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I feel I can assume a lower handicap or better yet, a scratch golfer can consistently hit all the same statistics (ball speed, club speed, spin, launch angle, etc.) if using the same club and the same ball. If so, can a person actually test tees to see how much different ones can affect spin. Or would the differences be to tiny.20190404_113622.jpeg

 

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In theory, perhaps.  In reality, probably not.

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I think golfers can get close to the same numbers with the same ball and club. They will not always be the same since path, angle of attack, club head speed, rate if rotation, where you hit the balk on the face, etc will be All be different.

 

What I think a tee will do is raise the ball slightly which would result in better overall contact and a higher strike on the face. This would result in potentially a bit more distance and less spin than an equal strike from off the ground.

 

As for testing tees, they probably won’t impact the overall numbers very much.

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21 minutes ago, cnosil said:

As for testing tees, they probably won’t impact the overall numbers very much.

This...I know some claim it, but I think it's more marketing hype.  With that said, I do prefer the Pride plastics over wooden unless the ground is rock hard, but that's solely for durability purposes.

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I prefer white painted tees.  They leave a small mark on the bottom of the club so I can check contact position v. feel when in question.  

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As someone that buys and sells drivers at a pretty quick rate, I prefer 3 1/4” natural wood tees. They don’t leave marks on the bottom or face of my driver.


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2 hours ago, SuperDave said:

 

I feel I can assume a lower handicap or better yet, a scratch golfer can consistently hit all the same statistics (ball speed, club speed, spin, launch angle, etc.) if using the same club and the same ball.

 

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Not really, I know with my swing it will vary up to 3-5mph CHS, which in turn will change all other stats. Resistance would probably be the only thing you could actually test, but my guess is that it is statistically insignificant. 

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2 hours ago, SuperDave said:

Or would the differences be to tiny.

I'll say this.... if tees claiming more distance or less spin, or straighter ball flight, etc. etc. made any measurable difference then the TV golfers would all be using them. They don't. I have some Stinger tees like in the top photo. They're fine. But no added distance. And they are dangerous. Those things are as sharp as a dart.

The biggest problem amateurs have with tees is not teeing the ball high enough.

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I haven't been on here in awhile, but you're still wise as ever Plaid

I'll say this.... if tees claiming more distance or less spin, or straighter ball flight, etc. etc. made any measurable difference then the TV golfers would all be using them. They don't. I have some Stinger tees like in the top photo. They're fine. But no added distance. And they are dangerous. Those things are as sharp as a dart.
The biggest problem amateurs have with tees is not teeing the ball high enough.


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I sat on the same Tee Box for 5 straight days 10 hours a day at a PGA Tour event. Not only did I not see one singular specialized tee, often times the guys would reach down and grab whatever they could find laying on the ground, jab it into the soil and swing away. These are guys whose lively hood depends on every aspect of the game.

 

Don’t believe the hype. The old trusty wooden tee is the standard across the globe. Howeverrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I do like the tees with the height marker. It helps me to consistently tee the ball up the exact same height.

 

 

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If you believe the packing, it does matter - it's been PROVEN....

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I saw these at Dick's last night and thought of this thread.

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10 minutes ago, MaxEntropy said:

If you believe the packing, it does matter - it's been PROVEN....

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I saw these at Dick's last night and thought of this thread.

Okay, I'll own it, I bought a pack of these a year or two ago.  I cannot confirm if they gave me 4 more yards but I can confirm they are a pain in the rear to get into firm turf.  The plastic the ball sits on collapses when you try to push down.  I can also confirm they do not last 100 drives.  Since I couldn't get the damn thing in the ground they lasted zero drives.

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Actually that would be a great test for the MGS lab test guys---- Me I use whatever---- I am almost 62 years old and have never purchased a tee in my life. Growing up with my old man running a golf course I had and found plenty especially working the cart shed. Believe it or not I have tees probably 40 or 50 years old some in real tin Chase and Sanborn coffee cans. Like my old man I picked up tees. Sometimes played at clubs that gave you tees. My friend up the street who owns the pancake house gives them away and insists I grab several handfuls everytime I go there. Tourists also do not pick up tees either. Most of the time I can start a round here with 2 tees in my pocket and end up with 6 after the round. Most guys have a change jar on their dresser for spare change I have that and a tee jar. As far as tees marking up the sole of my driver I could care less If I happen to care acetone or WD-40 takes care of that. Personally I prefer stock wooden tees and BTW I tee the ball with the driver on most shots low or traditional height even with a modern driver unless I really want to hit it high 

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10 minutes ago, BIG STU said:

Actually that would be a great test for the MGS lab test guys---- Me I use whatever---- I am almost 62 years old and have never purchased a tee in my life. Growing up with my old man running a golf course I had and found plenty especially working the cart shed. Believe it or not I have tees probably 40 or 50 years old some in real tin Chase and Sanborn coffee cans. Like my old man I picked up tees. Sometimes played at clubs that gave you tees. My friend up the street who owns the pancake house gives them away and insists I grab several handfuls everytime I go there. Tourists also do not pick up tees either. Most of the time I can start a round here with 2 tees in my pocket and end up with 6 after the round. Most guys have a change jar on their dresser for spare change I have that and a tee jar. As far as tees marking up the sole of my driver I could care less If I happen to care acetone or WD-40 takes care of that. Personally I prefer stock wooden tees and BTW I tee the ball with the driver on most shots low or traditional height even with a modern driver unless I really want to hit it high 

As I recall, I have only bought tees once - the guy I was playing and I both usually scavenged the tee box for something useful, but people were too good at housekeeping on this particular day and course and we couldn't find enough so each bought a bag at the turn.

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My club provides long tees and I have over 500 of my own in the garage (long white tees).  But, my wife gave me some Snell balls for Christmas and they gave some plastic tees as a bonus gift.  I rather like those.  They're the type of hard plastic with small ridges on the top of the tee...work well in turf and they don't break immediately after use, either.

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I would ask Bryson D to share his files. I am sure he has done this test, and has an inordinate amount of Data to share 

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35 minutes ago, hckymeyer said:

This is from 2011.  While the testing methodology of MGS has progressed leaps and bounds since this test it's still pretty cool.

https://mygolfspy.com/mygolfspy-labs-golf-tee-wars/

I knew there was a reason I purchased the 4 more yards tee.  Getting them back out tomorrow and giving them another try.  

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In testing, it has been shown that there is an additional force needed to get the ball out of the “cup” of the tee, so, removing that cup, should give some additional benefit since that force wasn’t lost. I tried the John Daly tees that had three sets of “filament” the ball rested on, and the holder slid around a regular tee. Off the driver it was great!


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Our club provides wooden tees but I buy the 2 3/4 plastic ones since I break the wooden ones all the time. The plastic ones seem to last forever.


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