SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted February 4, 2011 SPY VIP Share Posted February 4, 2011 Callaway is saying that there is a flaw with the new white R11 drivers by Taylormade. They are saying that the shaft often times causes a shadow to be seen on the head. Here is a picture as an example: YOUR THOUGHTS Legitimate claim or reaching? #TruthDigest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfmanufaktur Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Well - you can for sure see a black shadow on a white driver, that you can't see on a black driverhead. But is that really a flaw? Sounds like Callaway is afraid of all the buzz the white driver is getting. Maybe, the story of "forged composite" is not interesting enough for the press? Regards, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoNDoN Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Reaching. I think that Callaway's current products have absolutely no buzz behind them and they have nothing left but to find fault. I am not a Taylor Made fan and have always loved Callaway products but after the response from PGA Show I am wondering what direction Callaway is going to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZForce Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Somewhere in the middle? It could be annoying, but golfers have had to deal with their own shadows forever. Unless every hole is going the same direction, you wouldn't expect to have to deal with it more than a time or two a around. That being said, it also wasn't an issue before the white driver. "Flaw" is probably a strong word though. Then again, not sure what you'd call it. In case you can't tell, I'm on the fence here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miboy62 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 If you put clock numbers on the R11 head you would have a sun dial . Now the price just went up another $100.00. ZX5 MKII LS 8.5 Stealth 2 plus 3 wood Stealth 2 plus 5 wood Stealth 2 plus 19.5 Hybrid ZX5 MKll 5 / AW Dart stiff MG3 black 52 9b 58 12b 7.5 Phantom 34” Z Star Diamond 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Maybe not a flaw but a draw back to a white color. I have painted several of my woods white and it allows you to follow the club head better at the impact area vs. a dark color. Just my $.02 but I think they (Callaway) are fishing for something new themselves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moecat Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 If you put clock numbers on the R11 head you would have a sun dial . Now the price just went up another $100.00. Good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamo Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I don't see how that really matters at all. It seems like Callaway is just getting snippy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manavs Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Really? this is getting ridiculous. my nostradamus senses are telling me 2 things: 1 - be ready for a white face with black matted non glared head 2 - a callaway white driver in the foreseeable future - (remember this shadow claim when it comes out!) Staffer Staffer www.MANAVIANGolf.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saternus Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Did Callaway do a press release to "expose" this or did they put it out through some other means? Regardless, it's pretty pathetic. Yes, the shadow is probably going to annoy some people, but when I read "flaw" I expected something like "the ASP plate will fly off after 10 swings." Callaway should focus on their own ish, like trying to explain what the difference is between the Octane and the Razr Hawk drivers. Both are forged composite...what else am I getting for that extra $100? Follow me on Twitter: @MattSaternus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putterplating Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 If you put clock numbers on the R11 head you would have a sun dial . Now the price just went up another $100.00. You must work for TM. This was the next model's upgrade. http://www.putterplating.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/27785952@N03/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putterplating Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 How can a shadow be a flaw? I can see a shadow on both. The real flaw is how closed that Cally driver is. http://www.putterplating.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/27785952@N03/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xamilo Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Did Callaway do a press release to "expose" this or did they put it out through some other means? Regardless, it's pretty pathetic. Yes, the shadow is probably going to annoy some people, but when I read "flaw" I expected something like "the ASP plate will fly off after 10 swings." Callaway should focus on their own ish, like trying to explain what the difference is between the Octane and the Razr Hawk drivers. Both are forged composite...what else am I getting for that extra $100? Agreed completely. I was expecting the news to be the shaft broke if you miss hit it back or something, but not something about the shadow, and even worst, Callaway being the ones to expose the "flaw". I see a bigger flaw in making every driver exactly the same for the last five years, or as you mention, making two exact same drivers with no difference after all between each other. Each day we are having more and more news about Callaway, and unfortunately, I haven't seen one positive one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finalist Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I don't like either company, but the shadow on white would probably bug me. I spy with my little eye something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowballhitter Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Wow - how petty. I guess if you can't build a better product you slam their product. I could see the same issue with a Two Ball putter as well...haha. I'm surprised Callaway didn't sue TM because Ely once had a dream that was all in white back in his days on the vineyard. What a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWShoot67 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I think Callaway just screwed up on that one..... like others have pointed out TM's marketing Team will now be able to tell the proud owners of the R11 that for an extra fee they will add the clock numbers on top so you will know about when the wife will start calling telling you to get home and cut the grass! The Bag: Right handed Cobra King FLYZ+ 10.5* w/ Aldila Rogue 125 R 44.5" Tour Issued TM M2 10.5 w/ Mitsubishi Tensi CK Pro Blue 60S Tour Issued TM M2 15* w/ GD Tour AD 7S 43" TM R7 17.5 HFS w/ Tour AD 7S Stiff 42" Cobra S3 Pro's 4-pw w/ Aldila RIP Tours SLT 115 Reg. 5i 38.5" Titleist Vokey Proto's 52*,54*,58* all TTDG S-400 TM TP5 X Scotty Cameron SSS Tiffany 009 350 34.5" or Bettinardi BB1 DASS Proto GHIN # 5144472 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves81 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Agreed ,this sounds petty to me as well.Callaway hasnt made anything that has caught my eye for quite a while.These kinds of ads turn me off as a customer. Callaway razr x tour 5-pw titleist 585h 24 &21 hybrid Heavy wedge 52 gap wedge Nike sv sand and lob wedge Callaway Diablo Octane tour Driver Adams F 11 3 wood Seemore ci2 or Bettinardi studio stock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowjow Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Callaway are jealous of the idea, simple as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP Tony Covey MGS Posted February 5, 2011 SPY VIP Share Posted February 5, 2011 The real flaw is how closed that Cally driver is. Probably just the angle of the photo. Specs say that driver is neutral. MyGolfSpy is only major golf site that refuses advertising from large golf companies. With your support we can keep it that way. Donate Today Follow @GolfSpyT Subscribe to the MyGolfSpy Newsletter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHacker Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I seriously doubt a white driver makes any difference in performance. I like the clubhead to appear compact, and painting the head white certainly doesn't help. Not that Callaway driver is any better. I'm still very happy with my driver. Nothing technologically special about it. It's design is plain, and rather boring by today's standards. But it helps ms avoid the left side of the fairway, send the ball plenty far. That's all I'm willing to pay for in a driver. Now in my bag: TM SLDR 10.5 Deg with Matrix Ozik 6Q3 S flex TM VSteel 15 deg 3 wood Cleveland Launcher Hybrid 18 deg Diamana Red Board Stiff Titleist ZB Forged Iron 3-PW DG S200 Steel Shaft Cleveland CG15 46, 52, 56, 60 Wedges Scotty Cameron California Del Mar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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