formerstormer Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Come to think of it, who was first with a white driver?? Was it Cobra? Poulter was using the first one last November in Hong Kong I think? Thoughts please! Good weekend for Callaway with a staff player winning in Dubai, hole in one as well!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmmy Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Now I see it as a good thing if you put a wee flag on the shaft, you will see the wind direction when setting up for the drive,saves tossing grass into the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRO_STIX Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Come on Callaway, you can do better than that. How about spending some more money on R&D, and don't give me bullshit like the forged composite is going to give me 20 more yards. Build a better driver. One that can be adjusted in various ways. What the avid golfer is looking for is to be able to 'tune' their clubs like the pros get done for them. Go with that premise and you will sell more drivers. you sir bring up a much more important unrelated topic. it is my opinion as a clubfitter that "avid" golfers are way up tehir ass with numbers launch monitos and clubhead settings. the simple truth is that most tour pros neither have much of a clue whats in their bag nor care to know. sure you have some die hards jerking themselves going through a case of grips to match gram weight to 1/2 g but other than that----- if you take fct/mwt for instance on 1 hand tm will shove down your throat that all these adjustments will create certain very wide dispersions in ball flight.what they neglect to mention is that the golfer needs to be talented and practiced enough to repeat a pinhead hit everytime to get these results.the fact is mwt is a farce and it really takes about 10% movement in clubhead mass(@20g in driver) to really have any affect in center of gravity. this means that changing 4g to 8g is doing absolutely nothing other than painting your ego.even with an after market tungsten weight such as 25-30g are you good enough to repeat that pinhead hit to avail the change in cog. this is not to mention on the other side of their fence they will tell you that the driver is sooooo forgiving that you can hit it off the toe and still reap 80-90% off an on center hit which in comparison to a persimmon driver is definately the case because a toe hit on a 460 would = strike 1 on a persimmon. mwt is a nice swingweighting feature and much greater marketing ploy,which hay thats cool too. a similar anal - ogy (ha) would hold true for my opinion on fct cheers willy pro_stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRO_STIX Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 you sir bring up a much more important unrelated topic. it is my opinion as a clubfitter that "avid" golfers are way up tehir ass with numbers launch monitos and clubhead settings. the simple truth is that most tour pros neither have much of a clue whats in their bag nor care to know. sure you have some die hards jerking themselves going through a case of grips to match gram weight to 1/2 g but other than that----- if you take fct/mwt for instance on 1 hand tm will shove down your throat that all these adjustments will create certain very wide dispersions in ball flight.what they neglect to mention is that the golfer needs to be talented and practiced enough to repeat a pinhead hit everytime to get these results.the fact is mwt is a farce and it really takes about 10% movement in clubhead mass(@20g in driver) to really have any affect in center of gravity. this means that changing 4g to 8g is doing absolutely nothing other than painting your ego.even with an after market tungsten weight such as 25-30g are you good enough to repeat that pinhead hit to avail the change in cog. this is not to mention on the other side of their fence they will tell you that the driver is sooooo forgiving that you can hit it off the toe and still reap 80-90% off an on center hit which in comparison to a persimmon driver is definately the case because a toe hit on a 460 would = strike 1 on a persimmon. mwt is a nice swingweighting feature and much greater marketing ploy,which hay thats cool too. a similar anal - ogy (ha) would hold true for my opinion on fct cheers willy pro_stix speaking of white did anyone notice the white garments (called ice cream suits in the 70S) in the top sponsors of the day ad on the right? my old man fell off a ladder in a similar outfit attempting to gain access to a 2nd story window during a bender after finding out mother had put the house in lock down because of his tardiness to family dinner. needless to say he was lucky enough to fall in a rain soaked ditch of mud instead of the driveway which except for the spiffy what was white suit worked out well for him-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRO_STIX Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 speaking of white did anyone notice the white garments (called ice cream suits in the 70S) in the top sponsors of the day ad on the right? my old man fell off a ladder in a similar outfit attempting to gain access to a 2nd story window during a bender after finding out mother had put the house in lock down because of his tardiness to family dinner. needless to say he was lucky enough to fall in a rain soaked ditch of mud instead of the driveway which except for the spiffy what was white suit worked out well for him-- matter fact looking closer at the mens usa ad for the white ghetto suit there could be a similar case made in which the blonde in the blue dress (next to him) left boob seems to be casting a shadow - should be grounds for a design flaw in the suit ok enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKid Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 This is just me thinking out loud, but if Callaway does happen to go down (or is bought by Dick's) could the Ben Hogan brand be revived? This really caught my eye, and I agree it would be a welcome thing. I remember their BS line about reviving the line in 2008, then 2009, then 2010, then...it's dead. Still they have no problem using words like "Hawk" and "Apex" either in there advertising or directly on their products. It feels like the Hogan brand is being held hostage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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