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So I thread-jacked my own thread, whining about one of the holes on my home course. But that got me thinking this would be a good thread. There aren't many golfers who don't like to complain from time to time about the unfair hand that the golf gods have dealt them, so here's your chance.

What's the hardest hole on your home course? (Note: not looking for "the hardest hole/course you've ever played." Those threads already exist, including this gem of a question from @revkev asking how many "make or break" shots does your course have.) I'm talking about a hole you come back to over and over again. Describe it (preferably, with pictures) in all its gory detail. Try to make us fear it the way that you do.

For those who missed my other thread, I'm nominating the 13th hole at Gogebic Country Club. A modest 350 yard par 4, it has a tiny green (about 40 feet wide, 60 feet deep), a landing area for your tee shot that starts at 40 yards wide (from forest to forest), narrows to 26 yards wide. The entire hole is a gentle left dogleg, so that if you are on the left side of the fairway, you're almost entirely blocked out from the green. But go too far right, and there's a fairway trap on that side.

Also, the green is set up on a plateau with a drop off on the right, so any shots that miss on that side get ejected into the forest.

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All right, it's your turn: what's the hardest hole on your course?

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This would be mine (for me at least). 7th hole of the C course at about 478 yards from the tips (we got 3 x 9 holes).

Distances you see are in meters so add about 10% for yards.

If you can't land your ball in the middle, you'll need about 320 yard carry to clear the bunkers. Not to mention it's a blind tee shot.

This is one of those holes that are not protected by trees, so most of the time you are shooting into the wind.

Assuming you play it smart and lay it up before the bunkers, you still have about 190-200 yards to the green and still into the wind.

The green itself is not too hard to putt, but hitting GIR seems impossible. Of course, you can move up a set or two, but where would the fun be? :lol:

This course has hosted several professional tournaments and I heard this hole was a nightmare even for the pro's. Course record is a 61 by Lee Westwood, beating a Tiger in its prime in 2000.

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I nominate the 125 yard par 3 12th at my home course. 🙂 Before y'all think I have lost my mind, allow me to explain. The green is huuuuge, probably 30 yards deep and 50 yards wide, so any shots (even really bad ones) will probably still hit the green. Now, here's the problem, the green is tilted so much from back to front, EVERY SINGLE shot, PUTTS and all, collect to the very front of the green. You end up having to make a 30 footer, because if you don't, the ball rolls right back to your feet. I can't think of a time where I haven't 3 putted that hole. I don't know what evil monster designed that hole, or if the construction crew read the plans as 10° back to front, instead of 1° back to front, but I HATE that hole. You are always happy to walk off with a 4. 

 

And, whoever made the course handicap, has it rated as the easiest hole. They are wrong. 

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#8 at my home course from the tips. 30’ blind down hill layup shot 220-230 yds with a small creek at the bottom. Approach is 140-155 yds 80’ uphill shot. If you’re lucky and the pin is in the front you can see the top of the flag. IMG_0196.JPG


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Love this thread!

For me without question it is 14 at Lost Creek. This is the number 2 handicap on the course but without question is the hardest hole on the course.

This is in part of the redisgn of the course many years back which converted two holes (par 3 up a hill to a blind green and a really long boring par 5) into this one hole. The change was made for many reasons and part of it was due to golfers hitting balls into the back yards of neighbors, but also because they went from 9 to 18 holes and this layout made a lot more sense.

they took the tee shot from the par 3 and kept that as you will see in the picture below.AEC303CD-CF4E-4263-8DD3-A875BF8B1690.thumb.jpeg.5b9d963c92bd3bed457517476b0f3a8a.jpeg

Not the simplest shot to say the least. Landing area ranges from 150 to 225. Anything farther will run through the fairways and into the woods or a pond. However really you need to get it about 180 else you will still be blocked out by trees. Some could try and cut the corner, but I have rarely seen that play over well as it is very high to get over the trees and a long carry. 

Once safely in the fairway you have a simple 175 to 225 left into the green. Lined with trees on both sides a shot into the front left bunker is actually not the worst spot to be. All along the right is the gravel cart path and OB and green high on the left is a good little valley making for a near impossible up and down. 

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Thee green itself is tough as well with two tiers and some tricky pin locations as well. Add to the fact it is raised a bit which makes running it up to the green a challenge as well. 

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Par on this hole is much like a birder and birdie eagle. As I’ve only ever had one birdie and it was on a chip in. 

If im honest I would love to see the course push the green back another 30 or so yards (which there is a ton of room to do) and make it a par 5. This would make the course a 72 and add a second par 5 to the back 9. Even though they would be back to back. It would also cut down the walk so to speak to 15. With how it stands right now you finish 14 and walk 250 yards down the old hole to the tee box to 15. It would help with the flow of the course and I believe make for a great positional par 5 where driver (depending on player length) much more manageable and enjoyable. 

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It’s not hard at all, but I make it hard. It’s Number 9, a 540 yard par 5. Dead straight, trees on the left close to the fairway, pitted nasty hard pan on the right. If you get over there you are almost certainly going to have an unplayable because your ball will be in a depression.

 

I have posted about it before but it is a round ruiner for me. Should be easy, a driver, 3 iron, and maybe a short iron in. It’s rated as the 5th hardest.

 

Dang thing slopes to the right so you could have a nice drive that actually kicks OB. It’s just a dumb golf hole.

 

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Ok, so here it is. My landing spot is the most sloped to the right. So a drive that lands in the spot in the first picture ends up where the second picture shows.
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My plan for the first round is the “Shankster” route. Big old slice through the little gap in the trees.
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4th hole at mine which is 'only' 430yds long, but it's uphill all the way and usually into a breeze.

Drives stop where they land then it's an uphill lie with a 3 wood. Apart from in warm summer conditions there is hardly anyone in the club who can reach in two.

 

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What I think is funny, the course I play every week, the hardest hole based on handicap for me is a long (400 yd) hard sloping right fairway into a  two tier green par 4, that I can usually par or bogey at worst. However there is a shorter (338 yd) uphill par 4 that is one of the easier holes based on handicapping that I have never once par'd. I dont understand how some of the easiet holes can be such a nemesis to people. 

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#15 a 540 yard par-5. It's a downhill tee shot, dogleg right and the rest of the hole sits in a valley. It's the lowest spot on the course, so that usually equals wettest too. There are deep woods down the entire left side to about 120 short of the green, and a creek and woods all the way down the right. You can hit driver, but it either needs to be a perfect fade or a big draw over the creek...btw its blind to the driver landing zone. I hit a hybrid with a baby fade. The second shot is through a narrow window, and your probably still 250+ out. If your hitting anything more than a 6-iron it better be dead straight. The third shot is open and should only be mid or short iron. The green also sits in a 3/4 bowl so short is the best miss. Just the green is severely pitched back to front so don't be above the pin.

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2nd hole at my club measures 460 from blues and 434 from whites it plays slightly downhill if you can hit it far enough to get over the hill. The hard comes from the approach, the green is only 13 yards with 7 foot drop off left right and long. Deep bunkers on right and left and if you are long par is almost impossible. Most people are hitting long iron or FW on the approach. I average 4.5 on it and generally have 8-W in. 😱

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Fairway slopes toward the tee and hard right to left. In the summer anything left center rolls into the rough or worse the tree line. Green is small, fast and severe slopes. Oh and from the back tees the green is 122 feet above the tee box.


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#16 at my home course is a par 3 that from the tips plays from 210 to 240. Its downhill so plays a little less. It is brutal I often play it as a par 4 because I don't have a club that can truly reach the green other then my 3 wood but any time I've tried to play it runs through. Another brutal part that's not the holes fault but the green is always covered in leaves or some type of debris because it sits so close to the woods.

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On 4/5/2019 at 3:43 PM, Kanoito said:

This would be mine (for me at least). 7th hole of the C course at about 478 yards from the tips (we got 3 x 9 holes).

Distances you see are in meters so add about 10% for yards.

If you can't land your ball in the middle, you'll need about 320 yard carry to clear the bunkers. Not to mention it's a blind tee shot.

This is one of those holes that are not protected by trees, so most of the time you are shooting into the wind.

Assuming you play it smart and lay it up before the bunkers, you still have about 190-200 yards to the green and still into the wind.

The green itself is not too hard to putt, but hitting GIR seems impossible. Of course, you can move up a set or two, but where would the fun be? :lol:

This course has hosted several professional tournaments and I heard this hole was a nightmare even for the pro's. Course record is a 61 by Lee Westwood, beating a Tiger in its prime in 2000.

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Oof! I remember this one. For those keeping track at home, we played the tips for the experience just to punish ourselves. Maybe it's more manageable from the other tees, but that was easily a Par 4.5. My hunch is that hole is hard from any tee. 

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Great thread MPR, I had thoughts of starting a similar one. 

I no longer consider this my home course but this hole came to mind. #16 at Breton Bay is a true test of your game. Until you survive this one, no good round is secure. I always seem to play this hole decently when I've got a sideways round going but would happily take a bogey any day. 

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The tees are all bunched up to start. A strong poke with a longer club is required to reach the tiny target area (yellow circle). Driver is too much for even shorter hitters when the fairway gets hard and fast in the summer heat. After the line, a hill steeply falls off into the lake or woods to the right. That's one of those cart path hills that forces the autostop on the cart to engage. 

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If you happen to find the approachable area, it's a long poke to an elevated green over water. The slopes to the right of the green feed sharply into the woods. Finishing in the bunker is a great result. 

The green itself is long front-to-back but narrow left-to-right with a hefty slope back-to-front. End up on the wrong part of the green? Hello three putt. 

This is the rare hole where a 35 yard pitch from the fairway is sometimes needed to give you a chance at getting across the chasm. I hate the tee shot, hate the second shot, and hate everything around the green. 

All said, this hole is fairly designed so there's nothing I'd change about it. It's just plain HARD. 

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Avalon Golf Links, 70 miles north of Seattle. 

North course #7. 383y from the member tees. 

Nothing about that number is scary, but the hole is the hardest sub 400y par 4 I've ever played. From the tees, all you see is trees. The fairway is a slight dogleg left, but ridiculously narrow. And it is tree lined on both sides. There is a small creek that crosses the fairway about 280 from the tees, so it doesn't really come into play.... But you know it is there. 

 

There is also a single 50' fir tree in the left center of the fairway 120y's from the flag. Due to the dogleg, and that tree the landing area for a drive is tiny. You need a straight to sight draw shot that goes at least 240y's so you can get around the aforementioned tree, but need to be short of 270 or else risk finding the creek. Anything left is either into a tree stand leaving a punch out and a 3rd shot of 150+, or is completely blocked by that tree. Anything right is in another tree stand, and further right brings the creek into play. The landing area that gives a 2nd shot to the flag from the fairway, is only 7y wide. Hitting a 7y wide target at ~250y's isn't the strength of my game... Or anyone else that I have ever played that hole with.

 

The tee shot: target is basically the little tree in the middle. 20190505_151351.thumb.jpg.25031d8a5385c0c2c0b3e00a33c62318.jpg

 

The second shot: assuming you don't have to hit around the tree on the left. Even from the middle of the fairway, notice the flag is still behind trees. 20190505_152232.thumb.jpg.f5cabccdb523ca0dea34d5c2525f2c9e.jpg 

Best overhead I have of the hole. Screenshot_20190527-203914_Maps.thumb.jpg.c9d93b296dd7853b4d9af43beea4fe0a.jpg

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Hole #4 is a par-3 at Boise Ranch and is only listed as a 14 HCP, but it remains my current nemesis and therefore my hardest hole to contend with and share with you all. It usually plays around 150-160 yards from a slightly elevated tee box to a moderately-sized green. Trouble is that from the down slope of the tee boxes all the way out to around 130-yds is a freaking pond lined with boulders in front of the green. I'll get a pic of it next time I play, but for some damn reason it simply does not fit my eye and I've been in the water every time for the past 4-rounds and usually wind up posting a 6...😡 It's all in my head I know, but that hole has my freakin' number right now...

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Here's my contribution, #12 at Stoneleigh Golf Club, Round Hill, VA.

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About 390 yards from the normal men's tee, 425 from the back.  The drive is uphill, about 30 feet based on Google Earth elevations, between a hazard left and OB right.  That brown line just inside the cart path is a small (3 to 4 foot high) dry-laid stone wall.  The drive shown is a little over 230 yards, pretty long for me, and my typical driver on level ground is 250 or so.  For longer hitters, the fairway narrows significantly.  Once you're there, you have 160 left, about 40 feet further uphill, and into the prevailing wind, so it plays 185 to 200 yards.  Still hazard on the left, and a big overhanging tree on the right, and another rock wall, this one close to 10 feet high at the bend.  The front of the green is a steep bank, balls almost to the top will roll back.  The green slopes back to front, so putts in that direction have been known to roll off the green.  And we call it fun....sometimes.

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This hole was recently voted the hole anyone who plays here would most like to blow up and have redesigned.  Out of 36 holes (2 courses) it wasn't even close.

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Hole 12 SouthWest 

Par 5  No. 2 Handicap 

Black Tees 568 yards Blue Tees 549 White Tees 506 Gold Tees 447 Red Tees 350

The tee shot from Black, Blue, Gold must carry a ravine to reach the fairway.   From the Whites, it's a 210 yard carry over that left fairway bunker, to insure you are close enough to the second ravine to carry it on your second shot.   If you miss anything too far right to that bunker you are left with a 198 yard carry through a narrow opening.  Anything in the bunker or left of it and you don't have an angle to carry the ravine, and are forced to layup short of it. 

Once you clear the ravine, through the narrow gap of trees you will be left with anywhere from 120 yards or less to an uphill approach that is guarded by two green side bunkers fronting the green.  

The green itself is narrow on the left, making a back left pin a very precise and delicate shot.   The most approachable pin is back right.  Anything middle or front sits at the bottom of a slope and shots above the hole are likely to leave at least a 10 footer coming back up the slope.

Durinig league play there is a double par max per hole rule in effect to help pace of play.   I've seen many 10's on the card for this hole, some of them may or may not have been next to my name 🙂

So for the record, the ideal way to play this hole from the Whties:

Tee Shot: A draw of 230 yards that  works around that bunker, or a high fade straight over the bunker that lands 20 yards or so short of the end of the fairway.

2nd Shot: 175 yard club over the hazard to the fatest part of the 2nd fairway.

Approach: 75 yard wedge shot to anywhere on the green, take your two putts and run like you've stolen something, because you just stole a par. 

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This hole was recently voted the hole anyone who plays here would most like to blow up and have redesigned.  Out of 36 holes (2 courses) it wasn't even close.

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Hole 12 SouthWest 

Par 5  No. 2 Handicap 

Black Tees 568 yards Blue Tees 549 White Tees 506 Gold Tees 447 Red Tees 350

The tee shot from Black, Blue, Gold must carry a ravine to reach the fairway.   From the Whites, it's a 210 yard carry over that left fairway bunker, to insure you are close enough to the second ravine to carry it on your second shot.   If you miss anything too far right to that bunker you are left with a 198 yard carry through a narrow opening.  Anything in the bunker or left of it and you don't have an angle to carry the ravine, and are forced to layup short of it. 

Once you clear the ravine, through the narrow gap of trees you will be left with anywhere from 120 yards or less to an uphill approach that is guarded by two green side bunkers fronting the green.  

The green itself is narrow on the left, making a back left pin a very precise and delicate shot.   The most approachable pin is back right.  Anything middle or front sits at the bottom of a slope and shots above the hole are likely to leave at least a 10 footer coming back up the slope.

Durinig league play there is a double par max per hole rule in effect to help pace of play.   I've seen many 10's on the card for this hole, some of them may or may not have been next to my name 🙂

So for the record, the ideal way to play this hole from the Whties:

Tee Shot: A draw of 230 yards that  works around that bunker, or a high fade straight over the bunker that lands 20 yards or so short of the end of the fairway.

2nd Shot: 175 yard club over the hazard to the fatest part of the 2nd fairway.

Approach: 75 yard wedge shot to anywhere on the green, take your two putts and run like you've stolen something, because you just stole a par. 

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Any hole that takes driver off the table due to a fairway that ends and then leaves you with more yardage into the green than you were allowed to hit off the tee, should absolutely be blown up.

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