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Golf Ball Test Results...Pre-Reveal  

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  1. 1. Which brand do you think performs the best in MGS Golf Ball Test to be revealed Monday? (I have no idea what balls are being tested but this is my best bet)

    • Bridgestone (e6, e12, Tour B X, Tour B XS, Tour B RX)
      11
    • Callaway (Chrome Soft, Chrome Soft X, ERC Soft)
      1
    • Cut (Red, Green, Blue, Black, Brown, Mauve, Burgundy, Candy Apple, Cyan, Golden Rod)
      0
    • Maxfli (Tour, Tour x)
      0
    • Mizuno (RB Tour, RB Tour X)
      0
    • Snell (MTB Red, MTB Black, MTB X)
      11
    • Srixon (Q Star, Z Star, Z Star XV, LGBTQ Star)
      4
    • TaylorMade (TP5, TP5x, Project (a), Project (s))
      8
    • Titleist (Pro V1, Pro V1x, AVX, Tour Soft, Velocity, DT TruSoft)
      15
    • Vice (Drive, Pro, Pro Plus, Pro Soft)
      5
    • Volvik (I don't even know if they're in the test)
      0
    • Wilson (DUO Soft, DUO U, FG Tour)
      0
    • Other
      1

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29 minutes ago, Tsecor said:

Silly question but were all the balls 2019 editions? 

Also, what does the 2019 box of Bridgestone Tour BX look like compared to the 2018 edition? I saw Amazon has the BX for $40 but I am unsure if its the new ball or last years model

The 2019 box is on bridgestone’s website

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2 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

The talk around feel is intriguing. Most associate feel with sound and that’s something mgs has touched on in the study and from what I’ve seen in their replies on social media and the blog.

to me feel is what the feedback I get in my hands/arms on contact. Was there any vibrations, does the club feel heavy or light, does the shaft feel too stiff, too weak, somewhere in the middle. 

What most consider feel with the ball I approach it from a sound perspective just as I do with clubs which will obviously change a bit depending on the ball. I play mostly Prov1 or 1x and sprinkle in some tp5 or 5x. The sound between my g400 and my titleist 917 was different. The sound between my pxg, i210, p790 and miuras are all different. Yet the feel when struck right is the same.

feel for me is a combination of the senses minus sight. It’s the hands the arms the shoulders, what did the ball feel like when the club struck it. I’d it feel soft on the hands, did it feel like a rock, did it click like a hard ball, or did it sound soft, or was it something in between. These are what I call the intangibles of the test. Raw data can point you in a direction, but within the category of balls that fit your criteria, the individual has to find the one that feels right. To me it’s just like the clubs you play, anyone can hit any type and brand of club, but you still need to find what you are looking for based on your own needs. I know plus caps that play full blades. I also know other plus caps, that play large GI’s. They fit their needs perfectly and are both very good. The ball should be no different. Find a ball that suits you and your game will be better for it. What we are all looking for is consistency in the ball. Find one you like a stay with it. 

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1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

The 2019 box is on bridgestone’s website

thank you. I know it is, but what does the 2018 box look like? is it different? from what I can tell they are almost identical.

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That would be the best way to do it. Give us lift and drag coefficients at different spin rates. That's the best measure of performance on the aero package of a ball and is a more accurate measure than just hitting balls outdoors when you have no control over the wind velocity.

Are you thinking of a aerodynamic wind tunnel? It's possible but that only tests the exterior design. It would introduce another test flaw in that the ball deforms when coming off the face of the club. I'm sure the manufacturer engineers know if that effect is significant enough to change results. Probably isn't.

This method would be a secondary test vs just one test of hitting the ball. Not ideal.

This is all minutiae and just fun conversation but I'd be interested in a test that eliminates all error.

My gut feeling is the MGS test got a bad batch of Chrome Soft balls.


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5 minutes ago, Tsecor said:

thank you. I know it is, but what does the 2018 box look like? is it different? from what I can tell they are almost identical.

Bridgestone is on two year release cycles so the 2019 ball is the 20-8 ball. If it has b330 in the name it’s the older ball. If it just tour b ... then it’s the latest version 

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Just now, RickyBobby_PR said:

Bridgestone is on two year release cycles so the 2019 ball is the 20-8 ball. If it has b330 in the name it’s the older ball. If it just tour b ... then it’s the latest version 

oh...gotcha......thank you very much......Amazon has these for $40.....not bad...

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55 minutes ago, Tsecor said:

oh...gotcha......thank you very much......Amazon has these for $40.....not bad...

Your welcome. That’s a pretty good deal. 

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2 hours ago, FrogginBullfish said:

That would be the best way to do it. Give us lift and drag coefficients at different spin rates. That's the best measure of performance on the aero package of a ball and is a more accurate measure than just hitting balls outdoors when you have no control over the wind velocity.

 


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I agree.  Either the Callaway's were a flawed batch or the dimple pattern is so flawed it created a drag effect lessening yardage by 18.  As someone stated above, since the tour pros were playing a different ball then I'm guessing their QC is horrible and MGS got bad batches.  I cannot believe their dimple pattern is that bad.

 

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44 minutes ago, pilot25 said:

I agree.  Either the Callaway's were a flawed batch or the dimple pattern is so flawed it created a drag effect lessening yardage by 18.  As someone stated above, since the tour pros were playing a different ball then I'm guessing their QC is horrible and MGS got bad batches.  I cannot believe their dimple pattern is that bad.

 

Or the tour pros don’t play it because it’s too soft. 

Its definitely something that would be interesting to see tested again. 

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I got given a couple of ERC balls by a Callaway rep today. Once I start playing again I'll do some testing comparing them, Chrome Soft and both this years and the previous model Srixon Z Star. It will be interesting to see how things evolve as my swing speed (hopefully) gets back to its normal (pre frozen shoulder) 105 mph driver speed.

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On ‎4‎/‎9‎/‎2019 at 5:03 PM, newballcoach said:

The fire and brimstone from the brand loyalty crew will be insane. Can you imagine if the "holy grail", the Pro V1 ends up being the shortest or least consistent? Titleist truthers will be leaping up from every corner of the internet tweeting at MGS. I would find it funny, I just don't want the staff to have to deal with it.

You mean fire and Bridgestone? haaaaa... 😅

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They should add a true 100 mph robot swing to the test and also test a 5 iron and a hybrid of some sort....

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33 minutes ago, Tsecor said:

They should add a true 100 mph robot swing to the test and also test a 5 iron and a hybrid of some sort....

Why? They talked about the results being linear. So one can draw conclusions based on that.

doing a 100mph would then have those who say I have a 92-95mph ss, what about doing with our speed

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20 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Why? They talked about the results being linear. So one can draw conclusions based on that.

doing a 100mph would then have those who say I have a 92-95mph ss, what about doing with our speed

I think it would help validate the test a bit better. Maybe expand the test and add 90/95/100mph.....see if the results truly were linear. Some of the testing of the CS is really good at slower swing speeds and I think validating the 90-100mph range would give the CS a reprieve 

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It was MGS who said they would be linear but they got that info from one of the manufacturers.

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It was MGS who said they would be linear but they got that info from one of the manufacturers.

I don’t think that the answer came from one manufacturer. Based on info I have seen posted, the MGS team worked with an advisory board to help design the test. My assumption would be that the results showed and through discussion with this board that the results would be linear. The results from the two speeds closely aligned so there is no reason to expect that the trend wouldn’t be the same for speed in between.
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Since I had been gaming the Bridgestone Tour XS this test made me really want to try out the Tour X. In a driver I am a high spin player so even 300-400 rpm drop in spin will really help me out. I did some extensive head to heads over a two day period. Just as in the test the Tour X was longer off the driver by 3 or so yards. Nothing drastic but it was longer. That is just about where the difference between the two was. Playing two balls through every hole at times I had no idea which ball I was playing so it was basically a blind test. They both performed extremely well. Always around the flag, no flyers or any duds. Just reliable repeatable play. This is a ball that is so perfectly suited to my game and gives me the feel I like. From 175 and in the ball plays like it has eyes. Really gives me a straight flight. Isnt overly spinny on full approach shots yet bites on short pitches. Also it feels great off the putter. Not mushy soft but just soft enough that it still gives me good feedback through the hands. I could game either one truthfully and be happy as a clam. When I'm done with either dozen I'm not sure which will stay in the bag. It's that close.

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On 5/4/2019 at 4:19 AM, Thin2win said:

Would I buy Chrome Soft based on this testing? Nope, but that said, they aren't bad balls, I wouldn't scrap them. Depending on your swing speed you are talking 4-9 yards shorter on drives to the average ball in the test. After that they score well with the 7 iron results and the wedges, easily top half in both those tests. And depending on how you want to twist the data potentially better than ProV1 and TP5, so in the scoring areas they are great. 

 

I feel like Callaway should have jumped on that in their press release. I'll play Callaway PR for a moment:

 

The Callaway Chromesoft, more accurate than TP5 and ProV1 from 135 yards in. When scoring matters. 

*source MGS, largest independent golf equipment tester.

 

Instead they went sour grapes, shame. 

 

I appreciate the input. The deciding factor for me was the dispersion data, especially on the drive. Way too many drives wound up in the deep rough, and no one would ever describe my drives as long. The drop in score had a lot to do with more second shots coming from the short grass.

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4 hours ago, Kanoito said:

I just played my first round with the Vice Pro today.

Durability: played 1 ball for 18 holes and no visible signs of tear and wear

Accuracy: hit 10/14 fairways

Distance: similar to my previous gamer

Spin: no backspin, since I rarely take a divot, but with a 7i full swing, ball stopped 1m away from the pitch mark

AAANNNDDD... *drumrolls*

I shot a 79, breaking 80 for the first time in my life.

I've found my new gamer... for now... 

 

 

Congrats on the 79!!!  👏👏👏

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