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Callaway is saying that there is a flaw with the new white R11 drivers by Taylormade. They are saying that the shaft often times causes a shadow to be seen on the head. Here is a picture as an example:

 

 

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Well - you can for sure see a black shadow on a white driver, that you can't see on a black driverhead. But is that really a flaw?

 

Sounds like Callaway is afraid of all the buzz the white driver is getting. Maybe, the story of "forged composite" is not interesting enough for the press?

 

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Reaching.

 

I think that Callaway's current products have absolutely no buzz behind them and they have nothing left but to find fault. I am not a Taylor Made fan and have always loved Callaway products but after the response from PGA Show I am wondering what direction Callaway is going to go.

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Somewhere in the middle? It could be annoying, but golfers have had to deal with their own shadows forever. Unless every hole is going the same direction, you wouldn't expect to have to deal with it more than a time or two a around. That being said, it also wasn't an issue before the white driver. "Flaw" is probably a strong word though. Then again, not sure what you'd call it. In case you can't tell, I'm on the fence here! :D

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If you put clock numbers on the R11 head you would have a sun dial :D . Now the price just went up another $100.00.

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Maybe not a flaw but a draw back to a white color. I have painted several of my woods white and it allows you to follow the club head better at the impact area vs. a dark color. Just my $.02 but I think they (Callaway) are fishing for something new themselves!

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Did Callaway do a press release to "expose" this or did they put it out through some other means? Regardless, it's pretty pathetic. Yes, the shadow is probably going to annoy some people, but when I read "flaw" I expected something like "the ASP plate will fly off after 10 swings." Callaway should focus on their own ish, like trying to explain what the difference is between the Octane and the Razr Hawk drivers. Both are forged composite...what else am I getting for that extra $100?

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Did Callaway do a press release to "expose" this or did they put it out through some other means? Regardless, it's pretty pathetic. Yes, the shadow is probably going to annoy some people, but when I read "flaw" I expected something like "the ASP plate will fly off after 10 swings." Callaway should focus on their own ish, like trying to explain what the difference is between the Octane and the Razr Hawk drivers. Both are forged composite...what else am I getting for that extra $100?

 

Agreed completely. I was expecting the news to be the shaft broke if you miss hit it back or something, but not something about the shadow, and even worst, Callaway being the ones to expose the "flaw". I see a bigger flaw in making every driver exactly the same for the last five years, or as you mention, making two exact same drivers with no difference after all between each other.

 

Each day we are having more and more news about Callaway, and unfortunately, I haven't seen one positive one....

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Wow - how petty. I guess if you can't build a better product you slam their product. I could see the same issue with a Two Ball putter as well...haha. I'm surprised Callaway didn't sue TM because Ely once had a dream that was all in white back in his days on the vineyard. What a joke

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I think Callaway just screwed up on that one..... like others have pointed out TM's marketing Team will now be able to tell the proud owners of the R11 that for an extra fee they will add the clock numbers on top so you will know about when the wife will start calling telling you to get home and cut the grass! :D

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Agreed ,this sounds petty to me as well.Callaway hasnt made anything that has caught my eye for quite a while.These kinds of ads turn me off as a customer.

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The real flaw is how closed that Cally driver is.

 

 

Probably just the angle of the photo. Specs say that driver is neutral.

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I seriously doubt a white driver makes any difference in performance. I like the clubhead to appear compact, and painting the head white certainly doesn't help.

 

Not that Callaway driver is any better. I'm still very happy with my driver. Nothing technologically special about it. It's design is plain, and rather boring by today's standards. But it helps ms avoid the left side of the fairway, send the ball plenty far. That's all I'm willing to pay for in a driver.

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Just want to point out that the r11 is not just a black n white cookie, the paint on the crown is matted for anti glare. At their monster booth they had bright lights shining on the competitors driver heads for comparison, and since the r11 does not have a shiney coating finish it stood out.

 

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hahaha.. soon you will see people commenting about Pink Drivers, Orange Drivers, Blue Drivers, yellow drivers...

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Oh Callaway execs, will you please "get a life!". In fact, will some of you do the decent thing and say byebye to the golf trade, you've expired yourselves, but then, you wouldn't get such generous, rewarding bonuses for "mediocrity" in other trades!! Your waving a white flag!!

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Oh Callaway execs, will you please "get a life!". In fact, will some of you do the decent thing and say byebye to the golf trade, you've expired yourselves, but then, you wouldn't get such generous, rewarding bonuses for "mediocrity" in other trades!! Your waving a white flag!!

 

 

That about sums it up for me. They won't compare their "forged composite" crowns to others like Nike's on the SuMo 5000 (or their own from previous models), but they'll sure compare it to titanium... that sounds like a swipe at both TMaG and Titleist to me. Their execs gave themselves bonuses for poor performance and now we have this petty excuse of a flaw. Titleist is releasing the new/old ProV1/V1x that they couldn't release in 2009, thanks to Callaway's eventually wasted lawsuit. They also are going to (hopefully) have their hands full with the lawsuit over the "octane" name. The end seems near...

 

This is just me thinking out loud, but if Callaway does happen to go down (or is bought by Dick's) could the Ben Hogan brand be revived?

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Some of you seem a bit bent out of shape over this. Remember business is business. TM has made a market buzz with the white heads. All of the other manufacturers have to answer the "why don't you make a white driver?" question now. It is all marketing to make money for the company. Think about it like the pre-fight weigh in. No fighter goes in saying "yeah, I expect him to kick my ass". You believe in yourself an swing the leather. If you are on the canvas later, so be it, but you fought. This is what I see Callaway doing and it is what they should be doing.

 

The real downside of this is that now I sort of see the shaft shadow on the head (black) of my PING driver.

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Now it's the matter of who agrees and who starts agreeing. Didn't really bother much of our crew but now that someone mentioned it, it's probably gonna start bugging me.

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I guess it is the old psych thing like asking an opponent if he breaths in or out or holds his breath during a golf shot. I dont know if it is a defect or not but it looked like "Two Gloves" was knocking the crap out of his all last week maybe hit it too far on 17 in the last round. I know he is an Adams man but his driver shure looked like one of those white Taylors to me.

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Come on Callaway, you can do better than that. How about spending some more money on R&D, and don't give me bullshit like the forged composite is going to give me 20 more yards. Build a better driver. One that can be adjusted in various ways. What the avid golfer is looking for is to be able to 'tune' their clubs like the pros get done for them. Go with that premise and you will sell more drivers.

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