jhak 21 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Hi all! I've been researching shafts for some hours now as I'm going to fit a new driver tomorrow. I'm probably going to get the ST190 anyway, though I'm interested to give at least the F9 a go. Considering that, I'd be really happy if you could share any facts, opinions or experiences about the stock shaft options on these drivers. I'm pretty new to the shaft business, so to be honest, I'm finding it slightly overwhelming. And that's why I'm asking for your help in the first place. To try and make things little simpler, I decided that whatever shaft I'm buying, it will have to be 40T prepeg. Is this a reasonable requirement? Please note the following options are based on European offerings (I live in Finland). ST190 Stock Shaft Options: ATMOS Blue 5/6, Red 4/5/6 (30T, not an option) ATMOS Tour Spec Black 6/7 (40T, and the only one I could find definitive info that it is 40T) Tensei CK Blue/White/Orange (only CK Pros have mention of 40T in Mitsubishi's website) Kuro Kage Silver Dual-Core TiNi (only XD has a mention of 40/46T) So this leaves me with only the ATMOS Tour Specs as viable options. What do you make of this? Which of these shafts are the best picks quality-wise? I don't expect to be able to have the club built for me on spot, so that I would fit with the actual shaft individual that I get. For this reason, I'm ready to trade some numbers against the promise of a higher quality shaft. Thanks for any help in advance! Quote "What do you got the 3-wood out for?" - Arnie ST190 8.5°, ATMOS Red 5 | Aeroburner 4H | MP-54 4i-Pw, DG R300 | Vokey SM5 50° and 54°, SM6 58° | Odyssey Versa #1W Black Link to post Share on other sites
McGolf 272 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I would not get to infatuated with 40T as the defining characteristic of the golf shaft. Chances are, the fitter will not know that parameter of the shaft unless it is part of the marketing for the shaft. There are plenty of other characteristics that will impact your choice. When the fitter does his/her job you will be evaluated and given choices associated with the evaluation. Give them a try, you may find that a non 40T shaft works better. But, do tell the fitter your interests in that type of shaft, they might have the exact thing you are looking for 3 Quote Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg ACCRA tour Z GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce Putter - 33" 3 deg loft 70 lie, lrg slight line slightly toe hang Ball - truvis Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD. HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio. Link to post Share on other sites
jhak 21 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Looking back I realize that I didn't communicate my thoughts very well. My goal was to get some insight from more experienced players on the quality of those shaft options and how much they perceive the prepreg material affects the overall build quality, value for the money and, of course, performance. I never meant to "fit" myself based on prepreg or anything else other than launch monitor results. So especially in that light I should've written the whole post again. But all's well that ends well! My leisurely swing fitted very well to the ATMOS Red 5, and the fitter was very kind and took the time to entertain me with shaft options that I have absolutely no business gaming. The experience was great and got me started good on the long road amid golf club shafts. I will say that I did think the ATMOS Tour Specs were superior in their feeling, but I can't load those shafts properly. Yet. Pic related 5 Quote "What do you got the 3-wood out for?" - Arnie ST190 8.5°, ATMOS Red 5 | Aeroburner 4H | MP-54 4i-Pw, DG R300 | Vokey SM5 50° and 54°, SM6 58° | Odyssey Versa #1W Black Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 5,232 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 4 hours ago, jhak said: Looking back I realize that I didn't communicate my thoughts very well. My goal was to get some insight from more experienced players on the quality of those shaft options and how much they perceive the prepreg material affects the overall build quality, value for the money and, of course, performance. I never meant to "fit" myself based on prepreg or anything else other than launch monitor results. So especially in that light I should've written the whole post again. But all's well that ends well! My leisurely swing fitted very well to the ATMOS Red 5, and the fitter was very kind and took the time to entertain me with shaft options that I have absolutely no business gaming. The experience was great and got me started good on the long road amid golf club shafts. I will say that I did think the ATMOS Tour Specs were superior in their feeling, but I can't load those shafts properly. Yet. Pic related Glad you found something that worked. You may be the first person that I’ve seen looking for a specific prepreg in a shaft. With graphite these companies can do a lot with graphite flags to affect how the play and feel. Quote Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4 Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125 Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
jhak 21 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 I read this MGS article about driver shafts and knowing next to nothing about them previously, the prepreg material seemed like the easiest proxy to gauge overall shaft quality. I found it really hard to find clearly reliable 3rd-party information about most of the shafts I looked up. Quote "What do you got the 3-wood out for?" - Arnie ST190 8.5°, ATMOS Red 5 | Aeroburner 4H | MP-54 4i-Pw, DG R300 | Vokey SM5 50° and 54°, SM6 58° | Odyssey Versa #1W Black Link to post Share on other sites
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