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G410 irons AWT 2 vs DG 105?

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If anyone else has hit or been fitted for Ping's G410's, I'm wondering which shaft you ended up selecting.  I like the feel of the AWT 2 stiff, but numbers are slightly better for AWT 2 regular..., but man does that regular feel super whippy.  I don't like it at all.  Fitter suggested the middle ground might be the DG 105, but that shaft was being used by another fitter.  I've got to go back to try it.

Has anyone every hit the DG105?  Ping's website says it's Mid-High launch shaft at 97g, while True Temper's site says it's Mid-Low and 103g.  Not sure of the discrepancy there.  Anyway, it's all speculation until I can try it.  My 7 iron SS is in the 71-74 mph range.  I want a lighter shaft, but regular flex always feels so flimsy to me, so maybe the DG 105 might be the answer?  Thanks for any input.  Jon

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I actually had the DG 105 in my old Adams idea Pro irons as I was transitioning from steel to graphite - they were a nice shaft - I’d characterize them is medium high launch but all of that is subjective.

A 7 iron swing speed in the 71-74 range would indicate an R flex shaft - mine’s in the high 70’s and I’m in R flex. Plus the results beat that out.

Could the “whipy” feel be in your head? I’d be reluctant to go away from a fitting result that was a good fitting.

I hope that helps


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On 4/19/2019 at 11:22 AM, Toro3150 said:

If anyone else has hit or been fitted for Ping's G410's, I'm wondering which shaft you ended up selecting.  I like the feel of the AWT 2 stiff, but numbers are slightly better for AWT 2 regular..., but man does that regular feel super whippy.  I don't like it at all.  Fitter suggested the middle ground might be the DG 105, but that shaft was being used by another fitter.  I've got to go back to try it.

Has anyone every hit the DG105?  Ping's website says it's Mid-High launch shaft at 97g, while True Temper's site says it's Mid-Low and 103g.  Not sure of the discrepancy there.  Anyway, it's all speculation until I can try it.  My 7 iron SS is in the 71-74 mph range.  I want a lighter shaft, but regular flex always feels so flimsy to me, so maybe the DG 105 might be the answer?  Thanks for any input.  Jon

Last year I was fitted for irons and it was the G400's with the Project X 5.5 LZ that won the day.  Not really seeing the shift in performance that moved me away from my PE2's, and being early in my search, I decided to continue looking.

Having hit the G410's this past winter, I was just fitted again last week.  We started with the PX but then moved to the AWT 2.0 stiff.  That resulted in improved numbers and a slightly better feel IMO.  I see lots of comments about PING's AWT 2.0 shafts and how they are largely underrated.  They are made by Nippon for PING.  They have an "ascending weight" design which changes launch characteristics from long to short irons.  Shaft weight increases as you progress from long to short clubs.  Virtually everything I've read about them is positive - even a little raving.  These will be the shafts on my set of G410's.

Here's a chart from PING comparing shafts.  I'm not sure which DG is represented, but it suggests they are stiffer and heavier than AWT's.  My fast and compact swing is what moves me into the stiff flex on AWT's.  In DG, a regular might work - but I never tested those.

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