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Thanks for all the thoughts in this thread! I had gotten away from some of the fundamentals and focused on some of these thoughts yesterday (ball back in stance, shaft forward, weight more forward) and had one of my best chipping days in a long, long time. I holed out a chip for par and was close enough on a lot of others that I ended up with 12 putts over 9 holes.

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Thanks for all the thoughts in this thread! I had gotten away from some of the fundamentals and focused on some of these thoughts yesterday (ball back in stance, shaft forward, weight more forward) an

I’ve been working on this tirelessly for several years, I’d call my self a good chipper.   But I started to chip good after I watched the Seve video. I know I will wear that YouTube link out. But it

@Shankster I owe you (and Seve) a beer. You've told me and shown me the Seve video before and I watched it but didnt interpret it correctly. Your explanation a few posts above made it crystal cle

I really wanted to get better with my short game and ended up buying a book called "Your short game Solution" it was written by James Sieckmann. I would highly suggest that book. It takes some commitment but in my opinion it is a tour level routine. I never made a book/journal like it suggest but I did go out while I was hitting it really well and made myself a yardage book and noted my carry distances for 1/4 swings, 1/2 swings and 3/4 swings with LW, SW, GW, PW and 9-iron. Now I have that book to fall back on when I haven't practiced in a while. If I'm playing regularly I hit more off feel. If i'm not confident in a shot I default to my "known" yardages. 

That book has made a phenomenal difference for me. The techniques and swing thoughts are great. 

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On 4/3/2019 at 9:49 PM, Stephen1125 said:

I really wanted to get better with my short game and ended up buying a book called "Your short game Solution" it was written by James Sieckmann.

Good suggestion - great book. Or so I've also heard from others - I have a copy, but ... quite stupidly have not yet gone through it... Now I will!!

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On 3/30/2019 at 5:40 PM, perseveringgolfer said:

Right, I'm cured!

The Faldo method was perfect. Upper arms into body and rotate. Worked for 54* to 8 iron, got up and down 7 times today.

No thins or fats.

Thanks @Shankster ....yet again👏

Thought I would update on todays game and gameplay.

My Long game is now at a very good consistent level. Confident over drives and fairway woods, very confident over irons up to an 8 iron.

Pitching- appalling 🙄

chipping- shocking....again😮🙄

Drive and a 4 iron greenside on a 513yd par 5 (breeze with us).......then a chunk, a thin over the side, poor chip on to 15 feet, 2 putts. A SEVEN after 2 outstanding long shots.

Drive and a 4 wood to 60yds on a 549yd par 5 (breeze against us)....pitch missed the green, chip thinned to the back, 2 putts. A 6 after 2 great long shots.

It must be in my head. If I could pitch and chip I'd be dangerous.

Think I'll video it and see if it's obvious why I'm cr@p.

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Thought I would update on todays game and gameplay.
My Long game is now at a very good consistent level. Confident over drives and fairway woods, very confident over irons up to an 8 iron.
Pitching- appalling 
chipping- shocking....again
Drive and a 4 iron greenside on a 513yd par 5 (breeze with us).......then a chunk, a thin over the side, poor chip on to 15 feet, 2 putts. A SEVEN after 2 outstanding long shots.
Drive and a 4 wood to 60yds on a 549yd par 5 (breeze against us)....pitch missed the green, chip thinned to the back, 2 putts. A 6 after 2 great long shots.
It must be in my head. If I could pitch and chip I'd be dangerous.
Think I'll video it and see if it's obvious why I'm cr@p.


I am in the same boat as you, very frustrating when your short game isn’t working. Mine is getting better but still have bad spells. Yesterday I missed a green by about 15 yards, 2 chunks and a decent chip later i walk away with a triple. Other holes my pitch/chip shots were on point.

Just have to keep working and hope you move forward.
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Rule 1.  Bring clubs with you so you have options.   You don't want to get up there with your wedge and then realize a lower shot would be better suited.  

Rule 2.  Limit your options to 2 or maybe 3 clubs.  Nothing hurts chipping more than indecision.  Once you commit to the kind of shot you want to hit, pick that 1 club.  

For Lower chips:   I personally don't go for anything lower than a PW for running shots, but generally use a sandwedge for most bump and runs, played further back in my stance.  Typically lean forward with the weight on my front foot, set my hands with a bit of a forward press, then lock them in place.  Let the shoulders and arms do all the work and hit the ball on shallow decending blow. club typically square or slightly closed.

For High Chips:  Typically use SW for shots that need to carry 40-60% of the distance, and LW for shots that need to carry more than 60%.  again, weight on front foot, but ball more in center or front of stance,  focuse on hitting the ball at the bottom of the swing and not on the way back up. typically open up the club 5-10 degrees, andkeep the wrists locked so that the arms and shoulders are doing the work.

One of the biggest issues I see is people that scoop the ball/rotate their wrists.  One thing that helped me out tremendously, especially when under pressure, was having jumbo grips as they take the wrists out of the swing.  I experimented with 1 wedge, and eventually got the jumbo grips on all my clubs.

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If you haven't had a chance yet, get on Phil's Instagram and watch his videos. I was pretty solid around the greens, but since watching his videos I can say that I have probably improved my chances of getting up and down 10% which 1 more out of ten missed greens is huge. His advice is so simple and very fundamental based. 

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Read "your short game solution" by James sieckmann. Clearly breaks up techniques, troubleshooting, and Drills. Provides practice plans and games. 

Distance mapping and practice plans are two of the biggest benefits. Spend a few weeks or months doing short game practice instead of hitting a bucket off mats at the range. You need to define some 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 swing yardage with all wedges and get reps in to be confident and learn the rollout of all those shots with each Wedge. 

 

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On 4/17/2019 at 11:32 AM, jayjay0808 said:

If you haven't had a chance yet, get on Phil's Instagram and watch his videos. I was pretty solid around the greens, but since watching his videos I can say that I have probably improved my chances of getting up and down 10% which 1 more out of ten missed greens is huge. His advice is so simple and very fundamental based. 

Phil is charismatic, but I don't think he explains his method very well.  Even something as basic as whether the hinge is horizontal or vertical.  I googled Phil's hinge and hold and found an equal number of videos (including the Golf Channel) that say its a vertical wrist cock as those that show it as a horizontal wrist hinge (cupping).  Good for chit.

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I really wanted to get better with my short game and ended up buying a book called "Your short game Solution" it was written by James Sieckmann. I would highly suggest that book. It takes some commitment but in my opinion it is a tour level routine. I never made a book/journal like it suggest but I did go out while I was hitting it really well and made myself a yardage book and noted my carry distances for 1/4 swings, 1/2 swings and 3/4 swings with LW, SW, GW, PW and 9-iron. Now I have that book to fall back on when I haven't practiced in a while. If I'm playing regularly I hit more off feel. If i'm not confident in a shot I default to my "known" yardages. 
That book has made a phenomenal difference for me. The techniques and swing thoughts are great. 
I also recommend this book! Changed my game for the better.

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