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Golf Ball Test Results...Pre-Reveal  

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  1. 1. Which brand do you think performs the best in MGS Golf Ball Test to be revealed Monday? (I have no idea what balls are being tested but this is my best bet)

    • Bridgestone (e6, e12, Tour B X, Tour B XS, Tour B RX)
      11
    • Callaway (Chrome Soft, Chrome Soft X, ERC Soft)
      1
    • Cut (Red, Green, Blue, Black, Brown, Mauve, Burgundy, Candy Apple, Cyan, Golden Rod)
      0
    • Maxfli (Tour, Tour x)
      0
    • Mizuno (RB Tour, RB Tour X)
      0
    • Snell (MTB Red, MTB Black, MTB X)
      11
    • Srixon (Q Star, Z Star, Z Star XV, LGBTQ Star)
      4
    • TaylorMade (TP5, TP5x, Project (a), Project (s))
      8
    • Titleist (Pro V1, Pro V1x, AVX, Tour Soft, Velocity, DT TruSoft)
      15
    • Vice (Drive, Pro, Pro Plus, Pro Soft)
      5
    • Volvik (I don't even know if they're in the test)
      0
    • Wilson (DUO Soft, DUO U, FG Tour)
      0
    • Other
      1

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Great test and probably the most beneficial golf test for me that I've read.  I change golf balls more often than my undies and based on my scoring last year and these results I am going back to the Z Star for the year.  I'm a golf ball doesn't matter guy and that changed today.  Thank you for all the effort put into this and the presentation.

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Tough to give-up so many yards off the tee between TP5X and Bridgestone Tour B X. Crazy. Looks like I need to swap out my TP5X!!!


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Driver: :honma: TR20 460, :Fuji: Ventus Black 70X

Fwy: :titelist-small: TS3, 15*, Veylix Rome 888 X

Hybrid: :callaway-small: X2 Hot Pro, 20*, :Fuji: Rombax 8D07HB TM27 X

Irons: :srixon-small: Z585 4/5 iron, Z785 6-PW, :Nippon:Modus 120X

Wedges: Vega VW-06 50*/54*/58*, Dynamic Gold S400

Putter: :seemore-small: Platinum M5 HT Mallet, 36"

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It still shows that you have to find a ball that works for your. This ball test could help in determining factors that you want in a golf ball and could point you in a direction. 

I don’t care for titleist at all for anything, so I don’t care what the testing shows, they don’t get into my bag unless i find them in the Woods, and then I just give them away. Now, outside of Titleist, the balls that I have found that work best for me, Chrome soft, Chrome soft X, Snell black, Snell X. I am currently using the MTB X, but I like the black as well. I would exclusively use the Truvis black and yellow, but to get new ones the price keeps climbing. 

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Thanks MGS!

I must admit I believed in some of those myths: such as being unable to compress a ball properly and softer is longer for slower swing speeds (<100mph)

I used to have a hard time sticking with one ball, cause they all felt similar... and I would buy whatever was on sale.

AAANNNDDD... 90% of the balls I buy are lakeballs... I always thought it was the manufacturers protecting their revenue by saying pond balls are a no-go, so I didn't believe it.

As I mentioned, I jumped on a deal of 35 dozen Vice Pro and Vice Pro+ before the results were published and I'm glad they didn't land at the bottom of the group.

I would like to try the Snell, but the closest distribution is in the UK and the prices are not that attractive.

Since I can't see myself paying more for a ProV1x or Tour B X, I guess I'll stick with the Vice Pro. I certainly won't lose sleep over 3 yards of carry, which are also offset with the yards offline.

With the 7i and wedges, I'll be sacrificing 300-400RPM, but should be OK with the increased LA.

Starting tomorrow, it's gonna be Vice Pro for me every round. I shall report by the end of the season and blame the ball if my HCP doesn't go down! 😄

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:callaway-small: X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S
:taylormade-small: JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR :adams-small: Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S
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After pouring over the data, Any of the balls in the Good, Very Good, and Excellent categories are all fairly close. A MPH here or there, a yard or 4 in distance, most of us lose more than that due to inconsistent strikes. To me it really looks like the the biggest issues would be manufacturing tolerances, which create the dispersion inconsistencies. IMO...  And the balls with the highest spin rates tend to be shorter off irons which goes to reason... 

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So I'm in between the test speeds at around 95mph with driver, so it took me a bit of reading to try and figure out where I'm at.

Personal experience with the ProV1/x means I'm still not going anywhere close to that one.

I did see the Q Star Tour get rated as a higher launch/lower spin for "slower than internet forum poster" speeds, which is nice to see since it's one of my favorite balls.

In the end, I'm still going to keep playing the Duo, QST, Project (a), etc. Mostly because I have 6+ dozen of them on my closet shelf still 😄

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:callaway-small:  GBB 3W (lofted to 4W)
:callaway-small: V-Series Heavenwood
:cobra-small: Baffler XL 5i-PW
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33 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

So I'm in between the test speeds at around 95mph with driver, so it took me a bit of reading to try and figure out where I'm at.

Personal experience with the ProV1/x means I'm still not going anywhere close to that one.

I did see the Q Star Tour get rated as a higher launch/lower spin for "slower than internet forum poster" speeds, which is nice to see since it's one of my favorite balls.

In the end, I'm still going to keep playing the Duo, QST, Project (a), etc. Mostly because I have 6+ dozen of them on my closet shelf still 😄

@russtopherb Not sure if you saw in the article that if you click both the 115mph and the 85mph filters you will get the average if the 2 for data (100mph). I am in the same boat, 95mph. Doesn't change the data a whole lot but good to know. I also play the Taylormade Project (a) ball since i have like 6 boxes on my shelf as well. I wish that ball was included on the testing. Though I am interested in the Bridgestone Tour BX...

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  • Driver: :taylormade-small:  M6 9* with 65g Stiff Mitsubishi Tensei Red shaft
  • 3 wood: :taylormade-small:  M4 with 60g Atmos red stiff shaft
  • 4-pw irons: :ping-small:  G710 with stiff KBS shafts (MGS Tester '20)
  • Wedges: 52, 56, 60 :titelist-small: SM5 & SM6
  • Putter: 34" :odyssey-small: 2-ball original with superstroke grip
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11 hours ago, jjfcpa said:

So I've been playing the Tour B RX, Vice Pro, and Snell MTB Black.  I'm probably in the slower swing speed arena at 71 years old.  I noted that Gary Player is now endorsing the Oncore Elixir and wondering if this might be a good ball to try since it appears to offer a few extra yards.  Just looking for some extra help interpreting the results that MGS provided to us in the charts.

Two balls that I have not tried yet but am interested to try after seeing results is the Vice Pro and OnCore Elixr.  If you end up giving the Elixr a go, I'd be very interested to see a comparison post on your thoughts. 

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'16 Taylormade M2 9.5*
Ping G Crossover 18*
Ping G Crossover 24*
Taylormade RSI2 6-PW
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Cleveland Zipcore 56*
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Real shame the E12 soft/speed weren’t included. Both have been on my shortlist to take a look at. I’m stuck between the Z star, Vice Pro, and the E12s right now. 

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9 minutes ago, JonMUSC08 said:

@russtopherb Not sure if you saw in the article that if you click both the 115mph and the 85mph filters you will get the average if the 2 for data (100mph). I am in the same boat, 95mph. Doesn't change the data a whole lot but good to know. I also play the Taylormade Project (a) ball since i have like 6 boxes on my shelf as well. I wish that ball was included on the testing. Though I am interested in the Bridgestone Tour BX...

A lot of people have apparently missed or otherwise glossed over that statement. For the balls I've played over the past few years - ProV1, MTB-Black, Vice Pro - the differences in performance are relatively minuscule. This frees me up to play a ball based on feel preferences which would be the Vice Pro. As indicated by the test, I might experience some quality issues with Vice, but personal history indicates that I'm not likely to notice unless there's an issue with the ball's physical appearance.

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Driver: Mizuno ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S
Fairway Wood: Mizuno ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S
Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Nike Vapor Pro Combo (4-PW) Dynamic Gold Pro S300
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 50*, 54*, & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura 6m 33"
Ball: Bridgestone Tour B XS
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Two balls that I have not tried yet but am interested to try after seeing results is the Vice Pro and OnCore Elixr.  If you end up giving the Elixr a go, I'd be very interested to see a comparison post on your thoughts. 


I was a Vice Pro Plus user for two years. I liked the performance and loved the price. This was before the DTC model was really a thing.

Cons for me were it was a low spin ball with shorter clubs and the durability was not great.

I ordered the Elixr after playing a sample sleeve and it will be my ball for this year. I was leaning towards the MTB-X but after reading this data and processing it a bit, the Elixr may be a better ball for me.
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  • PING G 3W HZRDUS Yellow 75g 6.0
  • Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S
  • Maltby TS1 4-G Nippon Modus3 120S
  • Maltby TSW 52 Nippon Modus Wedge
  • Maltby TSW 58 Nippon Modus Wedge
  • Bettinardi BB8 Wide 2020
  • Oncore Elixr

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6 minutes ago, icantbebigwill said:

Real shame the E12 soft/speed weren’t included. Both have been on my shortlist to take a look at. I’m stuck between the Z star, Vice Pro, and the E12s right now. 

 Given that the E12s both use a Surlyn cover, I'd personally opt for the Z-Star or Vice Pro with Urethane covers.

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Driver: Mizuno ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S
Fairway Wood: Mizuno ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S
Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Nike Vapor Pro Combo (4-PW) Dynamic Gold Pro S300
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 50*, 54*, & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura 6m 33"
Ball: Bridgestone Tour B XS
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@TR1PTIK oh exactly. 95% of us will not be able to tell the difference between a few of the top balls. I do notice a difference when i use soft golf balls but changing from a Pro V1 to  a TP5 wont matter to me. Confidence will play a bigger factor.

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  • 3 wood: :taylormade-small:  M4 with 60g Atmos red stiff shaft
  • 4-pw irons: :ping-small:  G710 with stiff KBS shafts (MGS Tester '20)
  • Wedges: 52, 56, 60 :titelist-small: SM5 & SM6
  • Putter: 34" :odyssey-small: 2-ball original with superstroke grip
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So, my brand of choice for the past few years is still coming up trumps. But combining the data on the tables to get closer to my swing speed it looks like I need to play 2 balls, the MTB-X off the tee and the MTB Black everywhere else.

I wonder if Snell can come up with a ball that combines both? 🤔

I need to restock and think I'll get 2 dozen of one and 3 dozen of the other and see what happens.

Thanks to all the staff for all the hard work.

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:755178188_TourEdge: CBX 119 19° hybrid Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0
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The one part of the data that I don't understand is how the carry relates to the ball speed and spin data.  For this example I was looking at both the high and low speed swings.  The TP5X is right up there with ball speed, withing .5mph of the MTBx.  It is also has relatively high launch with low spin.  There are only a couple of balls that spin lower off the driver.  My though would be high ball speed + mid to high launch + lower spin would equal optimal carry.  On the carry chart the TP5X is middle of the pack??? 

My current gamer Qstar Tour had relatively low ball speed, high launch with low spin and performed as well as TP5X.  The MTBX had .5mph more ball speed, launched and spun almost the same as TP5X (.05 lower launch, .3 higher spin) and it carried a little over 5 yards longer.  It seems like they should almost be equal.  

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4 Wood - Callaway Rogue - Project X Evenflow blue 6.0

Hybrids - Titleist 818 H2 -  3(c-1) and 4(c-4) - Tensei CK Blue 70 stiff

Irons - Callaway Apex  CF 16 5-AW - True Temper XP 95 Steel Stiff

Wedges - Ping Glide 54 SS, 58 TS

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After (finally) getting into the report I can now understand why MGS was putting teasers out there for so long.  I think this will be one of the tests that we frequently go back to and remember throughout this entire year and for me, probably the next couple years.  I've always been a huge fan of Taylormade golf balls all the way back to the red/black LDP's, however I tend to get a lot of company logo pro V1 balls for free so I often times I'm using those.  I'm normally in rotation of Pro V1's, Nike Rzn Tour Blacks, and TP5/TP5X.  These are the balls that for some reason or another instill a confidence when I tee them up so I continue to play them.  

I can understand what some are saying about the swing speeds having a large discrepancy, but for me it works well as my driver swing is 113 - 115, although I'm sure I have a different AoA and a fade rather than a draw so it's certainly going to be different.  To be fair the TP5X performed well in the test for the most part and has the height that I look for and the Titleist balls show why they are continually the #1 ball on tour, but from what I am seeing with the Snell MTB X, it seems worthwhile to give them a try at $30!  And maybe next time, our company orders golf balls, I'll suggest the Bridgestone Tour B X.

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3 Wood: :titelist-small: 917F2 Fujikura Pro 84 Tour Spec S

3 Hybrid: :titelist-small: 818 H2 Hybrid Tensei Blue 80 X

Irons 4-PW: :mizuno-small: MP 18 SC Dynamic Gold AMT X

Gap/Sand Wedge:  :titelist-small: Vokey SM6 49*  SM8 54* 

Lob Wedge:  :titelist-small: Vokey SM6 58* Nippon Modus Wedge

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30 minutes ago, mooremikea said:

The one part of the data that I don't understand is how the carry relates to the ball speed and spin data.  For this example I was looking at both the high and low speed swings.  The TP5X is right up there with ball speed, withing .5mph of the MTBx.  It is also has relatively high launch with low spin.  There are only a couple of balls that spin lower off the driver.  My though would be high ball speed + mid to high launch + lower spin would equal optimal carry.  On the carry chart the TP5X is middle of the pack??? 

My current gamer Qstar Tour had relatively low ball speed, high launch with low spin and performed as well as TP5X.  The MTBX had .5mph more ball speed, launched and spun almost the same as TP5X (.05 lower launch, .3 higher spin) and it carried a little over 5 yards longer.  It seems like they should almost be equal.  

Just looking at raw data between MTB-X and TP5X, the data does show carry distance is nearly 12 yards less for the Taylormade while most other data points are similar. at least 3 yards can be explained by ballspeed (171.50 vs. 170.56), but the rest is certainly a bit of a question mark. No doubt these results are averages of multiple shots so the difference could be the result of varying levels of quality between the balls tested???? That is a bit of a puzzle.

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Driver: Mizuno ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S
Fairway Wood: Mizuno ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S
Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Nike Vapor Pro Combo (4-PW) Dynamic Gold Pro S300
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 50*, 54*, & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura 6m 33"
Ball: Bridgestone Tour B XS
Bag: 2017 Titleist Players 5 Stand Bag

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Just now, TR1PTIK said:

Just looking at raw data between MTB-X and TP5X, the data does show carry distance is nearly 12 yards less for the Taylormade while most other data points are similar. at least 3 yards can be explained by ballspeed (171.50 vs. 170.56), but the rest is certainly a bit of a question mark. No doubt these results are averages of multiple shots so the difference could be the result of varying levels of quality between the balls tested???? That is a bit of a puzzle.

I thought the same thing - especially when the irons are actually 4 yards longer.  I've always felt the TP5X was a bit of a longer ball anyways - especially with irons, so this matches up with that.  I don't do any sort of measuring with most drives so it's difficult for me to tell if I'm longer/shorter with the driver, but with irons you clearly know the yardage into a green.

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Driver:  image.png.3c6db1120d888f669e07d4a8f890b3f1.pngMavrik Sub Zero 9* (Set to 10) Ventus Blue 6X

3 Wood: :titelist-small: 917F2 Fujikura Pro 84 Tour Spec S

3 Hybrid: :titelist-small: 818 H2 Hybrid Tensei Blue 80 X

Irons 4-PW: :mizuno-small: MP 18 SC Dynamic Gold AMT X

Gap/Sand Wedge:  :titelist-small: Vokey SM6 49*  SM8 54* 

Lob Wedge:  :titelist-small: Vokey SM6 58* Nippon Modus Wedge

Putter:  image.png.cca2328f4144a299c795aa9b8f3bf677.png Inovai 6.0              :scotty-small: Pro Platinum Newport 2 35"  

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