GolfSpy Barbajo Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 These showed up yesterday - the VT’s are a hollow-distance iron, it unlike the Ping G700, with maybe more of a players look. There’s still snow on the ground but may head to the heated range over in Hampton to see what they can do. Swung them a few times at Demo Day but really didn’t get a feel for them. KBS Tour V shafts installed, which is a lighter weight shaft with a stiff tip for lower spin. The shafts are 110 Grams, which might be a good option as the sweet bird of youth continues to crash and burn. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Shankster, bardle, chemclub and 6 others 9 Quote What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said: These showed up yesterday - the VT’s are a hollow-distance iron, it unlike the Ping G700, with maybe more of a players look. There’s still snow on the ground but may head to the heated range over in Hampton to see what they can do. Swung them a few times st DemonDay but really didn’t get a feel for them. KBS Tour V shafts installed, which is a lighter weight shaft with a stiff tip for lower spin. The stuffs are 110 GramsC which might be a good option as the sweet bird of youth continues to crash and burn. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I was looking at these online yesterday and must say, I'm intrigued.... did you hit any other Lynx irons at the demo day? GolfSpy Barbajo 1 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said: These showed up yesterday - the VT’s are a hollow-distance iron, it unlike the Ping G700, with maybe more of a players look. There’s still snow on the ground but may head to the heated range over in Hampton to see what they can do. Swung them a few times st DemonDay but really didn’t get a feel for them. KBS Tour V shafts installed, which is a lighter weight shaft with a stiff tip for lower spin. The stuffs are 110 GramsC which might be a good option as the sweet bird of youth continues to crash and burn. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Those look nice, can't wait to hear how they hit / feel. Quote In my BR-D4 6-way King F9 set to 9*, Tour length Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 S-flex, with GolfPride MCC +4 mid-size 3W - 13*, UST Mamiya 65 Gold S-flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G SIM UDI 2-iron - 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana Thump 100 X-flex, with GolfPride MCC Align ZX5 4-5 & ZX7 6-PW, Modus3 120 Tour S-flex, +1/2", with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G - SM8 Tour Chrome, 50.08F - 54.10S - 58.12D, DG Wedge Flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G Custom Fit 35" ER6 Red at 68 degree lie angle and 4 degrees of loft MTB-X NX7 Pro Slope Tracked by #WPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardle Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said: Swung them a few times at DemonDay but really didn’t get a feel for them. I'm not sure what this entails but it sounds terrifying, at least you got to swing some new clubs while doing it. JohnSmalls, GolfSpy Barbajo, sirchunksalot and 2 others 3 2 Quote RH: Driver: F9 9.0º - 14g Low - Evenflow White T1100 75G X Woods: F9 3W - Evenflow White T1100 75G X Hybrids: F9 3H - Aldila Green X Irons: F9 One Length 4-PW - Modus3 Tour 105 S Wedges: King Wedges 50º/54º/58º Versatile Putter: Sigma G Tyne 35" Ball: Srixon Z Star XV #cobraconnect19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaid Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Wow Barbajo. Those look even better than the pictures we saw last spring. Glad to see you got them for an in-Hand review. They really caught my eye last year. Good luck with them!Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote WITB: Stan Thompson “Reactionizer” persimmon woods 1-4 Spalding Tour Edition 3-PW Spalding Top-Flite E.V.A. Sand Club Rife Legend Z Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, GolfSpy Stroker said: I was looking at these online yesterday and must say, I'm intrigued.... did you hit any other Lynx irons at the demo day? Hit the new Black Cat irons as well -- hollow-body with a polymer fill. Those were maybe the eye-opener of the show - one of the few sticks I've hit in the last year where I stopped and went "whoa." If I were a betting man, I'd bet a lot of my money and all of yours the general reception on their appearance will be lukewarm to hostile, but seriously great feeling and easy to hit iron. The black PVD may be problematic, but I'm anxious to see what those do out in the real world, too.... romeopapazulu, StrokerAce and MaxEntropy 3 Quote What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 Here are a couple of pix from Demo Day of the Black Cat irons...as you can see, they're also available in a chrome finish, which will most likely be lots more durable than the black PVD... And from the show floor... Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy StrokerAce 1 Quote What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 ...interesting color scheme.... I certainly agree with your take on the appearance! too bad they used PVD instead of DBM... can already see it starting to fade. Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaid Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Yeah the black finish looks like it’s not going to hold up too well.The color scheme is interesting. I think the club shape and design looks pretty good. I think they just missed the mark with that green accent. If Ping or TM did it it would be fine. But I think that a brand that is perceived as lower tier than the big boys, whether warranted or not, should not go with colors that could cheapen the look.If that green was red, or maybe gold, it would look a bit more high end. Still, good looking clubs.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk StrokerAce 1 Quote WITB: Stan Thompson “Reactionizer” persimmon woods 1-4 Spalding Tour Edition 3-PW Spalding Top-Flite E.V.A. Sand Club Rife Legend Z Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemclub Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Wow! Those VTs look fantastic. You usually see some kind of port on hollow irons that is filled with a plug or a screw of some kind. I don't see that on these. Different way of manufacturing? I always assumed they just welded a face onto the iron body and the little port was for... cleaning things up on the inside? Quote Bag: Bennington Quiet Organizer 9-Lite (link) Cart: 3.5+ Driver: F9 speedback, Accra iWood Woods: Sonartec GS Tour 14*, Fujikura Six S DI: T-MB 2 iron, KBS Tour-V 120 X, Irons: PP-9003SN 4-GW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff Wedges: 1957 K-grind SW, LW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff Putter: EXO Indianapolis (link) Ball: MTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 If the color scheme and badging weren't so bad, I don't think they are too bad on the eyes. romeopapazulu 1 Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romeopapazulu Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 If the color scheme and badging weren't so bad, I don't think they are too bad on the eyes.I agree. If they weren't so dang ugly, they'd be way better looking. If those are reflective, you could stick them in the ground along the driveway so you know where to plow. Sent from my SM-A600A using MyGolfSpy mobile app MaxEntropy and silver & black 1 1 Quote G400 LST 8.5 Ping Tour 65 Stiff Adams XTD Ti 18 deg 3Hy Ben Hogan PTx 22-46 Ben Hogan TK15 50, 54, 58 deg wedges Futura 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 Interesting question for everyone - so they’re not the best looking girl at the dance, but what if you tried them and hit the ever-loving snot out of them. Would they start looking better?Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy MaxEntropy and StrokerAce 2 Quote What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertson153 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Interesting question for everyone - so they’re not the best looking girl at the dance, but what if you tried them and hit the ever-loving snot out of them. Would they start looking better?Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyI wouldn’t care if they were hot pink with polka dots. If they went straight and far, I’d swing em. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy StrokerAce 1 Quote CobraConnectChallenge3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said: Interesting question for everyone - so they’re not the best looking girl at the dance, but what if you tried them and hit the ever-loving snot out of them. Would they start looking better? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I agree with @robertson153... I play to score well, no matter what the tools look like. These aren't THAT bad and I would gladly laugh all the way to the bank with everyone else's money in my pocket after they smirked at my bag! GolfSpy Barbajo and robertson153 2 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedgie Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Interesting question for everyone - so they’re not the best looking girl at the dance, but what if you tried them and hit the ever-loving snot out of them. Would they start looking better?Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyI play the Launcher HB irons....do I really need to answer this?Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy GolfSpy Barbajo, Reesedw, Rtracymog and 1 other 2 2 Quote Wedgie Driver - XXIO X Driver 9.5 - Launcher Turbo 2 hybrid - F9 One Length 3-L - ER 1.2 Top Flite Gamer Play Right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0808 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 The Black Cats, if they work, they work. Play them! The VT look absolutely stunning. If they are easier to hit and get up with the hollow body, and those looks... Wow! They are such a clean look and I love the no paintfill. A real 180 compared to the Black Cat Quote In my bag: Driver: Rogue ST Triple Diamond LS 10.5* (set to 9.5) UST Lin-Q Gunmetal 6f5 Wood: Tsi2 15* Project X RDX Black 70 6.5 Hybrids: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX Irons: Cobra King Tour MIM 4-PW Dynamic Gold 120 X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 3 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400 Putter: Nashville Z1C 34" Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 hours ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said: Interesting question for everyone - so they’re not the best looking girl at the dance, but what if you tried them and hit the ever-loving snot out of them. Would they start looking better? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I think I could get past the looks. You can't see the badge at address. Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romeopapazulu Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I agree with [mention=71790]robertson153[/mention]... I play to score well, no matter what the tools look like. These aren't THAT bad and I would gladly laugh all the way to the bank with everyone else's money in my pocket after they smirked at my bag!For a bit...but then your handicap would adjust to your improved play and you wouldn't be winning that money anymore. You would just be left with those ugly clubs. I certainly can't claim to have had the sexiest bag in the past (or ever), but these tip the scale to the too ugly side for me. If I was really smashing these things, I would take that shaft and try it in every other club head possible. Those blades though...Sent from my SM-A600A using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote G400 LST 8.5 Ping Tour 65 Stiff Adams XTD Ti 18 deg 3Hy Ben Hogan PTx 22-46 Ben Hogan TK15 50, 54, 58 deg wedges Futura 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Personally, I feel like the heads need some paint fill, but that may not be a popular opinion. Nice looking clubs overall, though. Most interested in the Tour V shafts. Like my Tour 90s, but wish I could get a little lower launch. GolfSpy Barbajo 1 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 First range session with the Prowler VT irons - I could definitely see these in the bag this year. Admittedly plenty of winter time rust, but despite their blade-ishness, the VT's are pretty easy to launch and, if you're able, to hit high or low on demand (I pulled it off about 70% of the time -- or maybe 65). I can't fade or draw on demand reliably - so "working" the ball remains a theoretical part of my game, but nearly all my well struck shots were a nice, tightly little draw. The long irons (set is 4-PW) were easy to launch high or low, and seemed to have some nice distance to them (it's winter, Sagamore Golf Center has seriously beat up range balls) - at least impact felt good, like the ball would be going somewhere if it was spring or summer and balls weren't cold. The VT's are a hollow-body iron - the face is forged and the head is hollow cast. The knock on clubs like this is a harsh sound/feel (Ping G700, for example), but with the cold and the crappy range balls it's really hard to tell, other than for today anyway the sound and feel was well within what you'd consider acceptable. I kind of like the KBS Tour V shaft, too -- for today anyway. Lower flight and lower spin than the KBS Tour - and a little lighter than the C Taper. Seemed to work well for today on the range in the winter in New Hampshire hitting crappy range balls off a well worn mat. Undershooter, bens197, GolfSpy_APH and 3 others 6 Quote What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 ...can't get over how nice and sleek these look. Classic with excellent lines! Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Those do look mighty good. Very MP-33 ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Now those VT’s are just about the sweetest irons I have ever seen.Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaid Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 [mention=68812]Golfspy[/mention] Barbajo Where did you buy your VT’s? Did you order direct from their website or are they starting to be stocked by other retailers both online and brick and mortar? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote WITB: Stan Thompson “Reactionizer” persimmon woods 1-4 Spalding Tour Edition 3-PW Spalding Top-Flite E.V.A. Sand Club Rife Legend Z Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtracymog Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I kind of like the KBS Tour V shaft, too -- for today anyway. Lower flight and lower spin than the KBS Tour - and a little lighter than the C Taper. Seemed to work well for today on the range in the winter in New Hampshire hitting crappy range balls off a well worn mat. I’m surprised that they were lower launching than the KBS Tour. Typically those Tour-Vs launch pretty easy but keeping the low spin.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Cortex w/MGS Motore X F1 7X tipped 1" F5 17 degree hybrid w/Rogue Black 85X C300 Forged 3-5 w/C-Taper 130X FG Tour V6 5-6 w/C-Taper 130X Staff Model Blade 7-PW w/C-Taper 130X RTX4 52, 56, 60 w/S400 Tour Issue ER7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Do the VT’s have a foam/poly fill? the black cats in satin look remarkably similar the the sub70 699’s... Quote TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 17 hours ago, Sluggo42 said: Do the VT’s have a foam/poly fill? the black cats in satin look remarkably similar the the sub70 699’s... VT's are hollow body construction - no fill. The Black Cat has a polymer fill - and does resemble the Sub70, as well as the PING G700, which is hollow but similar in appearance, and the TaylorMade P790, which has the much-ballyhooed Speed Foam, and the PXG whatever it is, which led to a series of lawsuits between TM and PXG. Can't speak for Jason and Sub70 (met him once - he's a really good guy), but Lynx contracts with a gent named Kevin Woolgar to handle its club design. Kevin spends most of his time in China working with foundries over there. Some of Lynx's stuff is open model, some of it Kevin co-designs with China's R&D people - mostly adapting/improving/altering their in-house designs. From what they've told me, the VT is a patented model for Lynx (sure, it looks like others, but it's a golf club - it's gonna look like a golf club), and the new Switch Face driver is also a Lynx patent. Not sure if the Black Cat is an open model or if it's based on an open model with some Kevin-specific alteration. Based on some of the pricing I've seen bandied about (don't believe they've finalized it yet), I'd lean towards the former. Which begs the question - if an open model performs well, has the shaft you want and is priced right, does it matter if it's an open model or not? Would you buy it and feel confident in it? That's a question that might lead to another thread... Quote What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 What’s an “open model”? Quote TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 What’s an “open model”?Open model,open mold - means the design is open to anyone who wants it. Chinese manufacturers have designs that are either o longer covered by patents or that are of their own design and shared - basically anyone can sell it, or modify it in conjunction with their own people, and sell it. Basically, you and I can go into the club business tomorrow and sell open models with our name and logo. Small companies like Lynx and - I presume Sub70 - will make use of open models to fill out their line rather than investing $30k in developing their own mold for a particular club they don’t think they’ll sell a ton of. The challenge is with the way manufacturing is over there, a mold one company think is theirs may wind up being an open model at a completely different factory. We had a blog on it last year - I’ll dig out the link for you Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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