Kenny B Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, revkev said: Read Stan Utley’s book - so much simpler than Phil/Pelz. But keeping feet close together, a little open, weight on left side and lots of practice works. That and pick a ball, any quality ball and use only it - different balls are a variable Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy OK, why a little open? In Phil's video he did not say anything about an open stance. It doesn't look like he was open. Neither did Butch in the article posted by @PMookie. I have always been told to open my stance by my instructors over the years. I stopped doing this because most of my chips went left of the hole, down my foot line. When I stand closer to the ball like Harmon says and treat it more like a putt, I need to be square. Much better results. I agree about the ball. I switch balls from cold weather to warm weather. It takes me a couple of practices chipping to get the feel of the different ball. From the looks of the weather I will be using the cold weather ball for quite awhile once the snow melts. cksurfdude 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Kenny, a couple thing I work on:So your clubface should point at your target. And then swing along your foot line. Make sure to open the face then regrip if you are going to do it this way. Opening steepens the swing, so in theory it should help with ball first contact.At least this is how my mind sees it. I can do it all day long, but trying to explain it is like me trying to do common core math. cksurfdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I’ll post the video again. But you can absolutely not go wrong with learning from one of the best short game players of all time. cksurfdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 There are a lot of GREAT tips in here, but ..... none say, "Go see your pro".... Many pros offer focused short game clinics. That said.. I'd agree with many of the pointers in here - especially the one about Low-Point Control. And taking the hands out. I've practiced my short game A LOT and it has paid off. That's the best advice I can offer .. practice, practice, practice, practice. Then practice some more. Hours and hundreds, if not thousands, of balls. Indoors works. Just focus. Hit enough balls and you will start to clearly recognize the difference between a solid "nip" vs a chunk or a thin. cnosil 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) Since you struggle, and want a simple tip or trick. Then keep it simple, if you are chipping, grab either a gap wedge, or PW, stand a bit closer to the ball so the shaft is more upright, with the heel of the club slightly off the ground, and then just use a putting stroke and you control the distance the same way you do when putting. Don’t overthink it just putt it with your wedge. Very simple technique. Stance should be square just like putting. Edited March 1, 2019 by Kor.A.Door cksurfdude 1 Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 OK, why a little open? In Phil's video he did not say anything about an open stance. It doesn't look like he was open. Neither did Butch in the article posted by [mention=2567]PMookie[/mention]. I have always been told to open my stance by my instructors over the years. I stopped doing this because most of my chips went left of the hole, down my foot line. When I stand closer to the ball like Harmon says and treat it more like a putt, I need to be square. Much better results. I agree about the ball. I switch balls from cold weather to warm weather. It takes me a couple of practices chipping to get the feel of the different ball. From the looks of the weather I will be using the cold weather ball for quite awhile once the snow melts.Because it causes you to face the target - the little open thing. You become target. I have no problem with switching balls for the season of the year - that makes sense - I’m talking about generally playing the same ball.I’m not big on copying Phil, he’s incredibly gifted, most guys on tour can’t do what he does. Likewise Seve who was brilliant. Simple, think simple and practice, it’s do easy to practice the short game. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Kenny B, Shankster and cksurfdude 3 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxbeachpackerfan Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Best tip I ever got, and it works many days, but not all, 'cause it's mental. Assuming you have a basically sound technique, go up to your ball and remember that your subconscious is a lot better chipper (and golfer) than your conscious. Just pick a spot where you want your ball to hit and let your subconscious do the work. Steph Curry surely is not thinking any mechanics or calculating force and relative arc when he lets fly from 30 ft. When I can get into this mindset, good things happen. Sadly, there are many days where that mindset is totally elusive. Practice sessions focused solely on this mindset definitely help. cksurfdude 1 Quote Nonchalant putts count the same as chalant putts.In my Ogio Ozone XX Cart Stand Bag:Ping G400 10.5 Deg Driver, stock Stiff shaftTM Rocketballz 19 Deg 5 Wood, stock Matrix Osik Stiff shaftTM Rocketballz Stage 2 21 Deg Tour 4 Hybrid, Rocketfuel 80h Stiff shaft Callaway Apex CF 16 Irons, 4-P, Stiff Shafts Scor 48 and 55 degree wedges. Renegar 60 Deg Steel Shaft Lob WedgeTM Ghost Spider Si 38" Counterbalanced Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I'm going to take a simpler approach here. As a 6 handicap, you CAN chip, you are just having a mental block. Just always remember to not rush the club to the ball. This will allow your natural technique to stay consistent and take any "hit" out of the chip. Take your time while swinging, let the club get to the ball, don't get the club to the ball. Relax while chipping. Tell yourself that you are a good chipper, and you will improve. Kenny B, perseveringgolfer and cksurfdude 3 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, GB13 said: I'm going to take a simpler approach here. As a 6 handicap, you CAN chip, you are just having a mental block. Just always remember to not rush the club to the ball. This will allow your natural technique to stay consistent and take any "hit" out of the chip. Take your time while swinging, let the club get to the ball, don't get the club to the ball. Relax while chipping. Tell yourself that you are a good chipper, and you will improve. This is a good reference. Feel the weight of the club head in the swing and let it do the work. GB13 and perseveringgolfer 2 Quote Epic Flash SZ 9o w/ Ventus 6X Rogue 4wd w/ ATMOS Red 7X CBX 20o w/ ATMOS Blue 7S tipped 1" JPX 900 Tour 4i - PW (standard lofts) Rifle SM6 51o, 59o, SM7 55o 2019 ProV1x Custom Ming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, revkev said: Because it causes you to face the target - the little open thing. You become target. I don't face the target on a full shot; the chip/pitch shot is just a smaller version of the full shot. I work on my full shot, but when I get up to the green, I'm supposed to set up left but not swing left? For me that introduces error in my swing. The ball will go left. I had been doing that for 10 years as that was what my swing coach said to do. Not sure why it took me so long to change, other than I wanted to do it like most golfers do. I guess some of us are ab normal. Do what works. cksurfdude and cnosil 1 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteddyGolf Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Best chipping tip I can offer is to stay connected with your club by letting your body lead the take away rather than your hands. If you maintain an imaginary connection between the butt of your club and your sternum your body will stay connected with your club. This movement is very much like your putter stroke. The result is consistent downward contact with the ball, balance and tempo. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy cksurfdude and perseveringgolfer 2 Quote Miura MB 502 Irons ping G400 Driver Cobra F7 3 wood Mizuno putter Mizuno Wedges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Kenny B said: some of us are ab normal "You brought me an abnormal brain?!?!” Kenny B and palvord 1 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 14 hours ago, Shankster said: I’ll post the video again. But you can absolutely not go wrong with learning from one of the best short game players of all time. Shanks - that Seve vid is pure gold!!! Thx! Shankster 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 That second Shawn Clement vid reminded me of an excellent tip I received in one of my early short game lessons..... Hold a golf ball in your trail hand, palm up, and gently toss the ball underhanded onto a spot on the green. Pick up a club and do the EXACT SAME motion. Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Shanks - that Seve vid is pure gold!!! Thx!No problem. There’s a longer version on YouTube as well. He goes over the basics, pitching, chipping, bunker, pitch and run, floaters, putting.Genius. I watch it once a week. cksurfdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmrfgomes Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 12:52 PM, JudgeSmails said: Get on Phil Mickelsons instagram....he has been posting short game tips every week. I'd certainly take his word over mine I started following Phil's tips and i´m getting a great ball contact, that alone improved my approach shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Some simple but effective techniques in here... perseveringgolfer and cksurfdude 2 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 10 hours ago, cksurfdude said: "You brought me an abnormal brain?!?!” I KNEW someone would get it. I should have known it would be you!! cksurfdude 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaussman1 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Honestly I don't love the back foot ball position for most players. It creates a very steep attack angle that I think leads to a lot of chunks (or blades if you flip at it from back there).I prefer the ball further forward, so you have to chase after it a little bit. If I'm struggling to find the bottom of the arc I'll practice for a few minutes standing on my left foot only w the right off the ground. That helps me center and keep the proper loft on the club. Sent from my Pixel 3 using MyGolfSpy mobile app cksurfdude and perseveringgolfer 2 Quote Rogue SZ 10.5 *NEW* Fujikura Pro Green 65 X Rogue 15 degree Evnflow Blue 6.5 Back in the Bag Z765 4-G Nippon Modus 120 Stiff 54 and 60 Amazing Grace Ass Kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, Kenny B said: I KNEW someone would get it. I should have known it would be you!! I got it, just didn't comment. Kenny B and cksurfdude 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juspoole Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 This is an odd one but it came from Michael breed and is all about contact. It’s extremely simple but effective. Concentrate on the front part of the ball during your chip. I like to put the logo facing the target and just look at the logo. It’s so simple but it really works well and gives more consistent contactSent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver: Mavrik Sub Zero 9* (Set to 10) Ventus Blue 6X 2 Hybrid: TSI3 Hybrid Tensei Blue 80 X (17.25*) 3 Hybrid 818 H2 Hybrid Hzrdus RDX Black 6.5 (20.5*) 4 Iron - T200 4 Iron Graphite Design Tour AD IZ X Hybrid Shaft Irons 5-PW: T100-S 5 - GW KBS Tour 130 X Gap/Sand Wedge: Vokey SM6 49* SM8 54* Lob Wedge: Jaws 5 Wedge 58* DG Tour Issue Stiff Putter: Phantom 5.5 34" Pro Platinum Newport 2 35" Taylormade Tour Black Spider 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, juspoole said: This is an odd one but it came from Michael breed and is all about contact. It’s extremely simple but effective. Concentrate on the front part of the ball during your chip. I like to put the logo facing the target and just look at the logo. It’s so simple but it really works well and gives more consistent contact Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy As you cannot touch the ball until it's on the green this could prove difficult cnosil 1 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 1:15 AM, gaussman1 said: Honestly I don't love the back foot ball position for most players. It creates a very steep attack angle that I think leads to a lot of chunks (or blades if you flip at it from back there). I prefer the ball further forward, so you have to chase after it a little bit. If I'm struggling to find the bottom of the arc I'll practice for a few minutes standing on my left foot only w the right off the ground. That helps me center and keep the proper loft on the club. Sent from my Pixel 3 using MyGolfSpy mobile app I like this a lot as back foot thins and chunks are my game right now. I found concentrating on chest turn in the downswing helps enormously but can lead to quickening of the swing again leading to thins and chunks. I'll try some left foot only drills. Where do you position the ball and is your stance open and wide or small? Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 3/1/2019 at 8:15 PM, gaussman1 said: Honestly I don't love the back foot ball position for most players. It creates a very steep attack angle that I think leads to a lot of chunks (or blades if you flip at it from back there). This is an excellent point that I had never considered. I move the ball around in my stance a lot depending on how high or low I want the ball to go. At my skill level (or lack thereof), maybe I'm asking too much of myself hoping for a perfect strike every time. cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaussman1 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I like this a lot as back foot thins and chunks are my game right now. I found concentrating on chest turn in the downswing helps enormously but can lead to quickening of the swing again leading to thins and chunks. I'll try some left foot only drills. Where do you position the ball and is your stance open and wide or small?My stance is open and narrow with ball up. That seems to make it easier for me to hit sort of "turn-turn" chips and pitches. And I stand pretty tall instead of bending way over the ball. Even flops I play this way. These are from a practice session hitting about 5 yard softies last summer. Still photos aren't super useful but it does show how much turn I'm using on such a short shot. For me the key is softness in the hands and arms on both sides of the ball and turn turn.Sent from my Pixel 3 using MyGolfSpy mobile app perseveringgolfer and cksurfdude 2 Quote Rogue SZ 10.5 *NEW* Fujikura Pro Green 65 X Rogue 15 degree Evnflow Blue 6.5 Back in the Bag Z765 4-G Nippon Modus 120 Stiff 54 and 60 Amazing Grace Ass Kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 My stance is open and narrow with ball up. That seems to make it easier for me to hit sort of "turn-turn" chips and pitches. And I stand pretty tall instead of bending way over the ball. Even flops I play this way. These are from a practice session hitting about 5 yard softies last summer. Still photos aren't super useful but it does show how much turn I'm using on such a short shot. For me the key is softness in the hands and arms on both sides of the ball and turn turn.Sent from my Pixel 3 using MyGolfSpy mobile appPretty big swing for a chip, I consider that more of a pitch. I do agree with the turn aspect just do it with a shorter swing. I am also finding that not dropping my right shoulder is key as well. cksurfdude and Kenny B 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchat07 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Check out golfbettertucson on Instagram he is always posting great stuff that works.Sent from my SM-G950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, cnosil said: Pretty big swing for a chip, I consider that more of a pitch. I do agree with the turn aspect just do it with a shorter swing. I am also finding that not dropping my right shoulder is key as well. I agree. Definitely a pitch shot, but a nice one though. I think of a chip shot something less than a 9 o'clock backswing and a follow through without a release of the club. cksurfdude 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaussman1 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, cnosil said: Pretty big swing for a chip, I consider that more of a pitch. I do agree with the turn aspect just do it with a shorter swing. I am also finding that not dropping my right shoulder is key as well. These were 5-10 yard soft flops. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. As you can see clubface is wide open cksurfdude and Shankster 2 Quote Rogue SZ 10.5 *NEW* Fujikura Pro Green 65 X Rogue 15 degree Evnflow Blue 6.5 Back in the Bag Z765 4-G Nippon Modus 120 Stiff 54 and 60 Amazing Grace Ass Kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 These were 5-10 yard soft flops. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. As you can see clubface is wide openAs I like to call them. Flop chips. Good technique! gaussman1 and cksurfdude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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