CarbonPutters Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Few confessions before I get started: 1. This is my first post 2. I am one of the three founders of Carbon Putters 3. If I am promoting, I apologize - totally get it if this gets taken down. 4. Always respected the forums. There has been some nice things said about us - some not so nice things. Some of the fair, some of them I can't say are a reality. Does not happen much on this forum though. 5. Yes, manufacturers look at what golf equipment degenerates like you are saying about our brands. It can be painful and rewarding but I feel like staying on the sidelines and just observing may have been the right play in the past, but feel like I want to be available if anyone has questions or anything about the happenings at Carbon. Alright, on to the fun stuff. Last week, spent some time in Scottsdale with a 3-time tour winner who is looking at some new putter options and wanted to share the experience. Can't really say who it is, because quite honestly I am ignorant of what obligations he has to his manufacturer and I don't want to put him in a tough spot. We went to TPC Scottsdale and if you have ever had the chance to play it, you might have noticed there is a back range and two putting surfaces, what I did not know is that there are different grasses on those two surfaces so the tour players can practice on both as the year transitions and they change surfaces. Pretty slick, both were really pure. In prep, we put together 6 putters at his spec to test out, he plays them quite log so I brought out some more head shapes we have been working on but did not have time to lengthen the shafts or make any alterations to accommodate it. We had head weights ranging from 330 grams to 375 - honestly it was a bit of a shot in the dark because I did not have a ton of information on his current putter to try and replicate - we did a pretty good job finding a match to his current, but we cut it a half an inch too short - and that was a bit devastating because he holds it right at the top of the grip so it was a bit awkward for him to adjust. He had only seen a few heads that we sent a couple of years back, they were all far to heavy for him to take seriously but it was good to get that feedback and honesty. What I thought would be about 45 minutes turned into about 2 hours of putting. going through a bunch of heads and talking through what he liked and did not like. Along the way educating him how we do things slightly differently but we are passionate that it makes a big difference, especially to someone who is such an elite player. I honestly feel like at the start, it was a gratuitous meeting that he felt somewhat obligated to do, but when he started rolling them he was genuinely interested. Just when I thought we were about to wrap up, I showed him the Ringo Wide - a really heavy version of it that I did not think he would like because we just got done talking about how his ideal head weight was in the 330 - 345 range, plus this one was at normal playing length. But he liked the look, started rolling it and that's the one he asked us to go back to the shop with and make some iterations. 345. The main difference is the thickness of the top line but there are some subtle differences in the depth of milling in particular areas to dial in the weight exactly to those specs. Attached are the pictures of the final product. Wish us luck, this is our first chance at the big show. l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Welcome to MGS forums. You will enjoy it here, probably the best forum on Planet Earth. Nice looking putter- reminds me a bit of the evnroll 2.2 (not sure if it's that one) but short of coming out with a head shaped like the Star ship enterprise it must be difficult not to look similar to other manufacturers.......it's worked well for Scotties If I fully understand your post, you have a known tour player gaming your ringo- congratulations, is that for all events? I'll look out for it, maybe one of our spies will be able to shed more light. Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I love stories like this. It’s a small business making a dent in the big show. Thanks for sharing and good luck!Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchester33 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 That's got to be pretty exciting to have a pro swinging one of your putters. I hope if you find out that you can release a name that you will let us know. I would try to find some info on all current players with 3 pga tour wins but that doesn't seem to exist in an easy to find format. Driver: Callaway Rogue - Project X HZRDUS Yellow, 6.0, 63g Fairway: Callaway Epic 3 wood, Rogue MAX stiff, 75g 4-6 Iron: Mizuno JPX-850 - Project X 5.5 7-PW: Mizuno JPX-850 Forged - Project X 5.5 Wedges: Mizuno MP-T5 (50, 54), Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 60 ES Putter: Odyssey Marxman, Currently tested and kept Golf Pride Tour SNSR Contour Pro 140cc grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Welcome to My Golf Spy, CarbonPutters. Your pics depict a very clean look. Can you expound on the slot design?Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpc2828 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I’m a big fan of Carbon, bought the Ringo 1/4 when MGS made it best blade a few years back, I even sent it back to Carbon to get re finished and have you guys put the Bullet in the chamber for me and I still game it. Great looking putter you have there, I saw you guys post this on IG a few days back, I really like the look. Nice to have you hear enjoy!Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonPutters Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 50 minutes ago, fozcycle said: Welcome to My Golf Spy, CarbonPutters. Your pics depict a very clean look. Can you expound on the slot design? Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Sure I’ll do my best. The line you see on the bottom goes about 2/3 depth of the putter face. They have been called floating faces or sound slots. Most do this for a louder sound feedback. The slot we cut is twice the width as Normal and we we’re looking to do that to loose weight because the player did not want to change the fundamental geometry of the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonPutters Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 45 minutes ago, Peterpc2828 said: I’m a big fan of Carbon, bought the Ringo 1/4 when MGS made it best blade a few years back, I even sent it back to Carbon to get re finished and have you guys put the Bullet in the chamber for me and I still game it. Great looking putter you have there, I saw you guys post this on IG a few days back, I really like the look. Nice to have you hear enjoy! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Really appreciate you taking a chance on us and still gaming it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonPutters Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 3 hours ago, perseveringgolfer said: Welcome to MGS forums. You will enjoy it here, probably the best forum on Planet Earth. Nice looking putter- reminds me a bit of the evnroll 2.2 (not sure if it's that one) but short of coming out with a head shaped like the Star ship enterprise it must be difficult not to look similar to other manufacturers.......it's worked well for Scotties If I fully understand your post, you have a known tour player gaming your ringo- congratulations, is that for all events? I'll look out for it, maybe one of our spies will be able to shed more light. Should have included more details.. so there is no commitment, we just have a good shot at the bag. There is no money or contracts exchanging hands. We overnighted the putters to him yesterday. It may not be realistic to be in this week but feel optimistic we have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeSmails Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 great looking putter...I must say, I love your logo Driver: TR20 10.5* Hybrids: Epic SuperHybrid 3 18* Epic 4h 23* Irons: JPX900 Hot Metal 5-GW Wedges: CBX2 52* 56* 60* Putter: EV8 Ball: Tour BXS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonPutters Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, JudgeSmails said: great looking putter...I must say, I love your logo Glad to hear it. No going back now on the bandit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I too like the look of the putter. I'd personally want a different hosel/neck but I like the look of the head. You need to be able to publicize at some point; the name of the Pro using your putter. Even without a contract or any money. If you give the guy a putter and put all the work and effort into for him he's got to throw you a bone. Win-win. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonPutters Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, PlaidJacket said: I too like the look of the putter. I'd personally want a different hosel/neck but I like the look of the head. You need to be able to publicize at some point; the name of the Pro using your putter. Even without a contract or any money. If you give the guy a putter and put all the work and effort into for him he's got to throw you a bone. Win-win. I know him pretty well, I’m sure he would be glad to support it just playing it safe for now. Believe me if we get some TV time we will freak out and post it everwhere lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I agree the logo is sweet. Any thoughts on a mallet design? Just spit balling off the top of my head here but say a mini Indianapolis style with the short single bend shaft that mimics a flow neck with the indigo finish, a satin shaft, and a Golf Pride Tour SNSR Contour Pro grip playing 32" and weighing 380-400 grams! Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using MyGolfSpy mobile app What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonPutters Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 37 minutes ago, blackngold_blood said: I agree the logo is sweet. Any thoughts on a mallet design? Just spit balling off the top of my head here but say a mini Indianapolis style with the short single bend shaft that mimics a flow neck with the indigo finish, a satin shaft, and a Golf Pride Tour SNSR Contour Pro grip playing 32" and weighing 380-400 grams! Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using MyGolfSpy mobile app Not that you have thought about it at all.... got some mallets coming, I’ll perhaps that will be the next post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLeo12 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Congrats. I was a big fan of the Ringo during the testing and at 350 grams it would have been in the bag. I am gonna take a look at the new offerings. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G410 LST 10.5 set -1* Flat Accra TZ5 65 M5 Callaway Epic Flash 15* set -1 Aldila ATX Blue 75TX Ben Hogan FT Worth Hi 19* KBS Tour V X Ben Hogan PTX Pro 4-P KBS Tour V X 2* Flat 4* loft increments Hogan Equalizer 50* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 X 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 56* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 62* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat EVNROLL ER7 P2 Aware Tour Scotty Cameron Newport2 Buttonback P2 Aware Tour Grip Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 48 minutes ago, CarbonPutters said: Not that you have thought about it at all.... got some mallets coming, I’ll perhaps that will be the next post! Interested in seeing what you will be doing with mallets; I know you have the bandit already. Saw that you have 3 new models of putters available soon, any insight on what the shapes will be? Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonPutters Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 Working on a site overhaul, some model names have changed. We do have the masterson out, heal weighted blade available on the builder and finished putters ready to ship, will have a mid mallet type and another thinner blade model. Excited for our Carbondale - long neck Holiday limited release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonPutters Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 4 hours ago, cnosil said: Interested in seeing what you will be doing with mallets; I know you have the bandit already. Saw that you have 3 new models of putters available soon, any insight on what the shapes will be? 5 hours ago, KCLeo12 said: Congrats. I was a big fan of the Ringo during the testing and at 350 grams it would have been in the bag. I am gonna take a look at the new offerings. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Very cool, new line has a much more traditional weight, thinned the top line down on the Ringo, sharpened the bumpers. Overall felt like the Ringo and the Holliday needed to be more distinct from each other, here is a shot of it in shiny black oxide. Production model will be stainless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonPutters Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 4 hours ago, cnosil said: Interested in seeing what you will be doing with mallets; I know you have the bandit already. Saw that you have 3 new models of putters available soon, any insight on what the shapes will be? Nothing too abrasive, as you may notice we kinda dig simplicity and clean lines. The one we have in the works now has a good amount of surface area to look down at, lots of geometry to be very target oriented and some adjustable weight on the sides. First one we have done in multi material and we think it will be a very welcome design in a crowded space of pretty wild looking mallets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Nothing too abrasive, as you may notice we kinda dig simplicity and clean lines. The one we have in the works now has a good amount of surface area to look down at, lots of geometry to be very target oriented and some adjustable weight on the sides. First one we have done in multi material and we think it will be a very welcome design in a crowded space of pretty wild looking mallets I like the simple designs. The Masterson is a nice looking putter. Couple of questions though. What are the dimensions(heel to toe, face height, face to back of flange, etc)and is it possible to reduce the offset to basically no offset? Hard to visualize the putters when there is nothing to compare them too. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonPutters Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 Agreed. One of the things we are doing on our side being an online company is taking photos at address and face on with the ball so you can get a feel for the perportions. Yes, we have our own mills in the shop so you could do zero offset if you want that milled. I’ll track down the heel to toe number for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Welcome to the forum @CarbonPutters, glad you have joined us. I really appreciate that you give the option for lefties to bag a flatstick. Congratulations on having a shot at the big show, I really hope it works out favorably and you guys get some traction on tour. Love seeing small businesses get a shot. Keep up the good work and fantastic looking putters! Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonPutters Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 We are in the bag. Few layup hints for the player. Teeing off at 1:30, Scottish, and past champion at the Valero Texas Open. Guns up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 We are in the bag. Few layup hints for the player. Teeing off at 1:30, Scottish, and past champion at the Valero Texas Open. Guns up! Took me a few searches, but I found him! Good luck!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 9 hours ago, CarbonPutters said: We are in the bag. Few layup hints for the player. Teeing off at 1:30, Scottish, and past champion at the Valero Texas Open. Guns up! Found him...interesting. In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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