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37 minutes ago, Wedgie said:

How did you guys determine the proper hosel setting?  Ball flight?  Launch monitor?  Feel?

For me it was all about what I was seeing on the range and on the course 

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4 hours ago, jlukes said:

For me it was all about what I was seeing on the range and on the course 

+1.  I thought I had it pretty dialed in following the initial fitting and play while in Yuma.  But as noted in my stage 2, with the advantage of seeing  ball flight data, a new setting has been established.  I haven't had a chance to hit range or course balls as yet - seems "old man winter" is being pretty obstinate about releasing his grip. 

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How did you guys determine the proper hosel setting?  Ball flight?  Launch monitor?  Feel?

It was simple - launch monitor. If you check my stage 2 you'll see the results of my session with the fitter. Currently I have mine set at *6 on a 10.5 SFT with a CB 55 R flex shaft. The only issue I have is on very windy days driving into a headwind. On those days I slip my Ping 400 3i crossover into the bag and use it off the tee.
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I effing love this driver 
 
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Holy Shite Joe. That’s super fast!

Joking aside the swing looks in tune, and that ball flight!

Good stuff.
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On ‎04‎/‎02‎/‎2019 at 11:10 PM, PING Apologist #9 said:

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Just curious which 400 did you play with...Max, SFT? Did you try the 410 Plus  with the movable weight to take out your "power fade"? I had the opposite result with the SFT - it was straight everytime and I have the same CB 55 R Flex shaft cut down 1/2" . However, as a disclaimer i do use a strong grip (on all clubs - not just driver). 

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On 4/3/2019 at 1:10 AM, PING Apologist #9 said:

PING G410 SFT Driver - Stage 2 Review - Ping Apologist #9

 

 

          TRY ONE!!! IMMEDIATELY!!! You will not be disappointed and you may even be surprised. With the addition of the G410 LST (Low Spin Tech) drivers just a few days ago, the PING G410 line is finally complete and should appeal to just about all types of golfers. As for my personal misgivings about the sound my driver makes, don’t let that little gig prevent you from giving one of these a whirl. It may grow on you and is distinctive enough to maybe even be proud of. To me, the investment made of your hard-earned dollars will be instantly realized as a solid investment into your golfing future.

          Thank-you for reading and please feel free to ask me any questions you have at any time.

 

 

Good solid honest review and I love it!   Well done 👏

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36 minutes ago, ole gray said:

 

Good solid honest review and I love it!   Well done 👏

Thanks OG! That really means a lot and I appreciate you! Cheers my friend!😁

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1 hour ago, tony@CIC said:

Just curious which 400 did you play with...Max, SFT? Did you try the 410 Plus  with the movable weight to take out your "power fade"? I had the opposite result with the SFT - it was straight everytime and I have the same CB 55 R Flex shaft cut down 1/2" . However, as a disclaimer i do use a strong grip (on all clubs - not just driver). 

My G400 was the SFT model, so I was literally comparing apples against apples. PING's claim for the 410 SFT was that it has "50% more heel-side CG than G400" which is supposed to ensure straighter ball flights (see pic)IMG_20190403_230149792.jpg.d49411d0f95729158a6418ac0916ef36.jpg

You can see the weight on the 410 on it's extreme backside near the shaft while the weight for the G400 looks more centered and is set in the bottom, so from a physical view, the 50% claim is valid. But generally for my crappy, swiping-swing, I have had troubles keeping the ball flight straight and certainly never see a draw of any kind despite the SFT  built in to these. When I was fitted for the 410, Dick's didn't have a SFT head at the time, so I hit the G410 Plus head with the weight in the "draw-bias" position with similar results on the LM; fades & slices. Disclaimer: there I was still in weak-grip mode...

I think my biggest issue is NOT the club, but finding a good and repeatable strong grip and to stop coming in over the top or in too steeply. The times I have this set, this club shines and does its job very well. I simply have to focus more on doing my job with it properly. I will however continue to tinker with it to find my mental happy place with it. I have a different shaft (Aldila Tour Blue) I want to try and I also want to grab up some different weights. This story is not over yet.

Thanks for the questions!!😀

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9 minutes ago, PING Apologist #9 said:

My G400 was the SFT model, so I was literally comparing apples against apples. PING's claim for the 410 SFT was that it has "50% more heel-side CG than G400" which is supposed to ensure straighter ball flights (see pic)IMG_20190403_230149792.jpg.d49411d0f95729158a6418ac0916ef36.jpg

You can see the weight on the 410 on it's extreme backside near the shaft while the weight for the G400 looks more centered and is set in the bottom, so from a physical view, the 50% claim is valid. But generally for my crappy, swiping-swing, I have had troubles keeping the ball flight straight and certainly never see a draw of any kind despite the SFT  built in to these. When I was fitted for the 410, Dick's didn't have a SFT head at the time, so I hit the G410 Plus head with the weight in the "draw-bias" position with similar results on the LM; fades & slices. Disclaimer: there I was still in weak-grip mode...

I think my biggest issue is NOT the club, but finding a good and repeatable strong grip and to stop coming in over the top or in too steeply. The times I have this set, this club shines and does its job very well. I simply have to focus more on doing my job with it properly. I will however continue to tinker with it to find my mental happy place with it. I have a different shaft (Aldila Tour Blue) I want to try and I also want to grab up some different weights. This story is not over yet.

Thanks for the questions!!😀

Steep AoA? You haven't seen steep - until you'll seen mine 🤣.

 I'd start by transitioning from the weak grip to at least neutral and see what impact (no pun intended) that has on ball flight.. With the strong grip my normal flight path is now a cut that comes back into the middle of the fairway. FYI my fitter tried me with the Plus and even with the draw setting, It didn't work as well as my SFT. But obviously everyone is different. 

 

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45 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:

Steep AoA? You haven't seen steep - until you'll seen mine 🤣.

 I'd start by transitioning from the weak grip to at least neutral and see what impact (no pun intended) that has on ball flight.. With the strong grip my normal flight path is now a cut that comes back into the middle of the fairway. FYI my fitter tried me with the Plus and even with the draw setting, It didn't work as well as my SFT. But obviously everyone is different. 

 

What's weird for me is that I can hit fairway woods nice-n-crisp and my irons have all come alive the minute I went to the stronger grip. All go straight with consistent flight paths and I am very comfortable with them all. Perhaps my biggest flaw with driver is my take-away...if that's "effed" from the start, the whole blinking swing goes to He**!😖 Gotta get me a lesson or 12 I know, but that takes extra cash that I simply do not have at this time. The self-diagnosis will just have to suffice for now unfortunately...😬

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With my foot feeling way better, I decided to hit the range before the t-storms get here. After a quick warm-up and some instruction to my Son on his first whack at golf, I pulled driver and simply tried to relax....

First one out of the gate was a duff with a divot...😱 and I thought to myself, "I can't suck that bad...Can I!?" No chance. Second hit... 267 with a slight fade! Now we're talkin'! LET'S GO! 239, 250, 227, 230, 242, 248, 261, 256 & 230! Average: 245! I won't lie and indeed did have the occasional duff/divot mixed in that I deleted (2 really bad ones like the first), but this little performance for me was just AWESOME. I felt that with relaxed, but strong grip (not strongly gripped..!) I was getting supreme results over and over again. Had one of these (the 242 or 248 shot) that was a swipe job that "power-faded" way right, but all in all, most flights were either pretty damn straight, or with slight fades. I can deal with those.

Just gotta think: Strong (but relaxed) "natural" grip coupled with a smooth, shallow take-away, left arm stiff, good wrist hinge and throw the club at the ball...wrap the follow-thru around the neck...Magic. Now can I please hit a friggin' fairway with the darn thing?! We'll see. Playing 18 starting at 08:00 tomorrow at the Ranch.

Giddy-up!

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Great stage 2 reviews, guys! It's good to see that the 410 performed for each one of you. I honestly didn't see how Ping was going to improve on last year's model, but I see they have.

 @PING Apologist #9 your comic style in the reviews are great. I like the fact that you picked up a wood to compliment the driver, she's one good looking club.

 

You guys really nailed it.

 

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Just now, sirchunksalot said:

Great stage 2 reviews, guys! It's good to see that the 410 performed for each one of you. I honestly didn't see how Ping was going to improve on last year's model, but I see they have.

@Ping_Apologist_#9 your comic style in the reviews are great. I like the fact that you picked up a wood to compliment the driver, she's one good looking club.

You guys really nailed it.

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Dude, I thank-you from the bottom of my heart. THIS really means a lot my friend-in fact I'm a bit misty to be honest... CHEERRS!! Now go keep kicking A** with that Epic!!! I'm-a-watchin'!!!

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I felt that with relaxed, but strong grip (not strongly gripped..!)

 

 

Thanks for further elaborating. I think everyone on this forum understands the difference but we may have some golf newbies here that don't.

 

My golf world changed (positively) when I went to a strong grip (from Driver to PW).

 

Good luck tomorrow.

 

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6 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

 

Thanks for further elaborating. I think everyone on this forum understands the difference but we may have some golf newbies here that don't.

 

My golf world changed (positively) when I went to a strong grip (from Driver to PW).

 

Good luck tomorrow.

 

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Thanks Bud! I'm stoked to get out there and for sure will report in on my experiences. You're the best and please keep them coming!

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On ‎05‎/‎26‎/‎2019 at 2:29 PM, PING Apologist #9 said:

With my foot feeling way better, I decided to hit the range before the t-storms get here. After a quick warm-up and some instruction to my Son on his first whack at golf, I pulled driver and simply tried to relax....

First one out of the gate was a duff with a divot...😱 and I thought to myself, "I can't suck that bad...Can I!?" No chance. Second hit... 267 with a slight fade! Now we're talkin'! LET'S GO! 239, 250, 227, 230, 242, 248, 261, 256 & 230! Average: 245! I won't lie and indeed did have the occasional duff/divot mixed in that I deleted (2 really bad ones like the first), but this little performance for me was just AWESOME. I felt that with relaxed, but strong grip (not strongly gripped..!) I was getting supreme results over and over again. Had one of these (the 242 or 248 shot) that was a swipe job that "power-faded" way right, but all in all, most flights were either pretty damn straight, or with slight fades. I can deal with those.

Just gotta think: Strong (but relaxed) "natural" grip coupled with a smooth, shallow take-away, left arm stiff, good wrist hinge and throw the club at the ball...wrap the follow-thru around the neck...Magic. Now can I please hit a friggin' fairway with the darn thing?! We'll see. Playing 18 starting at 08:00 tomorrow at the Ranch.

Giddy-up!

6/13 FIR today...G410 SFT Driver showed up to play today😀

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Thanks guys - I’m heading for my long game fitting this morning but will also be looking at irons and driver.

 

These really had me excited particularly fix your divots review. We have around the same SS and if I could gain 6 more yards of carry and get my spin rate back down to 2400 I would be one happy camper. It would net big yards for me -

 

I just had the crap beaten out of me by a course where we were forced to play a set of tees back because that’s where our outting was from - and I easily drove the ball the best of anyone in our group. 2 of the guys were longer than I but they visited OB as much as the fairway. That’s partially a result of playing from too long too as they were hitting drivers on holes that were tight. I’m exhausted from hitting so many hybrids and 3 woods. It’s just not a fun way to play. The great guys easily made up for it.

 

Of note we were first off and finished two full holes ahead of the next group. The ranger actually came out to us on 15 to thank us for playing at a good pace. That good pace was still a 4 hour round in 96 degree heat. Just play the right tees if you’re setting up an outing! :)

 

Okay vent I’ve, thanks again for these reviews - very helpful. I will hop back on after today’s fitting.

 

 

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Posted (edited)

Guys,

 

A bit of advice please.  I have the G410 plus for about 4 weeks.  9 degree and draw setting. Noticing 2 things are reasonably consistently happening:

1.  2/3 of my strokes are towards the heel

2. 60% of my tee shots are fading and missing right.

So I know I have work to do on my swing to get line of attack more from the inside to avoid the fade.

However, utilising the settings available on G410 PLUS what settings would you guys suggest I try that might be best suited to mitigating fade and heel strikes.  

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