the 639 CB and asked me to try it.  It took me a couple swings to adjust as the 639 CB had the DG S300 shaft in it.  What happened next surprised me.  I was gaining a full 14-17 yards even on miss hits!  I kept switching back to my 765s as if my eyes and the numbers were deceiving me.  The 639 CBs definitely impressed me as well as the wedges!  I was carrying the 6 iron in the 200-210yd range and miss-hits were carrying 190-200yd range.  We both agreed the Nippon Modus 3 tour 120 x stiff shafts were the best fit for shafts for me.  Now the wedges.  The pictures of the black wedges online don't do them any justice.  As soon as Jason brought me one I almost had to wipe my mouth from drool.  I LOVE a nice jet black vehicle and this wedge has the look and shine of that and they perform!  The feel was so soft and smooth it was crazy.  At times I wondered if I was hitting a ball or not.  Thats how good they feel!  Jason was extremely honest with me and looked through my bag and saw I have a Cobra F8+ 3 wood with a 2knv green x stiff shaft, a Srixon U65 iron with a steel fibre i110cw x stiff shaft, and a U65 4 iron with the Nippon Modus 3 tour 120 x stiff shaft and told me that it would be pointless to even try and fit me into their 3 wood and hybrids.  He said what I have are excellent clubs and work just fine.  The honesty went a long way with me!  We chatted for a little while longer, went into his office and wrote all the specs down (shaft, lie, grip, and head) and he told me he would send me a quote later today.  He thanked me for coming out and testing his products and I thanked him for taking the time to work with me and let me demo his clubs.   As I was on my way back home I received an email with a quote for what I swung.  Sticker shock?!  NO WAY!!  I called him instantly after I read the quote and asked him if he wanted some money.  I could not believe the price as it felt like it was too good to be true but that is the whole point of the direct to consumer model.  
 
Let me just conclude with if you are in the market for new clubs I highly recommend checking out their clubs.   If you are just a car ride away from Sycamore, IL give them a buzz and go test the clubs in person with Jason (the owner).  If you are farther away than a car ride go online to www.golfsub70.com and check out their demo program.  Worst case scenario you are out $20.  I don't know about you but I would rather be out $20 instead of $800-$1,000 for a new set of clubs.  Sorry this post is a mile long and if anyone has any questions please feel free to ask them on here and I will respond.  Thanks for reading and in 2019 I WILL BE PLAYING the @sub70golf 639 CB 5-PW, 50, 54, and 58 wedges.  I will also start a thread and keep a log of how I play with them if this weather ever decides to cooperate in Illinois and will also post pictures of the Sub 70 clubs when they come in.  



Nice write up now we just need warmer weather.


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Driver: Taylormade M6 10.5*

FW: Sub70 16* 4 wood

Irons:  Sub 70 

699 Pro - 3 Iron (4 iron bent to 20*)

639 CB 4 - 6

639 MB 7 - PW

Wedges:

Titleist Vokey SM7 50* 54* & 60*

Putter: Taylormade Spider
Ball: Titleist Pro V1X
Bag: Sub 70 Cart Bag
Handicap index:  +3.5

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As a whole, I'm impressed with Sub70's ability to keep up with the big boys in the Most Wanted tested. Middle of the pack is VERY respectable for a new company with direct to consumer prices. Given a year or two to perfect their product, they could be a top contender. Huge kudos to Sub70! 

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Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff

Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock

 

 

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52 minutes ago, GB13 said:

As a whole, I'm impressed with Sub70's ability to keep up with the big boys in the Most Wanted tested. Middle of the pack is VERY respectable for a new company with direct to consumer prices. Given a year or two to perfect their product, they could be a top contender. Huge kudos to Sub70! 

I'd add this: especially in the driver category. I won't be shocked at all if they do well in irons, especially their blades. There, the major OEMs have no significant tech advantage. But to put up that showing in drivers is even more impressive.

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:taylormade-small: M4 3HL 16.5°, Atmos Red 60
:cobra-small: F6 5-6W, 19.5°, Fujikura Motore 6.3
:755178188_TourEdge: CBX 20°, Project X HZRDUS 85 5.5
:Sub70: 699 Pro, Modus3 105, 5–PW
:Sub70: Forged Black 50°, 54°, and 58°
:odyssey-small: Stroke Lab EXO Seven Mini, 34"
:srixon-small: Z-Star XV

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11 hours ago, GB13 said:

As a whole, I'm impressed with Sub70's ability to keep up with the big boys in the Most Wanted tested. Middle of the pack is VERY respectable for a new company with direct to consumer prices. Given a year or two to perfect their product, they could be a top contender. Huge kudos to Sub70! 

Thank you!  

10 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

I'd add this: especially in the driver category. I won't be shocked at all if they do well in irons, especially their blades. There, the major OEMs have no significant tech advantage. But to put up that showing in drivers is even more impressive.

Thank you.  Driver was by far the hardest product for us to get finalized.  We were told that the driver performed really well for testers with higher swing speeds but not so much for those with the lower swing speeds.  Being a smaller niche/boutique company, the driver was designed with our market in mind.  We truly believe that given the right shaft, length, loft, etc. that the head can produce ball speeds, launch angles and spin numbers comparable to the $600+ drivers.  It helps that we can get people into any custom shaft and still save them a good deal of money.  That being said, we're really excited to see how the irons, wedges, hybrids and fairway woods perform.  

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Thank you!  

Thank you.  Driver was by far the hardest product for us to get finalized.  We were told that the driver performed really well for testers with higher swing speeds but not so much for those with the lower swing speeds.  Being a smaller niche/boutique company, the driver was designed with our market in mind.  We truly believe that given the right shaft, length, loft, etc. that the head can produce ball speeds, launch angles and spin numbers comparable to the $600+ drivers.  It helps that we can get people into any custom shaft and still save them a good deal of money.  That being said, we're really excited to see how the irons, wedges, hybrids and fairway woods perform.  

That's good stuff, the breakdown by swing speed usually follows the full results within two weeks or so.   Not an official time frame, just going off past years. 

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1 minute ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

That's good stuff, the breakdown by swing speed usually follows the full results within two weeks or so.   Not an official time frame, just going off past years. 

Yeah we're interested to see how those results look.  It can be really tough with drivers due to the shaft, length and loft variables.  It sounds like the driver head may get put into the TRUEGolfFit system so it certainly worked well for some testers.

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11 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

I'd add this: especially in the driver category. I won't be shocked at all if they do well in irons, especially their blades. There, the major OEMs have no significant tech advantage. But to put up that showing in drivers is even more impressive.

Since MGS tests only with stock shafts, Sub70 not having the same access to stock shafts may have hurt them in this test. They also won't have the library of no-charge exotic shafts that many of the big OEM's have access to. Maybe that hurts them, I don't know.

But I agree. I am very interested to see where the irons fall. 

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Driver- PING G400 LST w/ Project X Evenflow Black

Fwy- TM Aeroburner 16.5HL

Irons- Callaway Steelhead XR (3-PW)

Wedges- Callaway MD3 (50,54,58)

Putter- Cleveland TFI Satin Cero

Ball-  Snell MTB-X

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13 minutes ago, newballcoach said:

Since MGS tests only with stock shafts, Sub70 not having the same access to stock shafts may have hurt them in this test. They also won't have the library of no-charge exotic shafts that many of the big OEM's have access to. Maybe that hurts them, I don't know.

But I agree. I am very interested to see where the irons fall. 

The stock shaft situation certainly could have had an impact on some of the numbers.  We CAN get nearly any premium/upgrade driver shaft possible and will offer very fair pricing on those upgrades.  Even with a high end shaft upgrade the total driver cost will be significantly lower than the OEMs with the same shaft.

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Since MGS tests only with stock shafts, Sub70 not having the same access to stock shafts may have hurt them in this test. They also won't have the library of no-charge exotic shafts that many of the big OEM's have access to. Maybe that hurts them, I don't know.
But I agree. I am very interested to see where the irons fall. 

If the irons are not in the top I will be surprised. Myself and another member are putting the 639 CB in play over our Srixon 765s and we all know how high the 765s were ranked.


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Titleist 917 D2 9.5 Aldila Rogue Max Low X stiff flex 

Cobra F8+ 3-4 Wood 2knv green shaft 

Srixon U65 18 Steel Fiber i110x 

Srixon U65 4 iron Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 X stiff

Srixon 765 5-PW Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 X stiff flex standard length/ 1 degree flat

Vokey 52/56/60

Bettinardi SS28 Center Shafted Putter

Srixon Zstar XV 2019 

 

Right Handed

Champaign, IL

USGA handicap index 22.1

Twitter: @darrenp36

Instagram: @dpow36

 

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If the irons are not in the top I will be surprised. Myself and another member are putting the 639 CB in play over our Srixon 765s and we all know how high the 765s were ranked.


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I'm very curious to see how they do as well. The CB's are very intriguing the more I look at them. Just wish I could get them in a DBM finish.

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Driver: Mizuno ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S
Fairway Wood: Mizuno ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S
Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Nike Vapor Pro Combo (4-PW) Dynamic Gold Pro S300
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 50*, 54*, & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura 6m 33"
Ball: Bridgestone Tour B XS
Bag: 2017 Titleist Players 5 Stand Bag

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The wedges look pretty good, but I would like one more groove at the bottom.  Necessary where I play.

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