JonMUSC08 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I am going out on a stretch with this one... When we all buy new golf clubs or are in the market for a new club (testing), we head over to our local shop (Dicks Sports, Edwin Watts, PGA Superstore, etc) and request to try the clubs out in the bay with the launch monitors. Of course, how well is the new club going to compare to our existing club. In my personal experience, the employees in the shops always seem annoyed when you ask to try out clubs in the bays; more so if you are a lefty such as myself. That means they have to move the launch monitor sensor to the other side of the mat . Those of us not on tour or living in the 1% wealth do not have the ability to own a Trackman or GC Quad BUT would still like to utilize those products to test equipment and learn to gap our clubs. Do these 8 new drivers really give me 20 more yards and are much more straight than my existing driver... who knows, but the golf shop guy does not want me spending 3 hours testing all his equipment. Yet he wonders why i do not buy anything after i try one driver and dont get results. Don't be annoyed with me if i ask to try a different driver. Here is the dream... A driving range with 2-4 bays rigged with launch monitors. Having top of the line monitors may be quite expensive but something to at least provide sufficient data to help the average or better golfer. By allowing players to learn their yardages and make adjustments will in essence speed up rounds as well. With the popularity of the technology AT the range, players would need to schedule times and pay fees for equipment use. The Arccos system is a great tool to help gap and determine club lengths BUT it takes quite a few rounds to determine all your clubs. Now i can hit 20 shots with each club and get solid data on EACH club. In addition, i can borrow or rent multiple clubs if i am in the market for a new driver, iron set, etc. IDEALLY having newly released equipment AT the range would be perfect. My Golf Spy Community, lets make this happen! Make this the new Top Golf or get me in touch with a Top Golf guy to integrate this! Charleston, SC HDCP 13.0 Driver: M6 9* with 65g Stiff Mitsubishi Tensei Red shaft 3 wood: G425 stiff shaft 5 wood: Stealth 2 stiff shaft 4-gw irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal w/ X-stiff KBS 130gr shafts (soft stepped) Wedges: MG3 52, 56, 60 Putter: 34" Scotty Cameron 12.5 Ball: ProV-1x Tracked By: MGS Tester '20 - G710 Iron Review MGS Tester '19 - Precision Pro NX9 HD Pro laser rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Already exists, trackman has a product that can be installed at driving ranges. https://trackmangolf.com/products/range Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedgie Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, cnosil said: Already exists, trackman has a product that can be installed at driving ranges. https://trackmangolf.com/products/range Yep, the range about 10 minutes from me has this. It's pretty cool but the balls are so bad it is hard to really learn anything meaningful from the numbers you get. But, if all the balls are bad you could still check your gapping I guess. Wedgie Driver - XXIO X Driver 9.5 - Launcher Turbo 2 hybrid - F9 One Length 3-L - ER 1.2 Top Flite Gamer Play Right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMUSC08 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, cnosil said: Already exists, trackman has a product that can be installed at driving ranges. https://trackmangolf.com/products/range WEll that was a short lived dream... Seems like it may have only come out late last year. Could be quite some time until it gets implemented anywhere. Or only in major cities Charleston, SC HDCP 13.0 Driver: M6 9* with 65g Stiff Mitsubishi Tensei Red shaft 3 wood: G425 stiff shaft 5 wood: Stealth 2 stiff shaft 4-gw irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal w/ X-stiff KBS 130gr shafts (soft stepped) Wedges: MG3 52, 56, 60 Putter: 34" Scotty Cameron 12.5 Ball: ProV-1x Tracked By: MGS Tester '20 - G710 Iron Review MGS Tester '19 - Precision Pro NX9 HD Pro laser rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 WEll that was a short lived dream... Seems like it may have only come out late last year. Could be quite some time until it gets implemented anywhere. Or only in major citiesBest bet is indoor simulators. Lots of places seem to be renting them out by the hour for practice. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 They need to make golf balls that make their own shot trail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 They need to make golf balls that make their own shot trail... Kinda like tracer bullets? Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Kinda like tracer bullets? Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpyYes only less destructive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juspoole Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 My local golf galaxy now has track man in 8 different hitting bays. Much easier to just move it over 2-3 feet and start hitting. I’ll go during my lunch hour during the week to see some numbers. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Mavrik Sub Zero 9* (Set to 10) Ventus Blue 6X 2 Hybrid: TSI3 Hybrid Tensei Blue 80 X (17.25*) 3 Hybrid 818 H2 Hybrid Hzrdus RDX Black 6.5 (20.5*) 4 Iron - T200 4 Iron Graphite Design Tour AD IZ X Hybrid Shaft Irons 5-PW: T100-S 5 - GW KBS Tour 130 X Gap/Sand Wedge: Vokey SM6 49* SM8 54* Lob Wedge: Jaws 5 Wedge 58* DG Tour Issue Stiff Putter: Phantom 5.5 34" Pro Platinum Newport 2 35" Taylormade Tour Black Spider 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMUSC08 Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 We have 1 Edwin Watts in the Charleston, SC area and they recently lot some of their rental space and now only operate with 2 hitting bays. Used to have 4. Dick's Sports is the ONLY other option... No Bueno Charleston, SC HDCP 13.0 Driver: M6 9* with 65g Stiff Mitsubishi Tensei Red shaft 3 wood: G425 stiff shaft 5 wood: Stealth 2 stiff shaft 4-gw irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal w/ X-stiff KBS 130gr shafts (soft stepped) Wedges: MG3 52, 56, 60 Putter: 34" Scotty Cameron 12.5 Ball: ProV-1x Tracked By: MGS Tester '20 - G710 Iron Review MGS Tester '19 - Precision Pro NX9 HD Pro laser rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I know LM's are all the rage and have been for quite a few years. I agree that they certainly are or can be useful. Not absolute. There are many factors involved with using a LM. IMO and as I've been told they have to be setup properly and calibrated in some way. You can't just open the box and plop one down on the floor and plug it in. I also don't advise buying clubs off indoor LM data alone. It's a good place to start and narrow your selection. But... again IMO you have to get outdoors with a game ball and see with your own eyes what's happening. There's many ways to measure your distance. Just take the club's you're interested in after testing them on a LM and go see for yourself outdoors which perform the best. It can be done. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardle Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 hours ago, juspoole said: My local golf galaxy now has track man in 8 different hitting bays. Much easier to just move it over 2-3 feet and start hitting. I’ll go during my lunch hour during the week to see some numbers. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I do this as well when its cold out, and the stores I go to don't mind if you bring in your own clubs to compare against. It gets busy when its rainy and cold but otherwise its great to get to hit some balls. RH: Driver: F9 9.0º - 14g Low - Evenflow White T1100 75G X Woods: F9 3W - Evenflow White T1100 75G X Hybrids: F9 3H - Aldila Green X Irons: F9 One Length 4-PW - Modus3 Tour 105 S Wedges: King Wedges 50º/54º/58º Versatile Putter: Sigma G Tyne 35" Ball: Srixon Z Star XV #cobraconnect19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 My local golf galaxy now has track man in 8 different hitting bays. Much easier to just move it over 2-3 feet and start hitting. I’ll go during my lunch hour during the week to see some numbers. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyI thought the trackman was best suited for outdoor use, because it uses barometric pressure to accurately calculate some of the numbers/stats? I think I've heard that GC-Quad is best for indoor use.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy In my BR-D4 6-way King F9 set to 9*, Tour length Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 S-flex, with GolfPride MCC +4 mid-size 3W - 13*, UST Mamiya 65 Gold S-flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G SIM UDI 2-iron - 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana Thump 100 X-flex, with GolfPride MCC Align ZX5 4-5 & ZX7 6-PW, Modus3 120 Tour S-flex, +1/2", with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G - SM8 Tour Chrome, 50.08F - 54.10S - 58.12D, DG Wedge Flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G Custom Fit 35" ER6 Red at 68 degree lie angle and 4 degrees of loft MTB-X NX7 Pro Slope Tracked by #WPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 On 3/1/2019 at 12:18 PM, JonMUSC08 said: WEll that was a short lived dream... Seems like it may have only come out late last year. Could be quite some time until it gets implemented anywhere. Or only in major cities Carl's Golfland in Michigan was the first to launch with this technology I believe. It's only a 12-hour drive from me. Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, M. Parsons said: I thought the trackman was best suited for outdoor use, because it uses barometric pressure to accurately calculate some of the numbers/stats? I think I've heard that GC-Quad is best for indoor use. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Depends on how you look at it. For starters, Track Man still has to be calibrated properly if you're going to factor in all those variables, but you can also turn all those settings off and use "normalized" conditions. Secondly, GC2 w/ HMT & GCQuad are camera based monitors that measure what the club and ball are actually doing within a specified range which provides highly accurate data. Not sure if GCQuad does anything to measure barometric pressure or any other variables like that, but IMO normalized conditions are a better way to test with an LM because you take wind out of it. Some days it might not matter so much, but the ball will fly differently depending on where the wind is coming from and how fast it's blowing. Even after testing with an LM, it's always wise to test without - on the course if at all possible - and pay attention to what you actually see the ball doing. You should also test hitting different shots to see what club is going to be the most playable for you. Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMUSC08 Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 Right, something measuring your spin rates and angles will give you IDEAL condition results. These could be better or worse depending on your location and conditions. On the course, if you are in a higher altitude than the ball will go further than the LM suggests because the air is thinner. Humidity and temperature play a factor. Launch monitors are great for comparison testing since no other factors affect the readings. Charleston, SC HDCP 13.0 Driver: M6 9* with 65g Stiff Mitsubishi Tensei Red shaft 3 wood: G425 stiff shaft 5 wood: Stealth 2 stiff shaft 4-gw irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal w/ X-stiff KBS 130gr shafts (soft stepped) Wedges: MG3 52, 56, 60 Putter: 34" Scotty Cameron 12.5 Ball: ProV-1x Tracked By: MGS Tester '20 - G710 Iron Review MGS Tester '19 - Precision Pro NX9 HD Pro laser rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palvord Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 3/7/2019 at 11:53 AM, TR1PTIK said: Carl's Golfland in Michigan was the first to launch with this technology I believe. It's only a 12-hour drive from me. Carl's is quite fun because of this technology. You can take your bag of clubs and work on your game with the feedback from Trackman, or go into the store and find something to take outside and compare. If anyone is in the Metro-Detroit area, I highly recommend getting over there to try it out. In my Ultralight Stand Bag: Driver: Rogue 10.5° - LH - Project X EvenFlow 60 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue TS 7 Stiff King F9 - LH - 5/6 Wood - Atmos Blue TS 7 Stiff Irons: King F9 - LH - 5-GW - KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° - KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 Stiff Putter: - Impact No. 3 Ball: Maxfli TourX Rangefinder: LX5 Watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, palvord said: Carl's is quite fun because of this technology. You can take your bag of clubs and work on your game with the feedback from Trackman, or go into the store and find something to take outside and compare. If anyone is in the Metro-Detroit area, I highly recommend getting over there to try it out. Not a short trip for me, but next time on that side of the state I'd love to stop in there. Went to Miles of Golf in Ann Arbor a few weeks ago. What a setup for heated ranges. We have nothing like that over here. Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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