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Nice write up, wedges look clean and well built.


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Nice looking wedges there Sluggo. I really like the aesthetics, like you said, a hand crafted look, but without a lot of graphics.

I like that the wedge leading had a little radius. I’ve come to realize I like a rounder leading edge since using my old Hogan Sand Iron. I’ve realized that the rounded looking leading edge makes it easy for me to open up the wedge, as it still looks the same when open, where a more straight leading edge makes it harder on my eye.

I hope Sub 70 can get a hold on the market. I like that they have a quality forged iron and wedge at a real good price and that they have great customer service as well.



And I look forward to hearing more about the wedges in review!


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To be brutally honest those cosmetic blemishes, straight out of the box, bother me 🤨. Were I to order a set of irons and see this, I would not be happy.  I'm actually surprised these passed QA and they chose to ship them. IMO they need to work on a final finishing process (to include passivation, etc.) to prevent corrosion. Unless one likes the look of splotchy, rusted clubs, these will require constant clean-up to keep them looking decent. The small voids on the sole plate is also something that needs to be resolved - I suspect this would be disappointing for most customers. The circular mill finish on the face is cool looking.  I presume the surface roughness is virtually smooth? Looking forward to stage 2 results.

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Looking forward to the review - as for the finish is that part of the raw look?  I agree it doesn't look great but then again at the same time wedge do get used and loved.  

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29 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

To be brutally honest those cosmetic blemishes, straight out of the box, bother me 🤨. Were I to order a set of irons and see this, I would not be happy.  I'm actually surprised these passed QA and they chose to ship them. IMO they need to work on a final finishing process (to include passivation, etc.) to prevent corrosion. Unless one likes the look of splotchy, rusted clubs, these will require constant clean-up to keep them looking decent. The small voids on the sole plate is also something that needs to be resolved - I suspect this would be disappointing for most customers. The circular mill finish on the face is cool looking.  I presume the surface roughness is virtually smooth? Looking forward to stage 2 results.

These are the “raw” version, and intentionally made to allow light oxidation to occur. That was my specific order. I could have gotten then in a satin, or black finish, which would probably be closer to your cup of tea probably?

the small “voids” on the bottom are interesting, surely due to the forging process I would imagine. Performance will not be affected in any way.

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Awesome write up, great pics. I’ll be very interested to know how they perform!


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33 minutes ago, Sluggo42 said:

These are the “raw” version, and intentionally made to allow light oxidation to occur. That was my specific order. I could have gotten then in a satin, or black finish, which would probably be closer to your cup of tea probably?

the small “voids” on the bottom are interesting, surely due to the forging process I would imagine. Performance will not be affected in any way.

It's what 30 years in aerospace does to one's expectations/standards 😲.  Good to know the "raw" is an intended design/option.  What about the surface lay of the circular mill on the faces?

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28 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

It's what 30 years in aerospace does to one's expectations/standards 😲.  Good to know the "raw" is an intended design/option.  What about the surface lay of the circular mill on the faces?

That is quite interesting, and you can feel it a bit with your fingertips. I also wonder if going “raw” will create even more spin. I’m not sure about how the satin,black finishes are applied, and if during application, many of the microscopic voids, pores, surface irregularities are somewhat filled and “smoothed” over with the coating/plating, similar to say what a coat of paint would do. Just a mil or two would definately create a smoother surface...

im guessing I will see some white golf ball skin on these faces as I break them in...

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I'd be interested in what their dark finish looks like and what they do as part of the finishing process to prevent corrosion/staining. I think it was a recent Cobra irons thread (MGS testers) that had that grey/black finish and I thought they looked really cool.  If I do buy new irons, switching to that color (if an option) will be a decision.  The OCD side of me doesn't like seeing rust on clubs and, after 30+ years of service, my PE2's have none.  

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I think the PE2’s were a cast 17-4 stainless? I don’t think they’ll ever rust...

its not like these wedges are going to turn into big balls of rust either- they just settle into a cool patina- and that I believe, turns into a protective coating of sorts on its own. It’s sort of a personal preference thing. I could have gotten them in black, or satin, but I wanted something a little different. Even though the “raw” isn’t a new concept as it was popular perhaps a decade or 2 ago. It’s merely another option. I’d like to think I’m re-starting a new fad, kind of like the blacked out clubs. But those to me, are becoming passé now. Gotta stay on top of the trends! Haha

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Nice job

Looking forward to reading more about them.


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These look awesome. Thanks for the solid write up. Looking forward to hearing how they work on the course for you.


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Great start! Anxious to see how this goes! Planning on doing any launch monitor testing head to head versus the vokeys?

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On 2/16/2019 at 7:07 PM, newballcoach said:

Great start! Anxious to see how this goes! Planning on doing any launch monitor testing head to head versus the vokeys?

No, I did some head to head at the range was all. The Vokeys were longer, but it could be because of shafts or something. I did get these bent 2° strong for gapping though, so now they’re about the same distances. These spin really good as a sharp new wedge should. 

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Here they are after 2 rounds...6F9B7D6E-818D-464D-BF7F-3247832EEDDE.jpeg.7b2a18377e3ff26126b6aa455521884f.jpeg06706A7F-D3B0-4D41-8CE9-4890CE832376.jpeg.e3b9287f95b9683e806fb8d9fb88b712.jpeg923A1BB5-EFD1-4AD6-8E8E-3AB091D6B96D.jpeg.41ea1f1fe602f594c6542740b3ec2761.jpeg46059C3A-8BEB-45A3-BF15-5E7190122EE7.jpeg.33ffb4e16c224712d7782c8eb3a86aa3.jpeg

 

and now after 4 rounds...

 

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They are really getting that raw look quickly, which is definitely nice if you like that sort of thing. The grooves and milling seem to be holding up as well. Looking good!

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I talked to Jason yesterday. May look at getting the 639 irons and a few raw wedges. Just need to play around with the specs. May have them bend the irons weak. 44 degree PW is way too strong. That’s a 9 in my old mizzys


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Here they are after 8 rounds. I’m finding the “ corrosion” to be mellowing out more as time goes by, they seem to be developing their own little patina as they’re forming the passive layer of thin corrosion that’s pretty well halted more reaction.

this will probably continue as time goes by until it gets to its “sweet spot”.

I want to quickly touch on the performance of these wedges and I must say, it’s been phenomenal.. I’m actually getting some serious spin that I need to start paying attention to. I played one shot today over the pin by 20’, and it spun back to 5’ below the pin. I wish I could hav seen that on tv. And did I mention that they are so soft? Anyways, if you haven’t been able to tell by now, I’m really liking them...

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