wipierce Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 10 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: That’s what makes golf unique is that the rules at the pro level and the amateur level. Quite true. tony@CIC 1 Quote Driver: i20 8.5*, Project X Blue, stiff Fairway Woods: r9 3W 15*, r9 5W 19* Fujikura Motore 70 stiff Irons: i210's 4-UW Wedges: Glide 2.0 55* MD3 Milled S Grind 60* Putter: B60i Isopur Link to comment
aburtonky Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 In the spirit of our next major, let's see how y'all respond to this. My favorite major is the PGA Championship. It's sentimental to me as I'm from Louisville and Valhalla would host it every so often. Going to practice rounds at the 2000 PGA Championship was my first taste of pro golf. I love the quirky/non-traditional courses. I love the huge field that can give us random winners a la "Dude Wipes" Dufner. I love that it also gives us winners like Tiger, Brooks, Rory, etc. (For those that try the argument about how "random" golfers win it too much. And frankly, I love that it pisses people off. I'm just glad it's going to Bethpage Black this year. Pretty excited to try and buy the MGS bag tag and ball marker again as well. Btw, my favorite majors in order are PGA, Masters, The Open, and a far flung last finish place, the US Open. silver & black and palvord 2 Quote Driver: 0811XF Gen 2. 9 degrees 5 Wood: F8 5/6. Set to 17 degrees Irons: 0211 XCOR2 5-W 7 Wood: 0211 Wedges: SM9 48º, 54º, 58º Ball: Tour X Putter: Impact No. 3 Bag: Convoy SE Grips: Tour Velvet, Winn (Wedges) Technology: I have a membership at my local PGA TOUR Superstore. I go there to use their Trackman to monitor my distance gaps, spin rates, etc. On the course I've been using TheGrint app. Link to comment
GB13 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, aburtonky said: In the spirit of our next major, let's see how y'all respond to this. My favorite major is the PGA Championship. It's sentimental to me as I'm from Louisville and Valhalla would host it every so often. Going to practice rounds at the 2000 PGA Championship was my first taste of pro golf. I love the quirky/non-traditional courses. I love the huge field that can give us random winners a la "Dude Wipes" Dufner. I love that it also gives us winners like Tiger, Brooks, Rory, etc. (For those that try the argument about how "random" golfers win it too much. And frankly, I love that it pisses people off. I'm just glad it's going to Bethpage Black this year. Pretty excited to try and buy the MGS bag tag and ball marker again as well. Btw, my favorite majors in order are PGA, Masters, The Open, and a far flung last finish place, the US Open. Also, it's the toughest tournament to win all year. aburtonky and tony@CIC 2 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment
Sjdowne Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 The most important shot in golf is the tee shot, not the short game. Everything you do on a hole is determined by that first shot. If you spend 2 shots making up for a bad drive your chances at par are cut by 90+%. Hit a good tee shot, a reasonable second, and you have the ability to 2 putt or get up and down for par. If you're threading a shot between trees or are in a deep fairway bunker, your chance at a good hole is seriously impaired. silver & black 1 Quote Link to comment
Sjdowne Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 The US Open should not be played on ANY course constructed in the past 30 years. NONE....No Chambers Bay, No Erin Hills. They have to demonstrate the ability to stand the test of time, develop some nuance. silver & black, JohnSmalls and tony@CIC 3 Quote Link to comment
tony@CIC Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sjdowne said: The most important shot in golf is the tee shot, not the short game. Everything you do on a hole is determined by that first shot. If you spend 2 shots making up for a bad drive your chances at par are cut by 90+%. Hit a good tee shot, a reasonable second, and you have the ability to 2 putt or get up and down for par. If you're threading a shot between trees or are in a deep fairway bunker, your chance at a good hole is seriously impaired. I'd agree. I'd also add that at least for me the tee shots sets me up mentally for the rest of the hole. Hit a good tee shot and I'm feeling good. Hit a lousy tee shot and I'm ticked at myself and also thinking how am I going to get out of this mess. silver & black and Sjdowne 2 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment
Sjdowne Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I would agree for US Majors. I'm an Open Championship guy. Completely different style of golf that we don't see in the US. Quote Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, Sjdowne said: The most important shot in golf is the tee shot, not the short game. Everything you do on a hole is determined by that first shot. If you spend 2 shots making up for a bad drive your chances at par are cut by 90+%. Hit a good tee shot, a reasonable second, and you have the ability to 2 putt or get up and down for par. If you're threading a shot between trees or are in a deep fairway bunker, your chance at a good hole is seriously impaired. I’ll disagree. The second shot can have as much determination on the score as the first. A good/great tee shot doesn’t guarantee a good score. A bad shot with a good recovery shot can lead to a birdie or par as much as a good drive. Being in the fairway and missing a gir reduces the chance at birdie JohnSmalls 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
Sjdowne Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, RickyBobby_PR said: I’ll disagree. The second shot can have as much determination on the score as the first. A good/great tee shot doesn’t guarantee a good score. A bad shot with a good recovery shot can lead to a birdie or par as much as a good drive. Being in the fairway and missing a gir reduces the chance at birdie But a bad tee shot has a significant impact on your ability to hit a GIR. I would never argue an approach isnt important, but the determining factor of how you play a hole, what options are available to you, and the percentage chance of hitting a GIR is determined by your tee shot. Quote Link to comment
MaxEntropy Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, Sjdowne said: The most important shot in golf is the tee shot, not the short game. Everything you do on a hole is determined by that first shot. If you spend 2 shots making up for a bad drive your chances at par are cut by 90+%. Hit a good tee shot, a reasonable second, and you have the ability to 2 putt or get up and down for par. If you're threading a shot between trees or are in a deep fairway bunker, your chance at a good hole is seriously impaired. I agree with this, in my case. When I suck off the tee I'll be worse than bogey golf, when I'm decent off the tee I can shoot about 0.5 strokes over per hole and short game becomes the limiting factor. Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, Sjdowne said: But a bad tee shot has a significant impact on your ability to hit a GIR. I would never argue an approach isnt important, but the determining factor of how you play a hole, what options are available to you, and the percentage chance of hitting a GIR is determined by your tee shot. The goal is to make par at a minimum. Anything less is gravy. I don’t disagree that a good tee shot puts one in a good position to score but it doesn’t guarantee it. The ability to recover after a bad shot regardless of off the tee or on approach can make or break a hole as well as a round. Sjdowne 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
cnosil Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 But a bad tee shot has a significant impact on your ability to hit a GIR. I would never argue an approach isnt important, but the determining factor of how you play a hole, what options are available to you, and the percentage chance of hitting a GIR is determined by your tee shot. The most important shot in golf is the one you are about to hit. A bad tee shot reduces your chances just like a bad second shot or a bad chip or a bad putt. When you hit a bad tee shot the next shot needs to maximize your chances of getting up and down. Hitting a second bad shot is what you need to avoid. Bogeys happen, but trying to hit shots beyond your ability is why we end up with big number results. RickyBobby_PR, CarlH, JohnSmalls and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
Sjdowne Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: The goal is to make par at a minimum. Anything less is gravy. I don’t disagree that a good tee shot puts one in a good position to score but it doesn’t guarantee it. The ability to recover after a bad shot regardless of off the tee or on approach can make or break a hole as well as a round. Just now, cnosil said: The most important shot in golf is the one you are about to hit. A bad tee shot reduces your chances just like a bad second shot or a bad chip or a bad putt. When you hit a bad tee shot the next shot needs to maximize your chances of getting up and down. Hitting a second bad shot is what you need to avoid. Bogeys happen, but trying to hit shots beyond your ability is why we end up with big number results. I agree with you both. But how you are forced to play a hole, and your opportunities at scoring are all determined by that initial shot. One of my proudest holes ever was one I went OB off the tee on a 450yard uphill par 4, had to go back and re-tee, and made 3 great shots for a bogey. All shots are of import, but which one determines how the rest are forced to be played. Quote Link to comment
TwoCoatsOfWax Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 What you guys are saying is Every Shot Counts. That must be why Mark Broadie titled his book that way. I happen to be in the middle of reading that. Interesting stuff. The cliff notes version seems to be you gain/lose a little on every shot. In fact he flat out says that at one point IIRC. CarlH and silver & black 2 Quote Link to comment
mr.hicksta Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I humbly retract my 'No Laying Up is played out' opinion. I listened to the podcast with Max Homa and it was excellent! Quote LTDx Black 10.5º | UST LIN-Q M40X TSPX Blue 6F4 LTDx 3W 15º | UST LIN-Q M40X TSPX Blue 7F4 G425 3H 19º | UST Recoil Proto Hybrid 85F4 Z785 4-PW | UST Recoil 125 Proto F4 RTX ZipCore Tour Rack 50º Mid, 54º Mid, 60º Mid | UST Recoil Wedge Proto F4 ER5BV | BGT Stability Tour Tour B X Link to comment
THEZIPR23 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Sjdowne said: The most important shot in golf is the tee shot, not the short game. Everything you do on a hole is determined by that first shot. If you spend 2 shots making up for a bad drive your chances at par are cut by 90+%. Hit a good tee shot, a reasonable second, and you have the ability to 2 putt or get up and down for par. If you're threading a shot between trees or are in a deep fairway bunker, your chance at a good hole is seriously impaired. A tee shot in the trees that requires you to punch out to get in position counts the same as chunking a chip or missing a 3 footer. Yes a good tee shot may set you up mentally for a good hole but every shot counts the same on the scorecard. Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment
Chanchorp13 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I don't care how long it takes a professional to play their round. In fact, I want it to be longer sometimes. There are plenty of golfers on the course for the coverage to switch between. Unless i get yelled at by the general (girlfriend) for "wasting" my day watching a full round, those are the best hours of my life (unless i could be playing).... But i do get that amateurs imitate what they see, and hate the egregious slow play on local courses. tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment
DiscipleofPenick Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 So in short, don't hit bad shots Take Dead Aim Kenny B and cnosil 2 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment
CarlH Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Stop searching for the best club (or ball) to fix your swing fault. Fix the swing fault first. CFrazier, tony@CIC and MaxEntropy 3 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment
bens197 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Am I the only one on this planet who thinks that these Barstool clowns playing major courses prior to the events is a circus?Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy DannyDips 1 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment
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