PING Apologist #9 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 43 minutes ago, goaliewales14 said: Could you do a blind test on us? Just record the sound and put a voting thing out there to see which one we like the best. That's a heck of a good suggestion! I'll put something together for y'all, you bet! goaliewales14 1 Quote In my DLX Cart Bag: Driver: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester) 3W: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 5W: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 7W: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff Irons: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff Wedges: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff Putter: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials") Ball: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the MTB RED) Shoes: Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes Disabled Marine Veteran. Semper Fi! #No apologies, just Play Your Best #Powertotheplayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/20/2019 at 9:30 AM, PING Apologist #9 said: Fellow testers, @jlukes, @tony@CIC, @fixyurdivot, @GolfSpy STUDque & @Golfspy_CG2, anyone beside myself hating the sound of this driver? I've not heard anyone pipe up about it thus far, but for me it's almost as obnoxious sounding as my old G-Series that I just couldn't stand. To me, PING has stepped backward with this aesthetic where the 400 had a more muted tone to it which was a major reason I got it last year. I plan on doing a comparison between the sound each makes in my pending stage-2, but so far the "tinny" report this thing makes is just not pleasing at all. Thoughts? I really haven't noticed a significant difference between it and my Callaway Razr-Fit. I agree it's a bit more "tinny", but not an issue for me. I really don't pay much attention to club sound - particularly if the club is hitting long and straight. HardcoreLooper, PMookie, PING Apologist #9 and 1 other 4 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post null Posted April 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2019 What has two thumbs, just had his Accra tz5 M5 delivered and is about to head to the range for a G410 session? This guy! Will have a writeup later tonight or tomorrow morning about my round from Friday and today's range session. JohnSmalls, russtopherb, goaliewales14 and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 54 minutes ago, jlukes said: What has two thumbs, just had his Accra tz5 M5 delivered and is about to head to the range for a G410 session? This guy! Will have a writeup later tonight or tomorrow morning about my round from Friday and today's range session. JohnSmalls and null 2 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 To me, this sound is intoxicating. I find it very pleasing on the ear and not harsh at all. To me, it sounds even better with a urethane tour ball and I'll capture one or two swings next time on the course for that sound. 12g weight in the toe. Swingweight D4 sirchunksalot, Golfspy_CG2, TSauer and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, jlukes said: To me, this sound is intoxicating. I find it very pleasing on the ear and not harsh at all. To me, it sounds even better with a urethane tour ball and I'll capture one or two swings next time on the course for that sound. 12g weight in the toe. Swingweight D4 From that angle/video, it sounds similar to the Epic Flash. Have you had a chance to hear them side-by-side? Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, edingc said: From that angle/video, it sounds similar to the Epic Flash. Have you had a chance to hear them side-by-side? Yes. Different sound. Ping has a tad more "pingy" sound (Ping has a titanium crown) while the Callaway is definitely more of a duller "thwack" sound you get from the carbon fiber crown it has. For the record, I absolutely hate the sound and feel so the Callaway drivers. edingc and Golfspy_CG2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunfa0 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 15 hours ago, jlukes said: To me, this sound is intoxicating. I find it very pleasing on the ear and not harsh at all. To me, it sounds even better with a urethane tour ball and I'll capture one or two swings next time on the course for that sound. 12g weight in the toe. Swingweight D4 Yep that still sounds higher pitched than the 400 but it does sound good.... especially when you hit it!! null 1 Quote In my cart Bag: Driver: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg Z U85 2 Iron Irons: T200 4 Iron AMT White S300 T100S - LH - 3-48* - AMT White S300 Wedges: Indi FLX- LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts Putter: 2 Bar Hybrid Ball: Pro V1x Testing: Haywood CB/MB Combo Iron Set, 4-7 Cavity backs, 8-PW Muscle Backs, True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 Stiff, 2 Degrees stronger lofts. Tracked By: Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post null Posted April 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2019 Round Recap - April 19th I got a last minute invite to play on Good Friday and who was I to say know. Temps started in the mid 50s and finished in the high 60s. Winds were 10-15 MPH with gusts around 25 mph. I shot 4 over (76) for my best round of the year. But you guys don't come to this thread to hear how I played, you come hear for my thoughts on the G410. Well here we go... It is the real deal. This round was still with the Ping Tour shaft, so while it fit me, I knew that I would have an even better fit once my ACCRA arrived. I think the Ping Tour shaft is a fantastic no-upcharge shaft. It is going to fit a wide variety of golfers and can handle some pretty aggressive swings. The driver head? Well so far it has lived up to the billing. I played the round with the weight in the toe (fade position) and with the hosel at neutral at the settings were an absolutely dream for me. I missed one fairway all day with the driver. ONE. 1. Uno. And it was on 18 with a 25MPH wind in our face and water down the entire left hand side. I missed right. 5 yards off the fairway. Exactly where I aimed it to take the water out of play. It was the single best driving day I have ever had. Moving from the flat to the neutral hosel setting definitely helped improve my start line better and I saw the draws I am used to. Really happy with the adjustability of this head. As for distance? Yes, some where wind aided, but I hit 4 of the longest drives I have ever hit in my life. I hit 4 drives over 330 yards and 2 of those measured at over 340! To give some perspective, my buddy who normally drives it around 260 hit drives of around 275-285 on those holes. Into the wind I still hit some fantastic drives that still got out over 260 which I was pleasantly surprised with. The Ping G410 Plus provides me such a great balance of distance and stability. It is low spin enough to let me hit some absolutely bombs, but not super low spin to the point where I cannot control it. I hit a couple toe balls and they still stayed in the air for a good amount of time and didn't duck hook left like it would have with some other drivers. I chalk that up to the head design and the moveable weights. All in all, just super happy with everything about the G410 right now and knew things were only going to get better as my fitted shaft was set to arrive on Monday. That leads us to.... Range Recap - April 22nd The mailman dropped of my shaft at 2pm and I immediately opened it up and popped in in the G410 head. I grabbed the rest of my clubs, told my wife I loved here and rushed out the door to my driving range. I warmed up through the bag then finally got to the G410. She had just performed so well for me on Friday, so how was she going to behave today with the new shaft? Well to sum it up, I eventually had to stop hitting driver because I had a little wind at my back and I was hitting the limited distance range balls over the hill/fence at the back of the range onto railroad tracks. Fence was at 265. I have a great relationship with the folks that run my range so I didn't want to lose any more of their range balls! While I mentioned I could absolutely game the Ping Tour 65x shaft if that was my only option (see round performance above ), I knew that the best review of the Ping G410 Plus head would only come if I was truly optimized with the right shaft. At club champion I got fit with the ACCRA TZ5 65 M5 and you can check out my thoughts as to why I selected that shaft here: April 5th - Shaft Testing at Club Champion Now that I was truly swinging freely with absolute confidence in the shaft, the Ping G410 Plus driver head began to shine brighter than ever before. Just beautiful high baby draws and baby fades. It saw smiling from ear to ear. I have hit many many many drivers on this range over the last 6+ years and I have never seen balls land where they were landing (or presumably landing, as I couldn't see the ones that were coming down in the trees and on the railroad tracks over the fence in the back). I cannot wait to get this combination out on the course. As I mentioned above in my round recap, the G410 Plus definitely retains a lot of the forgiveness/stability properties from its older brother, the G400 Max. Hits low on the face still launched relatively high and travel a better than acceptable distance. Toe hits stay in the air longer than you would expect. Just a really well balanced driver. For the sake of testing, I did play around with some other settings. I lofted down which opened the face and immediately noticed much more fades. I have to say it wasn't a ball flight I am used to seeing or practicing with so I set the sleeve back to neutral. I definitely want to experiment with that setting some more - perhaps opening the face and then moving the weight to neutral to balance it out a little. I posted this video clip yesterday, but I'll post it here again - I captured the sound when hitting range balls. Definitely sounds different than a lot of the drivers on the market, but that is mainly because it doesn't have a carbon fiber crown - the crown of the G410 is Titanium. All in all, testing could not have gotten off to a better start. Everything Ping has claimed in their marketing materials seems to be valid. I never gamed a Ping club before this driver test, and now I am wondering why I never gave Ping a chance before. I guess I thought a lot of their design stuff was gimmicky and flashy, but I am beginning to see that there is a method to their madness. As always, please ask me any and all questions and I will do my best to answer them as thoroughly as possible PING Apologist #9, yungkory, Shankster and 12 others 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 nice write up- thanks for sharing the sound- not sure I could live with that sound, it might be different in person though. Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Damn Joe... that’s crispy sounding. Love it. sirchunksalot and null 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Well I was going to put some music on today, but I think I'll turn up the volume and put the sound of that 410 on repeat. Rickp, MattF, Nunfa0 and 5 others 6 2 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Round Recap - April 19th I got a last minute invite to play on Good Friday and who was I to say know. Temps started in the mid 50s and finished in the high 60s. Winds were 10-15 MPH with gusts around 25 mph. I shot 4 over (76) for my best round of the year. But you guys don't come to this thread to hear how I played, you come hear for my thoughts on the G410. Well here we go... It is the real deal. This round was still with the Ping Tour shaft, so while it fit me, I knew that I would have an even better fit once my ACCRA arrived. I think the Ping Tour shaft is a fantastic no-upcharge shaft. It is going to fit a wide variety of golfers and can handle some pretty aggressive swings. The driver head? Well so far it has lived up to the billing. I played the round with the weight in the toe (fade position) and with the hosel at neutral at the settings were an absolutely dream for me. I missed one fairway all day with the driver. ONE. 1. Uno. And it was on 18 with a 25MPH wind in our face and water down the entire left hand side. I missed right. 5 yards off the fairway. Exactly where I aimed it to take the water out of play. It was the single best driving day I have ever had. Moving from the flat to the neutral hosel setting definitely helped improve my start line better and I saw the draws I am used to. Really happy with the adjustability of this head. As for distance? Yes, some where wind aided, but I hit 4 of the longest drives I have ever hit in my life. I hit 4 drives over 330 yards and 2 of those measured at over 340! To give some perspective, my buddy who normally drives it around 260 hit drives of around 275-285 on those holes. Into the wind I still hit some fantastic drives that still got out over 260 which I was pleasantly surprised with. The Ping G410 Plus provides me such a great balance of distance and stability. It is low spin enough to let me hit some absolutely bombs, but not super low spin to the point where I cannot control it. I hit a couple toe balls and they still stayed in the air for a good amount of time and didn't duck hook left like it would have with some other drivers. I chalk that up to the head design and the moveable weights. All in all, just super happy with everything about the G410 right now and knew things were only going to get better as my fitted shaft was set to arrive on Monday. That leads us to.... Range Recap - April 22nd The mailman dropped of my shaft at 2pm and I immediately opened it up and popped in in the G410 head. I grabbed the rest of my clubs, told my wife I loved here and rushed out the door to my driving range. I warmed up through the bag then finally got to the G410. She had just performed so well for me on Friday, so how was she going to behave today with the new shaft? Well to sum it up, I eventually had to stop hitting driver because I had a little wind at my back and I was hitting the limited distance range balls over the hill/fence at the back of the range onto railroad tracks. Fence was at 265. I have a great relationship with the folks that run my range so I didn't want to lose any more of their range balls! While I mentioned I could absolutely game the Ping Tour 65x shaft if that was my only option (see round performance above ), I knew that the best review of the Ping G410 Plus head would only come if I was truly optimized with the right shaft. At club champion I got fit with the ACCRA TZ5 65 M5 and you can check out my thoughts as to why I selected that shaft here: April 5th - Shaft Testing at Club Champion Now that I was truly swinging freely with absolute confidence in the shaft, the Ping G410 Plus driver head began to shine brighter than ever before. Just beautiful high baby draws and baby fades. It saw smiling from ear to ear. I have hit many many many drivers on this range over the last 6+ years and I have never seen balls land where they were landing (or presumably landing, as I couldn't see the ones that were coming down in the trees and on the railroad tracks over the fence in the back). I cannot wait to get this combination out on the course. As I mentioned above in my round recap, the G410 Plus definitely retains a lot of the forgiveness/stability properties from its older brother, the G400 Max. Hits low on the face still launched relatively high and travel a better than acceptable distance. Toe hits stay in the air longer than you would expect. Just a really well balanced driver. For the sake of testing, I did play around with some other settings. I lofted down which opened the face and immediately noticed much more fades. I have to say it wasn't a ball flight I am used to seeing or practicing with so I set the sleeve back to neutral. I definitely want to experiment with that setting some more - perhaps opening the face and then moving the weight to neutral to balance it out a little. I posted this video clip yesterday, but I'll post it here again - I captured the sound when hitting range balls. Definitely sounds different than a lot of the drivers on the market, but that is mainly because it doesn't have a carbon fiber crown - the crown of the G410 is Titanium. [/url] All in all, testing could not have gotten off to a better start. Everything Ping has claimed in their marketing materials seems to be valid. I never gamed a Ping club before this driver test, and now I am wondering why I never gave Ping a chance before. I guess I thought a lot of their design stuff was gimmicky and flashy, but I am beginning to see that there is a method to their madness. As always, please ask me any and all questions and I will do my best to answer them as thoroughly as possible I’m going to have a few questions maybe next month when Doc lets me loose.My biggest question is which 410 to look at and if my swing and swing speed has remained the same.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy sirchunksalot and PING Apologist #9 2 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Golfspy_CG2 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2019 Great stuff Joe, love it that you're hitting limited flight balls over the net at the end of the range. When I was at PING a couple weeks ago, I got to see the infamous Bubba net, now the infamous Cameron net---they might need to raise it even higher---but I didn't quite hit it over that...ha BTW, to all the testers in all threads, I love the new format of this year with continual updates after rounds and range sessions instead of "saving it for Stage 2" it really keeps the thread alive and readers engaged. You guys are doing great with it. GolfSpy_BNG, PING Apologist #9, MaxEntropy and 11 others 14 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 9 hours ago, jlukes said: I never gamed a Ping club before this driver test, and now I am wondering why I never gave Ping a chance before. You're probably starting to give some serious thought to a used set of PE2's about now... right? JohnSmalls, PMookie and tony@CIC 3 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Round Recap - April 19th I got a last minute invite to play on Good Friday and who was I to say know. Temps started in the mid 50s and finished in the high 60s. Winds were 10-15 MPH with gusts around 25 mph. I shot 4 over (76) for my best round of the year. But you guys don't come to this thread to hear how I played, you come hear for my thoughts on the G410. Well here we go... It is the real deal. This round was still with the Ping Tour shaft, so while it fit me, I knew that I would have an even better fit once my ACCRA arrived. I think the Ping Tour shaft is a fantastic no-upcharge shaft. It is going to fit a wide variety of golfers and can handle some pretty aggressive swings. The driver head? Well so far it has lived up to the billing. I played the round with the weight in the toe (fade position) and with the hosel at neutral at the settings were an absolutely dream for me. I missed one fairway all day with the driver. ONE. 1. Uno. And it was on 18 with a 25MPH wind in our face and water down the entire left hand side. I missed right. 5 yards off the fairway. Exactly where I aimed it to take the water out of play. It was the single best driving day I have ever had. Moving from the flat to the neutral hosel setting definitely helped improve my start line better and I saw the draws I am used to. Really happy with the adjustability of this head. As for distance? Yes, some where wind aided, but I hit 4 of the longest drives I have ever hit in my life. I hit 4 drives over 330 yards and 2 of those measured at over 340! To give some perspective, my buddy who normally drives it around 260 hit drives of around 275-285 on those holes. Into the wind I still hit some fantastic drives that still got out over 260 which I was pleasantly surprised with. The Ping G410 Plus provides me such a great balance of distance and stability. It is low spin enough to let me hit some absolutely bombs, but not super low spin to the point where I cannot control it. I hit a couple toe balls and they still stayed in the air for a good amount of time and didn't duck hook left like it would have with some other drivers. I chalk that up to the head design and the moveable weights. All in all, just super happy with everything about the G410 right now and knew things were only going to get better as my fitted shaft was set to arrive on Monday. That leads us to.... Range Recap - April 22nd The mailman dropped of my shaft at 2pm and I immediately opened it up and popped in in the G410 head. I grabbed the rest of my clubs, told my wife I loved here and rushed out the door to my driving range. I warmed up through the bag then finally got to the G410. She had just performed so well for me on Friday, so how was she going to behave today with the new shaft? Well to sum it up, I eventually had to stop hitting driver because I had a little wind at my back and I was hitting the limited distance range balls over the hill/fence at the back of the range onto railroad tracks. Fence was at 265. I have a great relationship with the folks that run my range so I didn't want to lose any more of their range balls! While I mentioned I could absolutely game the Ping Tour 65x shaft if that was my only option (see round performance above ), I knew that the best review of the Ping G410 Plus head would only come if I was truly optimized with the right shaft. At club champion I got fit with the ACCRA TZ5 65 M5 and you can check out my thoughts as to why I selected that shaft here: April 5th - Shaft Testing at Club Champion Now that I was truly swinging freely with absolute confidence in the shaft, the Ping G410 Plus driver head began to shine brighter than ever before. Just beautiful high baby draws and baby fades. It saw smiling from ear to ear. I have hit many many many drivers on this range over the last 6+ years and I have never seen balls land where they were landing (or presumably landing, as I couldn't see the ones that were coming down in the trees and on the railroad tracks over the fence in the back). I cannot wait to get this combination out on the course. As I mentioned above in my round recap, the G410 Plus definitely retains a lot of the forgiveness/stability properties from its older brother, the G400 Max. Hits low on the face still launched relatively high and travel a better than acceptable distance. Toe hits stay in the air longer than you would expect. Just a really well balanced driver. For the sake of testing, I did play around with some other settings. I lofted down which opened the face and immediately noticed much more fades. I have to say it wasn't a ball flight I am used to seeing or practicing with so I set the sleeve back to neutral. I definitely want to experiment with that setting some more - perhaps opening the face and then moving the weight to neutral to balance it out a little. I posted this video clip yesterday, but I'll post it here again - I captured the sound when hitting range balls. Definitely sounds different than a lot of the drivers on the market, but that is mainly because it doesn't have a carbon fiber crown - the crown of the G410 is Titanium. [/url] All in all, testing could not have gotten off to a better start. Everything Ping has claimed in their marketing materials seems to be valid. I never gamed a Ping club before this driver test, and now I am wondering why I never gave Ping a chance before. I guess I thought a lot of their design stuff was gimmicky and flashy, but I am beginning to see that there is a method to their madness. As always, please ask me any and all questions and I will do my best to answer them as thoroughly as possible Joe I'm envious of the results with your new shaft. As I've reported out earlier the 410 SFT is very straight. Except for a few hits including a shank straight into the water I've been very pleased with probably 10 rounds. As a comparison I had both my SFT and my GBB with me tonight on the course which I had set to neutral on the sliding weight so it should have been a close comparison given similar shaft flex. The SFT was slightly longer and was straighter than the GBB. Also at that setting the GBB was resulting in a slight pull. I am a bit frustrated with my distance. Not sure if it's the weather, or the shaft flex (I have a senior flex in my GBB as well). Given my SS which is low to mid 80', the recommendation was a SR flex. It's another week before I can get to the fitter, but it'll be interesting what his recommendation is. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy fixyurdivot, MaxEntropy, Rickp and 6 others 9 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newballcoach Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Guys this is a great thread and I love the updates you are all putting out. Keep up the excellent work everyone, I'm now anxiously looking up when the next Ping fitting date is close to me! tony@CIC, fixyurdivot and Golfspy_CG2 3 Quote WITB Driver- PING G400 LST w/ Project X Evenflow Black Fwy- TM Aeroburner 16.5HL Irons- Callaway Steelhead XR (3-PW) Wedges- Callaway MD3 (50,54,58) Putter- Cleveland TFI Satin Cero Ball- Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I'll have a full write-up on Sunday or Monday, but I played this morning and I'm still smiling. This G410/Accra tz5 combo is stupid for me. Played this morning at my home course. On this one par 5 I normally hit 3hybrid to the green in two after I hit a good drive. Today I hit 5 iron... MattF, THEZIPR23, palvord and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 4 hours ago, jlukes said: I'll have a full write-up on Sunday or Monday, but I played this morning and I'm still smiling. This G410/Accra tz5 combo is stupid for me. Played this morning at my home course. On this one par 5 I normally hit 3hybrid to the green in two after I hit a good drive. Today I hit 5 iron... Did you say that the 410 is going longer than th g400 max? If so, what kind of gains are you seeing? tony@CIC 1 Quote TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, Sluggo42 said: Did you say that the 410 is going longer than th g400 max? If so, what kind of gains are you seeing? Never gamed the Max. Never gamed any Ping club before this test tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, jlukes said: Never gamed the Max. Never gamed any Ping club before this test ok, I see you were just mentioning some similar charactristics from the max. Im still gaming the LST, and todays round was just another exceptional driving day. Long and exactly where I aim it. If the 410 throws some additional yardage on top of the accuracy, then wow. My buddy can still out cork me with his Rogue SZ, but its often anyones guess where its going. Nunfa0, tony@CIC, sirchunksalot and 2 others 5 Quote TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PING Apologist #9 Posted April 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 26, 2019 No baseball. No Softball. No Sh**! "Learn it. Know it. Live it....Time to hit the range..!! After my normal warm-up, I started in with my nemesis...Driver. Actually had some decent hits, but then realized..."Hey! You're trying to be too precise!" "Wind-up, be loose and let go dummy!" Started feeling it and got some Mojo working on a perfect wind-less night. The shots just started coming and I began to hit the center of the face and began to just whip some of them off... 230... 230... 264...251....242.....241...….258...…...270........! YES!!!!! I then pulled my G400 and un-corked several with it too...217...228...229...221...208...242...248...254 I can honestly say I've never had a driver shot go more than 240 before...EVER! My new-found grip along with a proper hip-flip has shown me something...distance.... and with both clubs! This battle for supremacy is ON!!! I finally had the chance to actually compare my two drivers side-by-side for real and took full advantage of it. Tonight's conclusion? For once I am confident that I've gathered some valuable and tangible data that is easy to disseminate.The G410 was a true monster and I felt that it easily won the night in performance over my G400. I gave everything I had to the 400, but it just couldn't seem to keep up. I've never...EVER recorded a shot of 270 before, and yet there it was! The difference in average? 230 vs. 248!! This 410 has some real pop and so far, it appears to be holding up to PING's claims of being "better". I'm drinking the Cool-Aid now... More to come fellow spies. Cheers all! MaxEntropy, bens197, fixyurdivot and 12 others 15 Quote In my DLX Cart Bag: Driver: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester) 3W: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 5W: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 7W: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff Irons: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff Wedges: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff Putter: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials") Ball: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the MTB RED) Shoes: Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes Disabled Marine Veteran. Semper Fi! #No apologies, just Play Your Best #Powertotheplayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunfa0 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, PING Apologist #9 said: No baseball. No Softball. No Sh**! "Learn it. Know it. Live it....Time to hit the range..!! After my normal warm-up, I started in with my nemesis...Driver. Actually had some decent hits, but then realized..."Hey! You're trying to be too precise!" "Wind-up, be loose and let go dummy!" Started feeling it and got some Mojo working on a perfect wind-less night. The shots just started coming and I began to hit the center of the face and began to just whip some of them off... 230... 230... 264...251....242.....241...….258...…...270........! YES!!!!! I then pulled my G400 and un-corked several with it too...217...228...229...221...208...242...248...254 I can honestly say I've never had a driver shot go more than 240 before...EVER! My new-found grip along with a proper hip-flip has shown me something...distance.... and with both clubs! This battle for supremacy is ON!!! I finally had the chance to actually compare my two drivers side-by-side for real and took full advantage of it. Tonight's conclusion? For once I am confident that I've gathered some valuable and tangible data that is easy to disseminate.The G410 was a true monster and I felt that it easily won the night in performance over my G400. I gave everything I had to the 400, but it just couldn't seem to keep up. I've never...EVER recorded a shot of 270 before, and yet there it was! The difference in average? 230 vs. 248!! This 410 has some real pop and so far, it appears to be holding up to PING's claims of being "better". I'm drinking the Cool-Aid now... More to come fellow spies. Cheers all! Love it Ping Apologist, let's see you bring it to the course next Edited April 26, 2019 by Nunfa0 JohnSmalls, sirchunksalot and PING Apologist #9 2 1 Quote In my cart Bag: Driver: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg Z U85 2 Iron Irons: T200 4 Iron AMT White S300 T100S - LH - 3-48* - AMT White S300 Wedges: Indi FLX- LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts Putter: 2 Bar Hybrid Ball: Pro V1x Testing: Haywood CB/MB Combo Iron Set, 4-7 Cavity backs, 8-PW Muscle Backs, True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 Stiff, 2 Degrees stronger lofts. Tracked By: Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 8 hours ago, PING Apologist #9 said: No baseball. No Softball. No Sh**! "Learn it. Know it. Live it....Time to hit the range..!! After my normal warm-up, I started in with my nemesis...Driver. Actually had some decent hits, but then realized..."Hey! You're trying to be too precise!" "Wind-up, be loose and let go dummy!" Started feeling it and got some Mojo working on a perfect wind-less night. The shots just started coming and I began to hit the center of the face and began to just whip some of them off... 230... 230... 264...251....242.....241...….258...…...270........! YES!!!!! I then pulled my G400 and un-corked several with it too...217...228...229...221...208...242...248...254 I can honestly say I've never had a driver shot go more than 240 before...EVER! My new-found grip along with a proper hip-flip has shown me something...distance.... and with both clubs! This battle for supremacy is ON!!! I finally had the chance to actually compare my two drivers side-by-side for real and took full advantage of it. Tonight's conclusion? For once I am confident that I've gathered some valuable and tangible data that is easy to disseminate.The G410 was a true monster and I felt that it easily won the night in performance over my G400. I gave everything I had to the 400, but it just couldn't seem to keep up. I've never...EVER recorded a shot of 270 before, and yet there it was! The difference in average? 230 vs. 248!! This 410 has some real pop and so far, it appears to be holding up to PING's claims of being "better". I'm drinking the Cool-Aid now... More to come fellow spies. Cheers all! Wow that's a great distance improvement #9! I wish I could say the same. I'm getting additional distance but not to that level. On the other hand they're straight so I'm meeting my objective. MaxEntropy, MattF, JohnSmalls and 1 other 4 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Something keeps nagging at me... shafts. During my fitting, all four shaft options were available, yet I only tested the CB Alta in reg and stiff. Now it could be that my current shaft is in fact the best fit for me but I really wish I had tested the others. That's the thing about lots of options - they fill our heads with questions. Hopefully my club fitter here in MT has one or more of the optional shafts available and I can hit them to answer this nagging question in my head. MattF and PING Apologist #9 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PING Apologist #9 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said: Something keeps nagging at me... shafts. During my fitting, all four shaft options were available, yet I only tested the CB Alta in reg and stiff. Now it could be that my current shaft is in fact the best fit for me but I really wish I had tested the others. That's the thing about lots of options - they fill our heads with questions. Hopefully my club fitter here in MT has one or more of the optional shafts available and I can hit them to answer this nagging question in my head. Remind me which one you currently have in it. I currently have a spare Alta CB in regular that I will be putting up for sale here shortly. If you want to try it (if using stiff), I'd be willing to send it to ya to play around with... JohnSmalls, fixyurdivot and MattF 3 Quote In my DLX Cart Bag: Driver: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester) 3W: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 5W: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 7W: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff Irons: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff Wedges: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff Putter: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials") Ball: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the MTB RED) Shoes: Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes Disabled Marine Veteran. Semper Fi! #No apologies, just Play Your Best #Powertotheplayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, PING Apologist #9 said: Remind me which one you currently have in it. I currently have a spare Alta CB in regular that I will be putting up for sale here shortly. If you want to try it (if using stiff), I'd be willing to send it to ya to play around with... Alta CB Stiff. I tested that and the regular and the stiff was best. It's the other 3 options I did not test and keep wondering about... even straighter and longer?? PING Apologist #9 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 hours ago, fixyurdivot said: Something keeps nagging at me... shafts. During my fitting, all four shaft options were available, yet I only tested the CB Alta in reg and stiff. Now it could be that my current shaft is in fact the best fit for me but I really wish I had tested the others. That's the thing about lots of options - they fill our heads with questions. Hopefully my club fitter here in MT has one or more of the optional shafts available and I can hit them to answer this nagging question in my head. Alta CB is counterbalanced - as is the Tensei CK Orange. Alta CB is lighter. Not sure how the bend profile compares between the two. The Evenflow Black and Ping Tour shafts are very different from eachother and the Alta and Orange. PING Apologist #9 and MattF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PING Apologist #9 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said: Alta CB Stiff. I tested that and the regular and the stiff was best. It's the other 3 options I did not test and keep wondering about... even straighter and longer?? I bet the PING Tour or the Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange like I have would be fine candidates for you. After last night's range session, this Tensei really showed up and I'm glad I went against my "fitter" and selected it based on feel alone. Yeah, if you can, try those out, but unlike the CB I offered to send, I'm not willing to borrow out the CK... MattF and fixyurdivot 1 1 Quote In my DLX Cart Bag: Driver: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester) 3W: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 5W: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 7W: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff Irons: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff Wedges: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff Putter: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials") Ball: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the MTB RED) Shoes: Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes Disabled Marine Veteran. Semper Fi! #No apologies, just Play Your Best #Powertotheplayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Joe I'm envious of the results with your new shaft. As I've reported out earlier the 410 SFT is very straight. Except for a few hits including a shank straight into the water I've been very pleased with probably 10 rounds. As a comparison I had both my SFT and my GBB with me tonight on the course which I had set to neutral on the sliding weight so it should have been a close comparison given similar shaft flex. The SFT was slightly longer and was straighter than the GBB. Also at that setting the GBB was resulting in a slight pull. I am a bit frustrated with my distance. Not sure if it's the weather, or the shaft flex (I have a senior flex in my GBB as well). Given my SS which is low to mid 80', the recommendation was a SR flex. It's another week before I can get to the fitter, but it'll be interesting what his recommendation is. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy TonyI was “fit” with a senior shaft with my Ping G driver and 400 irons. Last fall at a different fitter they had me in a regular shaft (Mizuno & Rogue) and I did pick up carry. My driver swing speed mid 80’s. Not sure what was going on but I will be going after new driver & irons this summer, probably regular shafts .Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy PING Apologist #9 and josmi15 2 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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