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2019 Most Wanted Driver PXG 0811X/0811XF

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It is a great time for equipment, but one thing I have learned over the last few months with a some time in golf bays at GG and PGATSS is that I have to work on getting a more repeatable swing before I concern myself with whether I can eek out that last 5 yards from a new driver. Right now, if I were forced to buy something, it would be an 8.5* M3 with the stock Tensei Blue shaft. It has been, by far, the best for my swing in its current state, at least according to the LM's.

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A good friend of mine who has access to the 2019 drivers tried the new TaylorMade, Callaway, & Ping.  The Ping G410 had his eyes bulging like Junior Samples in a pancake eating contest!   He said it was sweeeeeeeeeet so 2019 should be interesting in the big stick category. 

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I’m excited to compare the 2018 data (LST) and results to this year to see how they measure up. I don’t have any desire to change my driver but I would like to see what kind of gains can be made in just one calendar year.

 

 

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On 2/18/2019 at 9:04 AM, revkev said:

 

But yes there’s lots of good drivers and the PXG is one of them. But I’m on a budget so why spend the money when I can get the same performance elsewhere?

 

With the price drop in this years PXG driver it does make it a contender for me if and when I got to a fitting because it’s only 25-50 dollars more than the other oems. 

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2 hours ago, ole gray said:

A good friend of mine who has access to the 2019 drivers tried the new TaylorMade, Callaway, & Ping.  The Ping G410 had his eyes bulging like Junior Samples in a pancake eating contest!   He said it was sweeeeeeeeeet so 2019 should be interesting in the big stick category. 

TXG just did a youtube video on it and Ian (their master clubfitter) did not look like he was impressed. They compared it against the G400 LST and the LST seemed to outperform it in everyway. Now, that was for one person, and not an apples to apples comparison, but I am not sure it is going to be the hit the LST was. 

They were very high on the ST-190 and the F9, as well as the Titleist drivers, for what that's worth.

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Driver- PING G400 LST w/ Project X Evenflow Black

Fwy- TM Aeroburner 16.5HL

Irons- Callaway Steelhead XR (3-PW)

Wedges- Callaway MD3 (50,54,58)

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I'm calling it now........

Ping g410

Titleist TS

Cobra F9

Callaway Flash

PXG

TM

 

I note no-one else mentioned Titleist, are they included or are they classed as last year?

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PING G410

F9

TS

PXG

TM 

Flash

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Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

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I think PXG is going to surprise a lot of people this year....

PXG

F9

G410

Flash

M5

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17 minutes ago, M. Parsons said:

I think PXG is going to surprise a lot of people this year....

PXG

F9

G410

Flash

M5

PXG is definitely a dark horse that could win. 

What I do find interesting, is the company that bills itself as "super premium and the best" is not the favorite to take the title. They'll either be proven right all along or just making false advertising claims like everyone else. Obviously, most of us here do not believe them. 

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Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff

Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff

Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock

 

 

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10 minutes ago, GB13 said:

PXG is definitely a dark horse that could win. 

What I do find interesting, is the company that bills itself as "super premium and the best" is not the favorite to take the title. They'll either be proven right all along or just making false advertising claims like everyone else. Obviously, most of us here not believe them. 

I've been wrong many times in my life, but it seems like they saw the light since they brought the price point down so much. But you're probably right about the false claims. I hit their irons when they first came out and liked them a lot, but couldn't see myself paying that much. Funny...I even contacted them and asked for a sir name (Parsons) discount...they laughed.

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Gigagolf.com - TXR Hybrid: 3H, UST Proforce V2 S-flex, with GolfPride G2 Tour Wrap

:ping-small: G 2016, 4-PW, AWT 2.0 S-flex, +1/2", black dot, with Super Stroke - Soft Wrap TC

:titelist-small: :vokey-small: - SM8 Tour Chrome, 50.08F - 54.10S - 58.12D

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I like the looks of the G410.  The color scheme is sharp IMO and the simplicity of the adjustments makes it desirable for non techie ole coots like myself.  What does not impress me is the $500.00 bucks sticker shock that comes with gaming one of these puppies.     

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Tommy Armour 845 MAX 5 - GW Irons
Cleveland CBX 2 54 Degree SW
Tommy Armour Over N Out 58 Degree Lob
Wilson Harmonized Chipper 32 Degrees
Ping  Sigma G Tyne Putter OR Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide

 

 

 



 

 

 

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I'm calling it now........ Ping g410 Titleist TS

Cobra F9

Callaway Flash

PXG

TM

 

I note no-one else mentioned Titleist, are they included or are they classed as last year?

 

 

Titleist was in the testing.  

 I am not providing any thoughts on the results.

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Well PXG took home Most Forgiving, but to be expected with the 0811XF rolling in at 5900 Iyy and combined over 10000.

Epic Flash Sub Zero takes the crown. Will be interesting to see if Callaway uses Most Wanted as a badge of honour seeing as they declined to participate.

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The pxg stuff performed well against what’s out there. It has more checks in the pro box than the winner and only 1 con

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Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

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On 2/22/2019 at 10:46 AM, newballcoach said:

TXG just did a youtube video on it and Ian (their master clubfitter) did not look like he was impressed. They compared it against the G400 LST and the LST seemed to outperform it in everyway. Now, that was for one person, and not an apples to apples comparison, but I am not sure it is going to be the hit the LST was. 

They were very high on the ST-190 and the F9, as well as the Titleist drivers, for what that's worth.

Yeah, I saw that.   His reaction was definitely noticeable, it was like "Man, I did not see this coming.  I don't know what to say"   

For those that didn't see it,  Matt was comparing the G410 to his custom fit 400 LST.  But the only demo head that TXG had on hand was the 10.5 head compared to the 8.5 I think Matt normally plays.  As a result it was spinning I think 600 or 700 RPM more than the LST.    So even though Matt was getting more ball speed, 179 to 177 I think, he was getting an easy 20 or so yards less carry, due to the high spin.

Matt went out of his way to mention it wasn't a true or even fair comparison and they will do another testing, if a LST 410 comes out or even when they get a lower lofted 410+ head in. 

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The pxg stuff performed well against what’s out there. It has more checks in the pro box than the winner and only 1 con
Absolutely. 0811XF looks like a surefire winner based on pros and cons, and the con is a noted thing with drivers with crazy high MOI. So tbh not a real con for the category it's aimed at especially when the pros are incredibly consistent ball speed, outstanding carry consistency, exceptionally tight dispersion, while ranking first in looks and feel. To me 0811XF is the big winner here.

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1 hour ago, FrogginBullfish said:

Absolutely. 0811XF looks like a surefire winner based on pros and cons, and the con is a noted thing with drivers with crazy high MOI. So tbh not a real con for the category it's aimed at especially when the pros are incredibly consistent ball speed, outstanding carry consistency, exceptionally tight dispersion, while ranking first in looks and feel. To me 0811XF is the big winner here.

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And the con when you look at data it’s an insignificant amount of ball speed difference 

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The 0811X was 10 yards longer than my G400 Max..... Ten yards. That was with a fitting that started with stock shafts and results from those combos showing the G400 Max wasn’t going to be beaten. Then an “aha” moment by the fitter, and he grabs the new Graphite Design shaft. Bingo.
Remember, we still get to see winners broken-our by swing speed, and secondly, the tests are done with stock shafts. There’s a very good chance that a driver lower down on the list will be a winner for someone once they’ve gone through a true fitting.


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The 0811X was 10 yards longer than my G400 Max..... Ten yards. That was with a fitting that started with stock shafts and results from those combos showing the G400 Max wasn’t going to be beaten. Then an “aha” moment by the fitter, and he grabs the new Graphite Design shaft. Bingo.
Remember, we still get to see winners broken-our by swing speed, and secondly, the tests are done with stock shafts. There’s a very good chance that a driver lower down on the list will be a winner for someone once they’ve gone through a true fitting.


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Do you mean 0811XF? The 0811X is bound to be longer with faster ball speeds and low spin with the more low and forward CG location and Iyy MOI between 4400 and 4800.

Ping G400 Max at 5700 and 0811XF at 5900. If you did mean 0811XF, that's a big deal for PXG and goes to show the importance of a fitter who knows what they're doing.

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