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On ‎06‎/‎19‎/‎2019 at 9:24 AM, GolfSpy Stroker said:

Gary Woodland had this and the 3 wood in his bag with the Accra shaft when he won the US Open.... and he's not paid to play them.  Just sayin'

Driver: Ping G410 Plus (9 degrees set at 7)
Shaft: Accra RPG 472 M5+ (44.75 inches, tipped 2 inches)

Yeah, I recognized it immediately when I saw him pull the 3w out. Stock Alta CB Red shaft and all...

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Well I played my first round with the G410 plus paired with the Diamana RF 50x shaft tonight. It is a 10.5* head and I settled on the little plus setting. I could tell I was spinning it too much by the slight ballooning and zero roll. I tried to go down in loft but that opened the face and everything went more right on me. I am wondering if the 9* head at the little plus would have been a wiser choice but I did hit 7/14 fairways. The ball definitely felt like it exploded off the face and I didn't hear any off-putting sound. I can definitely see why all you guys loved it. Ping definitely improved on the g400 in my opinion. 

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Well I played my first round with the G410 plus paired with the Diamana RF 50x shaft tonight. It is a 10.5* head and I settled on the little plus setting. I could tell I was spinning it too much by the slight ballooning and zero roll. I tried to go down in loft but that opened the face and everything went more right on me. I am wondering if the 9* head at the little plus would have been a wiser choice but I did hit 7/14 fairways. The ball definitely felt like it exploded off the face and I didn't hear any off-putting sound. I can definitely see why all you guys loved it. Ping definitely improved on the g400 in my opinion. 


Did you try moving the weight to draw? Also you could look at what a heavier shaft might bring.


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I did move the weight to draw for a couple swings. I wasn’t a fan of how the feel of the head changed. By that I mean it felt like the swingweight was a lot lighter and I lost the feeling of where the head was in my swing. I have never really seen any real flight changes from any clubs moveable weight tech and this one was no different.
I may look at a different shaft but at the same time I’m not sure I should mess with it. 50% of fairways is ok to me plus the others were fairly close and I played the same ball the whole round.
So I guess I need to ponder whether another 5-10 yards is worth messing around for.


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I did move the weight to draw for a couple swings. I wasn’t a fan of how the feel of the head changed. By that I mean it felt like the swingweight was a lot lighter and I lost the feeling of where the head was in my swing. I have never really seen any real flight changes from any clubs moveable weight tech and this one was no different.
I may look at a different shaft but at the same time I’m not sure I should mess with it. 50% of fairways is ok to me plus the others were fairly close and I played the same ball the whole round.
So I guess I need to ponder whether another 5-10 yards is worth messing around for.


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It would be - yes 5 times 14 is 90 - Half a stroke per round. Who wouldn’t take half a stroke for a turn of the wrench?


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It would be - yes 5 times 14 is 90 - Half a stroke per round. Who wouldn’t take half a stroke for a turn of the wrench?


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While a half a stroke a round would be nice, I’m not sure that equates for the courses I play around me. Most par 4’s are already driver then 8-iron or less and only a couple par 5’s are reachable for me anyways. It may be different if it we were talking a full club difference.
Oh who am I kidding I love tinkering so I will probably look for something anyways.


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On the accra shaft... Definitely one to try during a fitting. I tried two out early this year and they were legitimately the worst two shafts for my swing out of the 15 of so I tried that day. I couldn't find the center of the club and had no consistency with ball speed or dispersion. 

 

It was disappointing as between the conversations here and the TXG vids, I really wanted to like them. It was good, because I wasn't having to pay the premium they demand. 

 

In no way do I think they are anything but great, and there are plenty that can speak to their fit and performance. They are absolutely worth a try if you can before you buy. 

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On the accra shaft... Definitely one to try during a fitting. I tried two out early this year and they were legitimately the worst two shafts for my swing out of the 15 of so I tried that day. I couldn't find the center of the club and had no consistency with ball speed or dispersion. 
 
It was disappointing as between the conversations here and the TXG vids, I really wanted to like them. It was good, because I wasn't having to pay the premium they demand. 
 
In no way do I think they are anything but great, and there are plenty that can speak to their fit and performance. They are absolutely worth a try if you can before you buy. 


This is why we should always get fit before buying - we may want to buy something but just like an appetite at a buffet line the eyes may sometimes be too big for it!

Great reminder and also great understanding that something that didn’t work for you may be just right for someone else.


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On 4/2/2019 at 11:10 PM, PING Apologist #9 said:

PING G410 SFT Driver - Stage 2 Review - Ping Apologist #9

 

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Welcome back for my Stage-II review! It’s been a wet-n-wild 6-weeks or so since I received this weapon and I’ve done my best to put it through its paces. 5 or 6 different range-only sessions coupled with at least that many rounds have been all I could muster, but it has been enough for me to come to my conclusions. I’ve used every hosel position, tried a different shaft and even re-gripped it already. Although I know I’ve fallen a little short in the hard-data-gathering aspect of things, this review is certainly heavy with “analog” thoughts and feelings on getting a new driver more from the point-of-view of the average guy buying golf equipment off the rack which I believe is more in spirit line with the majority of golfers in the world.

 

LOOKS

 

          What can I say? Black goes with everything and when red is in the mix, it becomes a classic (if somewhat sinister…think Black Widow) look that should appeal to many. The tone of red PING uses on this series of clubs is subdued and definitely not overpowering. I think, gives the club a business-only kind of look and then add a few chrome touches and I think you have a winner.  IMG_20190525_171514217.thumb.jpg.c3d3cf3de0abbb4ee0d95fe096c4c100.jpgEven with the stock Alta CB Red shaft plugged in, the matte paint on it keeps it from a distracting the user and from also blinding your playing partners with some sort of “look-at-me” freaky bling. 392200654_IMG_20190426_2138241242.thumb.jpg.5f088dabe062ce8308979679c39df731.jpg The crown is nice to look at and has less of those famous “dragonfly” effects on top and I think it looks “better”. IMG_20190525_222724664.thumb.jpg.d87507ffac14a808a450eb1a4c48838e.jpg Also of note, the similarly-famous Turbulators appear to be a bit more prominent than the G400 and the face has a bit more detail to it. 1539556280_IMG_20190514_1908506622.thumb.jpg.564034f8b8154ae4b8b0cedc19930660.jpg All these aspects combine into a package that should be appealing to most everyone. My only gig is the head cover. It was a little hard to squeeze on & off and I’d ask that a revisit be done to reintroduce covers that have an outer cuff that you can put your fingers into and use to pull it down over the head easier.

 

SCORE: 9/10

 

SOUND & FEEL

 

          Literally, my very first experience hitting this club had me asking myself out loud: “What the Hell was PING thinking..??!!” I was not pleased with the sound it makes at ALL. In fact it seemed to be on par with the sound my old G-Series driver made (think of an empty garbage pail falling over), which I absolutely HATED. Then after hitting it side-by-side with my G400, I was devastated. The G400 has much more of a quiet “thunk” compared to the re-visited “toink” I was hearing again from this G410. For me, PING went backwards on this one. The major appeal to me for saving up and buying the G400 last August was mainly because it sounded WAY better than the G. This driver sounds almost as loud as a G and has taken some time to get used to. (Disclaimer: Try as I might, my efforts to put together a sound comparison between my 400 & 410 all failed and I’ve omitted them for lack of quality.) Sorry PING. You lost me on this one…

          Now as for feel, not much I can iterate here other than…well…it just feels good. Normal. Expected. The big 455cc head on the end of my shortened (-1/2”) shaft with the factory-set D0 swing-weight gives me confidence to let-er-rip. The materials used and the supreme engineering behind it all are amazing and lend to a positive mindset when drawing it from the bag and whirling it about. I’d say it simply feels “natural”. Mis-hits are obvious by both sound and feel, but while a mis-hit won’t shatter your teeth out, you certainly do get immediate feedback that this last shot was something other than center-punched. IMG_20190425_185355920.thumb.jpg.4e37c7f15507ce6c42c18bb2af35368d.jpgWith this club, I can usually tell before I look at the face where it came off from both the feel & the dreaded sound it made.

SCORE: 6/10 (only 1-pt given for sound, 5-pts for feel)

BASIC CHARACTERISTICS

 

          PING claims that the “SFT” (Straight Flight Technology) built into this head by placing a single heavy weight off center near the shaft area on the back of the head, provides “maximum fade and slice correction”. For me..? Not so fast! I can still slice the snot out of any given shot even with an impact in the sweet spot. So, no. This is not a magic club and it will NOT automatically correct a crummy swing. Do not buy this club with that false expectation. While I believe this technology does help, if you continue to come in steep and swipe across the ball, a-slicing you will go.

          The new “8-lobe trajectory tuning” hosel is certainly a departure from the 4-way adjustment of the recent past for PING. You can make some pretty wholesale changes to not only loft (+or- 1 or 1.5*), but now can change the lie angle a bit between -1* and +1*. I played around with these settings quite a bit and will most likely continue to do so while I continue to fine tune, but nearly every time I deviated from -1* down in loft, I always seemed to come back to that setting. Different shafts I want to try will start this game all over again, but it sure is nice to have these additional fitting options to try out on your on and on the fly. Kudos to PING for this engineering marvel!

          The forged face is awesome and durable. The before-mentioned prominent turbulators certainly lend to a very easy and repeatable aiming point at address and again the matte finish to the top of the head makes addressing the ball a pleasure without distraction from any sort of glare.

SCORE: 20/20

 

ON-COURSE PERFORMANCE

 

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          During my early testing of this club, I fiddled with a stronger grip after it was pointed out to me that I had regressed back to a weak one. Though it felt a bit odd, I began to warm up to it and immediately began seeing better and longer iron shots and it also really woke up the driver on the range-especially in the distance category. The very next session at the range really proved this out and I was pounding them hard with one registering in at 270!!!IMG_0086.thumb.jpg.fd78655acb715a57e1dcd00883ef0a1e.jpg Taking this new-found grip to the course however, turned out to not be an instant magic elixir with the driver. I continued to struggle with “power fades” and it seemed that hitting into the short grass was just not in the cards. In fact, the first 18 played solely with this driver, I had a total of ZERO fairways hit. Not cool. However, if/when I could find my ball, I was usually 10 to even 30-yds further up and THAT was a huge bonus and this simply meant to me that I had to do a better job at finding the right, repeatable grip and right swing to suit this club’s potential. It’s there…I just have to learn to unlock it better. A few more rounds after this have been better, but I am still struggling a bit with it but refuse to fault the club for my flaws. I know the consistent 240-260 is there. It is up to me to control that power better. More to come on this one, but at the time of this posting, I remain at a steady 22 HCP and still score in the mid to low 90’s even with this beast at my disposal. Tough call here, but my score is:

SCORE: 20/30

 

MISCELLANEOUS

 

          PING has really stepped-up with their “no up-charge” shaft offerings and for no more than the standard retail price of this club, you can be fitted into several brands and models that not too long ago, would have been considered “premium” or “elite” shaft options. It seems just a year or two ago one would have been charged an obscene amount of cash to get shafts like these and now they are available to us “common” folk... I dig my Mitsubishi Chemical Tensei Orange 60 and further love that if I paid for this head and that shaft with my own dollars, it would not have exceeded the retail off-shelf price of one from Dick’s (or wherever) with the stock Alta shaft in it. Add to this PING’s vaunted and legendary customer service. For me, A#1 bar none. They will bend over backwards to assist you and always do things right.

SCORE: 10/10

 

PLAY IT, or TRADE IT?

 

          Sorry G400… You are gone…IMG_20190525_224802162.thumb.jpg.7a2a0a2a72ade41cbb8625decb9d0712.jpg

For me, a round-ish 50-year-old and one who has struggled for distance, the 410 SFT driver fits the bill and has displaced the 400 and now resides permanently in my bag. That night on the range where I was hitting everything well, it was just obvious that the G410 was better than the G400…even despite my misgivings about the way the 410 sounds. Screw it! At this point I’ll take every yard I can get, so I sold off my G400 and used those funds to get a girlfriend for my G410 driver…a brand new G410 7-wood…IMG_20190525_230524380.thumb.jpg.48a0c46a08c97de04caabaaf517ef0f1.jpg This little club ROCKS! It filled the gap I had between 5i & 5w and for me reflects just how good the whole darned G410 line is as an over-all series. Stock shaft, stock grip and stock setting. Right off the rack, a monster. My G410 SFT clubs are in play, no apologies!

SCORE: 20/20

 

CONCLUSION

 

FINAL SCORE: 85/100

 

          TRY ONE!!! IMMEDIATELY!!! You will not be disappointed and you may even be surprised. With the addition of the G410 LST (Low Spin Tech) drivers just a few days ago, the PING G410 line is finally complete and should appeal to just about all types of golfers. As for my personal misgivings about the sound my driver makes, don’t let that little gig prevent you from giving one of these a whirl. It may grow on you and is distinctive enough to maybe even be proud of. To me, the investment made of your hard-earned dollars will be instantly realized as a solid investment into your golfing future.

          Thank-you for reading and please feel free to ask me any questions you have at any time.

 

How are you liking the 7W? I've absolutely loved my so far this season and is my go to club! 

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2 minutes ago, ZJBogey2 said:

How are you liking the 7W? I've absolutely loved my so far this season and is my go to club! 

Hey Zach - might also want to take a look through this thread:

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/32205-2019-official-forum-member-review-ping-long-game-gapping-testingreview/

These guys are testing top of the bag clubs like the 7W.

 

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2 minutes ago, ZJBogey2 said:

How are you liking the 7W? I've absolutely loved my so far this season and is my go to club! 

I am LOVING it! I would even venture to say that it is the one club in my bag that I am the most confident with and look forward to using more than any other I have.

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5 hours ago, mr.hicksta said:

So I ended up switching to the G410 Plus paired with my ACCRA TZ5 65 M4 and good lawd it is long and ridiculously forgiving. The last two rounds I've hit some of the best drives I've hit this year and it has only been in the bag those two rounds. Ping has a choke hold on the top of my bag, and I have zero issue with that. This is an absolutely phenomenal driver!!!

Yup - Ping's got a runaway hit!

 

Just curious how much more yardage you got with it. 

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Need to get my swing back on track (have a lesson tomorrow and schedule another 8/10) but once it’s relatively consistent again I’ll be seeing my normal fitter to see if the plus or lst works best and whether I’m an s or x flex...have had different results with both lately 

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Yup - Ping's got a runaway hit!
 
Just curious how much more yardage you got with it. 


No doubt, they’ve been on fire since they released the G400 a couple years ago!

Based on the drives I hit at my home course, I was easily 5-10 yards longer than previous driver.
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I REALLY want to try the new LST at Club Champion, or the like, to see if it can beat my G400 LST!


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I REALLY want to try the new LST at Club Champion, or the like, to see if it can beat my G400 LST!


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Just do it!!


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Just do it!!


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I just don’t have the $ right now.... $125 just to step into the joint! Ugh!


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I just don’t have the $ right now.... $125 just to step into the joint! Ugh!


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Or you can wait a year and get it the driver for $200.00 with a 90 day guarantee.


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      Std. Swingweight: 6i (C1), 7i (C2), 8i (C2), 9i (C2.5), PW (C4), UW (C5), SW (C6),
      Stock grip: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Garnet 360 in three sizes (Blue -1/16", Red -1/32", Aqua -1/64")
      Shaft options: PING ULT240i (Lite and Ultra Lite flexes)
      U.S. MSRP: $137.50 per iron
      G Le2 Hybrids
      Multi-material construction: 17-4 stainless steel head, CarTech Custom 455 steel face
      Lofts: 4H (22⁰), 5H (26⁰), 6H (30⁰), 7H (34⁰)
      Std. lengths: 4H (39"), 5H (38 1/2"), 6H (38"), 7H (37 ½")
      Std. Swingweight: C0
      Stock grip: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Garnet 360 in three sizes (Blue -1/16", Red -1/32", Aqua -1/64")
      Shaft options: PING ULT240H (Lite and Ultra Lite flexes)
      U.S. MSRP: $200 per hybrid
      G Le2 Putters
      Anser
      Putter Type: Blade
      Materials: 17-4 stainless steel body, dual-durometer PEBAX insert
      Finish: Champagne nickel plating
      Adjustable-Length Shaft: 31" to 35" range (std: 33")
      Head Weight: 345g
      Stroke Type: Slight Arc
      U.S. MSRP: $215
      Shea
      Putter Type: Mid Mallet
      Materials: 17-4 stainless steel body, dual-durometer PEBAX insert
      Finish: Champagne nickel plating
      Adjustable-Length Shaft: 31" to 35" range (std: 33")
      Head Weight: 350g
      Stroke Type: Strong Arc
      U.S. MSRP: $215
      Echo
      Putter Type: Mallet
      Materials: Machined 6061 aluminum body, stainless steel soleplate, dual-durometer PEBAX insert
      Finish: Magenta-color anodized body, champagne nickel soleplate
      Adjustable-Length Shaft: 31" to 35" range (std: 33")
      Head Weight: 360g
      Stroke Type: Slight arc or Straight
      U.S. MSRP: $270
       
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    • By Golfspy_CG2
      This is a process that started back in January at the PGA Show when I had a conversation with the people at PING about the testings for this year.   Both of us wanted to do something new and different, and after coming up with an idea and ironing the details, a testing unlike any we've done before was born.
      We talk often on this site saying "Go Get Fit"  and PING has a phrase you hear constantly among it's staff #FittingMatters   And one of the areas that we felt fitting was overlooked was in the long game, fairway woods and hybrids.  
      So I went out to PING HQ in Phoenix, and was fit by one of their master fitters.  PING then graciously arranged for the four testers who were selected, to be fit by either the area field rep for PING or in the case of two of them,  two top 100 PING Fitters.  

      So this review thread will be a bit different as it will have a third stage--the fitting process--which will be talked about at the same time as Stage 1 is posted.   As a staff tester, I will post one stage, that is hopefully not TLDR...but make no promise 🙂
      Each person was fit to what fit their personal gaps between driver and the last iron.   So each of us came up with a different combo to test.  I think you will find the results very interesting and in some cases eye opening.
      One final note.  Due to the horrific weather and deadly floods/tornado's that hit MO last month, TSauer's fitting was delayed quite a bit from the others.  Fortunately he and everyone involved are safe and sound, but it just took a while for them to all work through the timing.   So his stage's may be a bit behind the others, but he has an awesome setup to review, and I'm looking forward to reading all these, knowing how my setup has helped my game already.
      @revkev                         Stage 1           Fitting                Stage 2
      @mr.hicksta                   Stage 1          Fitting                Stage 2
      @TSauer                        Stage 1           Fitting               Stage 2
      @PAgolfer2017             Stage 1            Fitting               Stage 2
      @Golfspy_CG2              Combined Review
       
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