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Ok. I haven’t played a V-Sole iron or wedge that I remember. Other than the obvious spec difference between the bounce, brand, and the other obvious stuff.... like grips, and anything else that is well written. And that too.

 

Hogan vs Srixon

 

What’s the big deal with a V- Sole?

 

Has anyone used both of these? Which did you prefer, what is your swing type? Digger, picker, trencher, nipper?

 

Convince me that I need to try either one of these. You can use the 965 Srixon if you have that experience.

 

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I have nothing to add to your conversation, other than I find the Z-Forged to be the prettiest blades out right now. Does that help? 😀

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I have nothing to add to your conversation, other than I find the Z-Forged to be the prettiest blades out right now. Does that help? [emoji3]


A little. After reading their design ideas with the whole wave thing. I’ve read that the blade length is a touch longer than the other brands too.
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I have only tried them on mats. From what I have read the v sole helps with fat contact so I would guess it would benefit a digger.

I have also learned that while the z-forged is a beautiful club, I struggle to hit it consistently.

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I have tons of experience with V-soles on my wedges and I love them - extremely versatile, easily the most accurate wedges that I’ve had on full shots and great turf interaction.

I’m a picker so my swing type prefers a thicker sole once I get to around an 8 iron (whatever that loft might be.)

So in my bag I go extremely blade in my 60,56,52,48,44 to GI in the 9.

Also I play in a wide variety of conditions throughout the course of the year including different types of grass (overseeded with rye in the winter some form of Bermuda in the summer) and different types of sand. I used to need two sets of wedges, a summer set with more bounce for the wet conditions.

I can’t help with the Srixons, they look wonderful and we all know that they do well in MGS most wanted tests.

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Thanks for the input gentlemen.

Always willing to give my input when i can. Some may be relevant and some may not be [emoji16]
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I haven’t hit the Srixon’s but I played the Hogan’s last year and I thought the v-sole was great. It gives a lot of confidence if you worry about hitting it fat. I would go to the range and purposely hit balls from divots just to see if I could, no problem.

I am however, a picker. I learned the game by hitting 1950’s era blades on a farm field so lies were pretty terrible, and combined with a sharp leading and negative bounce you really had to be careful not to hit it fat. I am now back to playing my KZG’s which has a similar sole width as the Hogan’s but lacks the V-sole and I can’t say I miss it.

I think the v-sole allows the club designers to make the iron more compact, which nearly everyone that plays a more players style club asks for. Instead of a very wide sole, or tons of bounce, the v-sole gives the playability of a wider sole, or more bounce sole, but in a more eye pleasing package.





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Like Rev. I have played the v-sole wedges (SCOR) for years and I liked the turf interaction.  I'm not the greatest ball striker; I hit my share fat and thin, and I am not a digger.  My goto shot around the greens is my 58º SCOR and it works, but it's showing wear.  

I have been giving the Callaway PM grind a tryout the last couple of weeks, and I like it but it's a 54º with 14º of bounce.  So far, the C-grind sole seems to work pretty well for me, and I think I will be adding a 58º or 60º, which is my choice for most chips and pitches.

I tried the Srixons out last year at Demo days, but they felt completely different than my SCOR wedges, and I couldn't put a good swing on them.  Nice looking, but apparently not for me.  If I were in the market for irons that are compact with a v-sole, I would consider Ben Hogan.  For the moment I'm stuck on the wider sole SGI Bridgestones.

 

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The VSole is a big part of the reason I’m still playing Srixon irons and will continue to do so.  I’ve always been steeper and a bit of a digger when swinging my irons and they allow the club to cut right through and not go too deep.  I have the confidence that when I really need to get after one, even if I catch it a touch fat, I won’t lose much.

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Srixon, with their v-soles and beautiful club design caught my attention about a year and a half ago.  Bought the highly rated z565 irons and LOVE them.  Filled the wedges with Cleveland CBX Cavity Backs, 48, 52, 56 and 60 degree.  These, too have the v sole wedge and are the only wedge I've ever performed well with.  The v-sole has MUCH to do with this, as I am a digger.

Being somewhat impulsive and more than a bit of a club-ho, I have recently looked for a "back up" set of irons and was drawn to the Cleveland CBX irons for several reasons.  They don't cost an arm and a leg, the long irons are incredibly easy to hit, and the gapping works perfectly with the wedges I mentioned above.  

My thoughts are these...Srixon/Cleveland is a FAR underrated company that is currently producing extremely high quality irons.  I may be biased because using the CBX irons for the third round I played with them garnered me a 9 iron 140 yard hole in one and the lowest score I've ever shot on my home course (a 73).  I don't think I'll ever part with my 565's and will at some point put them back in the bag, but with the results of the CBX irons, which happen to have great feel for a non-forged iron, they will be my gamers for the foreseeable future.  

Anyone looking for quality equipment should NOT overlook Cleveland/Srixon!

 

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I went to a cool golf center today to get my clubs all dialed in and gapped. While I was there, the guy casually snuck a fitting in on me, and the Srixon 585 on a 80 gram kbs graphite shaft tied with the kgb tour head on the same shaft.

im a digger and he felt that the v-sole on the 585 was perfect for my swing. It seemed like a pretty big V compared to the kgb sole. The 585’s seemed like a fairly traditional loft as they were 10 yards shorter than my p790’s, which we all know are a strong hot club. I only hit on the mat, so I can’t tell you much, but it was interesting how the mat particles were left on top of the V, and not the leading edge

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Had Scor wedges and Nike Covert Forged irons with v soles.  Neither were very consistent for me. Last year I got Srixon Z565 irons and the v sole on these has been great.  Turf interaction is best by far.  I don’t know why they work better for me, just happy with the results.

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I'm pretty shallow into the ball and I have not liked any of the V-soles that I have tried (which include Srixon, Hogan and Scor).  The feel into and through the ground just is not right for me and my contact is just as not as crisp as it should be.

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On 4/22/2019 at 4:24 PM, Sluggo42 said:

I went to a cool golf center today to get my clubs all dialed in and gapped. While I was there, the guy casually snuck a fitting in on me, and the Srixon 585 on a 80 gram kbs graphite shaft tied with the kgb tour head on the same shaft.

im a digger and he felt that the v-sole on the 585 was perfect for my swing. It seemed like a pretty big V compared to the kgb sole. The 585’s seemed like a fairly traditional loft as they were 10 yards shorter than my p790’s, which we all know are a strong hot club. I only hit on the mat, so I can’t tell you much, but it was interesting how the mat particles were left on top of the V, and not the leading edge

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I’m a fairly shallow hitter and the V-sole on my Hogan irons works pretty well for me. Definitely not a magic fix, it still takes a good swing but slight misses get a bit of help.


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Older thread but relative to my current down select decision on irons - the ZX5 vs. G425.  From the responses on this thread and other sources, it seems the v-sole is best suited for "diggers";  that is they get the biggest benefit.  But it also sounds like the design is just fine for scalpers?  There is certainly a big difference between my finalists.  The relief cut on the sole at the heel further reduces interaction with the ground. I think @deejaidis correct that the v-sole really lends itself to making the iron look very player category-like without actually being one. The differences from top-line and face are not anywhere near as dramatic as from the sole. My testing was on artificial turf so I'm not sure if I'd experience different results on the real stuff?  I need to follow-up with the fitter on this question.

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27 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

Older thread but relative to my current down select decision on irons - the ZX5 vs. G425.  From the responses on this thread and other sources, it seems the v-sole is best suited for "diggers";  that is they get the biggest benefit.  But it also sounds like the design is just fine for scalpers?  There is certainly a big difference between my finalists.  The relief cut on the sole at the heel further reduces interaction with the ground. I think @deejaidis correct that the v-sole really lends itself to making the iron look very player category-like without actually being one. The differences from top-line and face are not anywhere near as dramatic as from the sole. My testing was on artificial turf so I'm not sure if I'd experience different results on the real stuff?  I need to follow-up with the fitter on this question.

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The v sole in my experience works with a shallow swing as well as a steeper one. I’m not a digger and had no issues playing the z545 or the z765. 
 

Iirc Ian talked about the sole and how @Golfspy_CG2 swing in the video of his fitting based on his numbers. 

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1 hour ago, fixyurdivot said:

Older thread but relative to my current down select decision on irons - the ZX5 vs. G425.  From the responses on this thread and other sources, it seems the v-sole is best suited for "diggers";  that is they get the biggest benefit.  But it also sounds like the design is just fine for scalpers?  There is certainly a big difference between my finalists.  The relief cut on the sole at the heel further reduces interaction with the ground. I think @deejaidis correct that the v-sole really lends itself to making the iron look very player category-like without actually being one. The differences from top-line and face are not anywhere near as dramatic as from the sole. My testing was on artificial turf so I'm not sure if I'd experience different results on the real stuff?  I need to follow-up with the fitter on this question.

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Based on everything I’ve heard you need to test these on grass to really understand the interaction. I never hit the vsole but people either say they love it or hate it with not much in between

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